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01-18-2009, 11:06 AM
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#51 | | Senior Member
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Rep Power: 8296 | Re: Safety Compliance. funny Heff, but they would still say you should of kept your eyes ahead of your work!! or better yet,,look sharp ,don't get cut!! lol
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01-18-2009, 01:23 PM
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#52 | | LOADED FOR BEAR
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Rep Power: 11397 | Re: Safety Compliance. Quote:
Originally Posted by chev Well, I'm just glad Steve does not call himself "Steve the UPS dude"
I refuse to call him stud.
As far a safety compliance goes; I think injuring yourself really does make you more aware of the bad habits you have. So, everyone go break a leg and become enlightened. (jk)
I was out for 6 months with a shoulder injury + surgery. It sucked and really did make me think about how to perform my duties in a safer way.
I really do think the safety training is helping to reduce time lost injuries. I know the training gets on everyone's nerves, including mine, but it does make you think.  | LOL on the dude part.
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01-18-2009, 02:27 PM
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#53 | | Junior Member
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Rep Power: 0 | Re: Safety Compliance. Quote:
Originally Posted by soberups At your next compliance meeting, ask your supervisor this question..."why will UPS pay thousands of dollars to have me take tests and perform audits, and yet refuse to retrofit my P-800 with a 3 point seatbelt that will save my life in a collision?"
You wont get an answer, because the brutal truth is this; UPS's so-called "commitment to safety" is a scam. Your safety means nothing to them, and never will. The only thing UPS cares about is bare minimum compliance with OSHA regs to avoid paying fines. An injured or dead employee can simply be replaced with one who makes $10 an hour less, will be in progression for two years, and has less vacations to pay for. | This is an excellent point. At a safety meeting a year ago I presented a safety concern to have AED's in our building. We have probably about 1500 people working in our building.
The request was denied for liability reasons.
Yet when I talked with the chief safety officer with the fire department he was surprised that we did not have any and thought it was more of a liability NOT to have them. |
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01-20-2009, 08:55 AM
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#54 | | Junior Member
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Rep Power: 0 | Re: Safety Compliance. hey Steve...I talked to that Sup in Columbia Center and she is willing to share her ideas but she needs an address. Too bad more employees can't "see" the big picture like you finally have. I know most times it seems like the company doesn't care but it takes communication and cooperation of both sides. |
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01-20-2009, 10:15 AM
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#55 | | respect my authority
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Rep Power: 1718 | Re: Safety Compliance. Quote:
Originally Posted by Paid-over-in-Maine We just had a Tier 3 in our building. A guy pulled out to pass a car, directly into the path of one of our Brothers. He was doing 40 mph, who knows how fast the other guy was traveling. It took our CM 15 minutes after arriving at the scene to approach our brother who was in a cruiser doing paperwork to see if he was OK!! Tell me...What are they REALLY concerned with? | How is he doing i havent talked to him for a couple days, i hope he is getting better. He was so lucky to have survived, we could have very easily lost another brother from another mother. Did you hear if driver of car was drunk? |
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01-20-2009, 06:20 PM
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#56 | | 15 more years of this!
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Rep Power: 506 | Re: Safety Compliance. Quote:
Originally Posted by backinbrown How is he doing i havent talked to him for a couple days, i hope he is getting better. He was so lucky to have survived, we could have very easily lost another brother from another mother. Did you hear if driver of car was drunk? | I'll PM you.
