DHL Out on Dec 10th?

[coldworld]

Originally Posted by upssalesguy

our air rates start 5-8% lower than fedex for busienss customers.


The confusing part for customers is becasue we have two rates at UPS, the retail rate and the daily rate. It is the daily rate that is lower and as a customer, you get those base rates if you have a daily pickup or average $50 per week - edit - for four weeks

as a daily pickup, you also get Worldship software - i huge advantage over fedex. you can do small package, hundredweight, international (paperless commercial invoices) LTL, and heavy air freight all one one piece of software.

Dhl is still out delivering and some customers are really going to wait until the new year to switch over. Ups is now after all of the fededx volume, they are going after it ALL. After the economy starts to pick up and there is no dhl to take a cut of volume ups is going to be on a hiring spree, especially with the folks hired in the late 70's and early 80's leaving its going to be caught not prepared, maybe not in 2009, but you all wait and see...especially in feeder.

[cheddar]

So, has anyone seen former DHL employees being hired by UPS?
After 11 years as a driver for a DHL/Airborne Express subcontractor, I lost my job in November. I am now doing the driver helper thing with the intention of getting my foot in the door with UPS. I've been with the same driver for 6 days now (3 to 5.5 hours per day) and he said hours will increase this week and he's keeping me on through the peak. So, I guess I'm doing something right. 60% more stops per day and a much faster pace than what I was used to is leaving me very sore, but I'll get through it and am actually enjoying the challenge!
After christmas, I plan to get a dock job if at all possible to stay with the company and start the climb upwards.
Do you guys think my prior experience will move me out of the sort and onto the road any faster than the inexperienced college kids that are usually hired for package handling jobs? (the station is very close to a large university)
I'm just wondering if UPS welcomes the experience or hesitates with former DHL drivers....

cheddar (in Arizona)

[trplnkl]

Originally Posted by cheddar

Do you guys think my prior experience will move me out of the sort and onto the road any faster than the inexperienced college kids that are usually hired for package handling jobs? (the station is very close to a large university)
I'm just wondering if UPS welcomes the experience or hesitates with former DHL drivers....

cheddar (in Arizona)

I don't see how you prior experience will help you much. One reason for the doubt is the seniority structure of UPS/Teamsters. Another is that while UPS may like that you have delivered parcels before, the methods and details of UPS are much different that DHL, UPS will have to re-train you same as a complete newbie. I'm not trying to discourage you but I wouldn't put alot of stock on the previous work being a factor. Good luck to you.

[daedalus]

As long as you provide good service and are a hard, loyal worker I don't think that the DHL previous hurts you at all.

[UpstateNYUPSer]

Originally Posted by daedalus

As long as you provide good service and are a hard, loyal worker I don't think that the DHL previous hurts you at all.

The expectations of a DHL driver pale in comparison to those of a UPS driver, whether it be service, attitude or appearance. While prior experience can never hurt, any new hires who had previously driven for DHL will have to be "re-trained" in the methods used by UPS. Also, as the DHL helper mentioned above, the workload is much more than what they were used to and production standards are much higher. This is not to say that they could not make the transition but, as trp said, they would have to go through the seniority process just like anyone else.

[trplnkl]

I've read on here several times about the appearance of DHL employees being substandard. I didn't see that locally, except that I hated the color scheme the DHL drivers all were neat and clean and professional in appearance.

[upssalesguy]

we hired some DHL sales people to help convert that volume. I know there are some drivers here doing the same thing....some DHL drivers were great, others not so much. some got hired (by DHL) without any traning according to the DHL rep. he said if they didnt get arrested adn showed up for work, they had a route that day.

the funniest thing is when I was walking around the centers introducing him to drivers adn he watched me give a PCM. he was floored. I asked him if they did PCM's and he said no, they would go out to the parking lot and get them all to stop smoking long enough to give them their delivery logs for the day.

he didnt say what they were smoking....