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Int'lguy · 06-19-2009, 06:07 PM

wchpa to close soon

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Originally Posted by H_E_Pennypacker

The whole building? Its not a hub, they only have a Pre and Twi. WCHPA has a big preload/delivery area; which building is going to take those four centers?

Can't believe that one. Its the largest delivery and air/intl pickup building in the MPN district (and one of the largest in the country). There is no where else in the district to fit all four centers (even one for that matter).

Pennypacker - you're right, there is no "hub" so to speak in WCHPA anymore. Twi and preload is all they got.

I think whomever was saying this was only smokin' something.

airbusfxr · 06-19-2009, 08:17 PM

RFD is overflow in case SDF snows in. DFW has to much freight in and out. CAE will go back to NDA only, ONT to much freight in and out, ANC is pac rim hub, BDL scale back, MIA scale back, PHL scale back, SDF will run WLDPT wide open and pray weather never hits. ORD has NDA in and out because RFD is transfer hub. The Airline will end up like 1986 all planes will fly to SDF and sort, and very few hubs will be fully operational. The planes will fly to SDF sort and end up at final destinations then sit idol all day. At night the airplanes will load up fly to SDF sort and repeat. UPS has been mismanaged at all levels for so many years and it has finally caught up to us.

ups767mech · 06-19-2009, 09:38 PM

I heard today that they are going to close SDF and start doing the NDA sort in PVG and HGK.

pemanager · 06-19-2009, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ups767mech

I heard today that they are going to close SDF and start doing the NDA sort in PVG and HGK.

Just so I can fully appreciate your sarcasm, where are PVG and HGK?

Foxups · 06-20-2009, 03:31 AM

So will the fulltimers at RFD be able to follow the work to Lou?

pickup · 06-20-2009, 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by BLACKBOX

I find that hard to believe especially since most of the automotive parts are made across the border there using cheap labor.

Anybody buying cars these days? and maybe the mexican truckers from the pilot program (under Nafta) are more than enough to bring the reduced freight in.

I am not to sure if that pilot program is still continuing or not

UPS Guy 2 · 06-20-2009, 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Foxups

So will the fulltimers at RFD be able to follow the work to Lou?

no my friend you will not , RFD is all but confirmed to close

kpasa1 · 06-20-2009, 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by UPS Guy 2

no my friend you will not , RFD is all but confirmed to close

When are they supposed to close?

UPS Guy 2 · 06-20-2009, 06:18 AM

heard as early as september but that seems unlikely more realistic would be 2010

Foxups · 06-20-2009, 07:23 AM

UPS Guy 2 Where is your information coming from on the closing of RFD hub.

UPS Guy 2 · 06-20-2009, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Foxups

UPS Guy 2 Where is your information coming from on the closing of RFD hub.

from a pilot have a name if it had to be verified

Hoaxster · 06-20-2009, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by UPS Guy 2

from a pilot have a name if it had to be verified

An Air Feeder Driver.

UPS Guy 2 · 06-21-2009, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoaxster

An Air Feeder Driver.

you heard it from a air feeder driver as well?

Hoaxster · 06-21-2009, 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by UPS Guy 2

you heard it from a air feeder driver as well?

pilot = air feeder driver

BrownEvo · 06-21-2009, 08:15 PM

Anybody know if any Jersey hub/centers are going to close?

mrv · 06-21-2009, 10:36 PM

Once Worldport is at full capacity there will be no need for regional air hubs like RFD, DFW, CAE .....

H_E_Pennypacker · 06-22-2009, 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by pemanager

Just so I can fully appreciate your sarcasm, where are PVG and HGK?

PVG = Shanghai (Pudong)
HKG = Hong Kong

airbusfxr · 06-22-2009, 09:13 AM

The airline will operate like 1984, all planes from gateways fly to SDF, sort and fly back to terminating gateways. The NDA will be the only pkg option but it will save money and make UPS more operational leaner.

Buffaloaf · 06-22-2009, 05:07 PM

So are there any legit rumors circulating about RFD closing, or just one from a pilot? It seems that the RFD night sort has been quite a bit busier lately (about 10% more volume than the past couple months) and it is located in such a convenient area for LOUKY that it seems strange that it would go down. It is actually cheaper to service the west coast from RFD than it is from LOUKY. It seems to me that the RFD night sort would be the last to go before everything gets sucked up into LOUKY. Correct me if I'm way off here..

UPS Guy 2 · 06-23-2009, 02:31 PM

RFD Twi and Preload volume is down night sort averaging around 100K night still hearing rumblings about shutting down by Sept which I don't see how they could do that that quick....

brownsugar · 06-23-2009, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by H_E_Pennypacker

PVG = Shanghai (Pudong)
HKG = Hong Kong

And in 2012
SZX = Shenzhen

Buffaloaf · 06-23-2009, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by UPS Guy 2

RFD Twi and Preload volume is down night sort averaging around 100K night still hearing rumblings about shutting down by Sept which I don't see how they could do that that quick....

Right, but volume numbers are down nationwide with the exception of LOUKY. One thing to consider with shutting down RFD night is that that sort is the primary contingency plan for if something crazy happens at LOUKY and they need to divert. It is pretty much right in the middle of the country and straight north of it. It can process international packages (not sure how many of the other night sorts can) as well. Also, if you look up in SEAS, the RFD night sort has the best missort frequency for NDA sorts -- and it isn't really close. I don't really see what would keep a place like Denver or PHL open over a place like RFD. What is it that I'm missing?

UPS Guy 2 · 06-26-2009, 11:06 PM

is 100k a night in volume enough to keep a hub open?

jedispork · 07-03-2009, 05:25 AM

RFD also has a major air cargo building and the preload delivers to many nearby towns. Its in the middle of everything. Worldport can't handle all the volume can they? Who will deliver the local packages? We still handle around 20 aircraft a night at rfd and send a plane out to anchorage.

Are their plans to keep the preload open? So curious as to what would happen with my full time job. I have 10 years in now and 8 full time but not sure if thats enough to hold me a place on preload (which is where I started)

I think its a bs rumor but you never can be to sure. Getting tired of ups anyway.
RFD is the second largest city in IL not sure they could just dump the volume on another preload.

pullman · 07-03-2009, 11:41 PM

The Rockford, IL hub will not close! Downsize maybe, but not close. UPS has invested to much time and money to completely close RFD. This is a rumor started by a troll that was either 1... Terminated 2... Layed off or 3... Disgruntled! Not everything on the internet is true! Happy 4th of July!!!!!!!!!!!