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01-20-2009, 06:50 PM
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#57 | | Senior Member
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Rep Power: 4210 | Re: Safety Compliance. We had a serious injury in our center in late December.One of our drivers tripped over a golf bag pkg that was on the floor and fell towards the open bulkhead door.He cut his arm very badly to the bone the door opening of a P-800.Apparently, over the years, this opening gets pretty dang sharp.He required several surgeries and still has some numb feelings in his fingers....He will be out 3-6 months for sure......It's good to learn from other centers injuries...Just a thought.. |
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01-20-2009, 07:01 PM
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#58 | | aka Grandstug
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Rep Power: 8530 | Re: Safety Compliance. Quote:
Originally Posted by Paid-over-in-Maine I'll PM you. | PM me too! |
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01-20-2009, 07:03 PM
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#59 | | To Endeavor To Persevere
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Rep Power: 372 | Re: Safety Compliance. We had about the same thing happen with one of our older pkg cars a few years ago. It cut him open real bad. They shaved off the sharp edges on the bulk head doors of all of our older cars, so it would happen again to some one else. I couldn't believed how sharp they get just by it rubbing on the jam when you open and shut the door, so look sharp and don't get cut. |
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01-20-2009, 07:04 PM
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#60 | | aka Grandstug
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Rep Power: 8530 | Re: Safety Compliance. Quote:
Originally Posted by Bad Gas! We had a serious injury in our center in late December.One of our drivers tripped over a golf bag pkg that was on the floor and fell towards the open bulkhead door.He cut his arm very badly to the bone the door opening of a P-800.Apparently, over the years, this opening gets pretty dang sharp.He required several surgeries and still has some numb feelings in his fingers....He will be out 3-6 months for sure......It's good to learn from other centers injuries...Just a thought.. | True, but, it's better to learn about stuff like this before it happens. Hindsight is 20/20, ya know. |
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01-20-2009, 07:06 PM
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#61 | | To Endeavor To Persevere
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Rep Power: 372 | Re: Safety Compliance. I was wondering what do you do with your safety money the company give the center each month for working safe? |
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01-20-2009, 07:13 PM
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#62 | | aka Grandstug
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Rep Power: 8530 | Re: Safety Compliance. Quote:
Originally Posted by LastBest&Final I was wondering what do you do with your safety money the company give the center each month for working safe? | Depends on how much it is, but usually, we get the drivers bagels and coffee with a side of fruits and water. We try to work it so everyone benefits from being safe. |
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01-20-2009, 07:25 PM
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#63 | | Senior Member
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Rep Power: 5669 | Re: Safety Compliance. Quote:
Originally Posted by Bad Gas! We had a serious injury in our center in late December.One of our drivers tripped over a golf bag pkg that was on the floor and fell towards the open bulkhead door.He cut his arm very badly to the bone the door opening of a P-800.Apparently, over the years, this opening gets pretty dang sharp.He required several surgeries and still has some numb feelings in his fingers....He will be out 3-6 months for sure......It's good to learn from other centers injuries...Just a thought.. | Where I'm at, we also have trucks with the razor sharp edge where the bulk head door closes. We've not had cuts as bad as the one you described though. When someone writes it up in the DVIR, the mechanics will put a strip of duct tape over the sharp edge. It's funny how problems never actually get solved, just covered up. |
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01-20-2009, 07:36 PM
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#64 | | LOADED FOR BEAR
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Originally Posted by LastBest&Final I was wondering what do you do with your safety money the company give the center each month for working safe? | We just got new gloves. G-Tek. Ever heard of them? They fit well and don't have bulky seams.
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01-20-2009, 07:39 PM
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#65 | | To Endeavor To Persevere
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Rep Power: 372 | Re: Safety Compliance. We use to do that, too, but some didn't like bagels or it was the wrong kind of fruit and others ate breakfast and just what to get on road as fast as they could etc... So we bought a few pair of UPS socks for everyone, and really worked out good last quarter. Today we decided to get more socks for the ones that want them or a few pairs of those new gloves that they got out now. |
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01-20-2009, 08:03 PM
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#66 | | aka Grandstug
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Rep Power: 8530 | Re: Safety Compliance. Quote:
Originally Posted by LastBest&Final We use to do that, too, but some didn't like bagels or it was the wrong kind of fruit and others ate breakfast and just what to get on road as fast as they could etc... So we bought a few pair of UPS socks for everyone, and really worked out good last quarter. Today we decided to get more socks for the ones that want them or a few pairs of those new gloves that they got out now. | All good ideas. We do the same with the socks, except you have to answer the questions right, in front of everyone. My manager started a good thing, but that faded when peak came around. He would take you to lunch, and you could give him all the answers over lunch. |
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01-20-2009, 09:49 PM
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#67 | | Senior Member
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Rep Power: 10009 | Re: Safety Compliance. They just cut back on the safety money they would give us. So it will take us twice as long to earn any "rewards." And socks seem to be the thing most people are happy to receive. When the bagels, fruit, etc. were given out on Friday mornings, boy would you hear the complaints about the preloaders getting the leftovers. My God, it got petty. |
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01-20-2009, 10:12 PM
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#68 | | Senior Member
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Rep Power: 13435 | Re: Safety Compliance. Quote:
Originally Posted by trplnkl When in college one of my instructors was an Ex Commercial Pilot that just got tired of being a pilot. He said the worst part of being a pilot was, it was so boring. He told us that nothing ever happened, yet they prayed that nothing would ever happen. | He probably started flying in the military. There is a bit more excitement there. My father was a bombardier who flew in B 24s over Germany. It was far from boring. Quote:
Originally Posted by HEFFERNAN There you go with the 3 pt seatbelt again !!!!!
Damn you soberups !!!!!!!  | He's right though. The company is spending big money on telemetrics, what does a seat belt cost? My face is too pretty to be planted in a windshield!
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01-21-2009, 04:36 AM
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#69 | | aka Grandstug
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Rep Power: 8530 | Re: Safety Compliance. Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Babooba He's right though. The company is spending big money on telemetrics, what does a seat belt cost? My face is too pretty to be planted in a windshield!  | Very good point, BigB, I'll follow up on this, as I'd hate to see your pretty face squished, like a Persian cat. No offense to you Persian cat lovers.
Also, these major things we're talking about, cannot be handled right here in the building. The big boys need to hear and see what we're talking about. I just happen to have the mouth and the visual effects to present such data. Thanks! |
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01-21-2009, 04:37 AM
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#70 | | LOADED FOR BEAR
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Rep Power: 11397 | Re: Safety Compliance. Quote:
Originally Posted by stevetheupsguy Very good point, BigB, I'll follow up on this, as I'd hate to see your pretty face squished, like a Persian cat. No offense to you Persian cat lovers. | Or a bulldog! LOL
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01-21-2009, 05:46 AM
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#71 | | Senior Member
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Rep Power: 1785 | Re: Safety Compliance. Quote:
Originally Posted by helenofcalifornia They just cut back on the safety money they would give us. So it will take us twice as long to earn any "rewards." And socks seem to be the thing most people are happy to receive. When the bagels, fruit, etc. were given out on Friday mornings, boy would you hear the complaints about the preloaders getting the leftovers. My God, it got petty. | Helen you don't need new socks. Just cut off the tops, enough so the brown shows and wear them over a good pair like thorlos.
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01-21-2009, 10:54 AM
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#72 | | Senior Member
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Rep Power: 8296 | Re: Safety Compliance. Tip of my cap to your old man Big Baboo ,, a very brave man to go on a mission such as his & to help rid this world of NAZI SCUM !!!
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01-21-2009, 05:00 PM
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#73 | | aka Grandstug
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Rep Power: 8530 | Re: Safety Compliance. Quote:
Originally Posted by browndevil Helen you don't need new socks. Just cut off the tops, enough so the brown shows and wear them over a good pair like thorlos. | I don't even wear socks, anymore. I just cut the tops off of the brown socks, and wear them as wrist bands on my ankles.  j/k |
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01-22-2009, 04:48 AM
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#74 | | Senior Member
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Rep Power: 4210 | Re: Safety Compliance. Quote:
Originally Posted by stevetheupsguy True, but, it's better to learn about stuff like this before it happens. Hindsight is 20/20, ya know. | True.....The 20/20 would be pick up the golf bag pkg off floor and get it out of the way if possible...The other 20/20 would be a pkg car door jam inspection by mgt or the safty team.. |
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01-22-2009, 07:35 AM
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#75 | | Senior Member
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Rep Power: 8296 | Re: Safety Compliance. Until UPS takes a little work off of the cars,injuries will continue! People don't think clear when under as much pressure as they are in a pkg car. You can preach safety and put a flag or a piece of tape and a cone around anything,but it will not stop an accident like a freak thing with the golf bag !!
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