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Old 07-25-2009, 04:31 AM   #76
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RFD has alot of room for planes to sit
That's why RFD is SDF's back up. RFD is the second largest UPS hub by Ramp size (PHL has us beat on sort facility size) in North America with 50 acres of ramp space with 40 Aircraft parking positions.

Besides, if they wanted planes to sit. They'd keep them at SDF since that's where the maintenance hangers are located. I don't think those mechanics would want work on aircraft outside in the middle of an IL winter.
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That's why RFD is SDF's back up. RFD is the second largest UPS hub by Ramp size (PHL has us beat on sort facility size) in North America with 50 acres of ramp space with 40 Aircraft parking positions.

Besides, if they wanted planes to sit. They'd keep them at SDF since that's where the maintenance hangers are located. I don't think those mechanics would want work on aircraft outside in the middle of an IL winter.
Maintenance hangers? How many gateways does UPS have and all mechanical work is performed outside no matter what the weather.
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word is that might sort coming back....or at least what they are going to call a "relief sort" Herd from feed drivers and mg. that the closings are causing a lot of service fallers. talk is we will hear something in Sep. along with the rest of mess at dfw
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word is that might sort coming back....or at least what they are going to call a "relief sort" Herd from feed drivers and mg. that the closings are causing a lot of service fallers. talk is we will hear something in Sep. along with the rest of mess at dfw

This is good to hear. Most likely they will probably only bring the DFW night sort back for peak, but I'm sure that closing Columbia and DFW was corporate's way of seeing how it impacts the other night sorts -- most particularly SDF. I think that if they reopen DFW, it could indicate that they plan on keeping at least a few of the other night sorts open once SDF's expansion is in full swing. Just because you can sort 500,000 pieces per hour doesn't mean that you want to always be sorting at that capacity -- then you're screwed for peak and have to open up other hubs temporarily (4 months out of the year). By running at max capacity and then opening up temp. hubs, you are going to have increased service failures and damages. Just my take on it -- maybe sounds too optimistic because I don't want my night hub to close, but I think it makes sense...comments?
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Another thing to note: In Rockford they are begining to promote candidates for Part-time Supervisors...previously they have had a freeze all year. We have not hired a single person all year and are begining to hire. It would seem strange for corporate to allow us to promote PT Sups into the company -- we currently have plenty of PT Sup staffing to cover all areas, train new hires, and have a few extra to cover any additional areas that may open for peak -- only to have to lay them all in January. Just more food for thought, I suppose.
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It is rumored that the DFW air sort will be closing the day shift within a year. When that happens, there will be Sunrise and Twilight. The hub will run two large shifts. So, the sunrise shift will look more like twighlight in terms of total volume count.
from what i have heard is that the day side is still on table to get rid of it because of week end vol. is light (covering old night vol.) during week vol is to high to push it anywhere. the twl has been working long hours since night sort left..word is that night sort coming back..as a "relief sort" to keep combo's from coming back 80+ they are still not letting and combo displace pters on noonday...well all rumors have and still say sep. we will find out whats going to happen
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This is good to hear. Most likely they will probably only bring the DFW night sort back for peak, but I'm sure that closing Columbia and DFW was corporate's way of seeing how it impacts the other night sorts -- most particularly SDF. I think that if they reopen DFW, it could indicate that they plan on keeping at least a few of the other night sorts open once SDF's expansion is in full swing. Just because you can sort 500,000 pieces per hour doesn't mean that you want to always be sorting at that capacity -- then you're screwed for peak and have to open up other hubs temporarily (4 months out of the year). By running at max capacity and then opening up temp. hubs, you are going to have increased service failures and damages. Just my take on it -- maybe sounds too optimistic because I don't want my night hub to close, but I think it makes sense...comments?
that was one of the rumors was that they would bring back night sort just for peak and then go back to lay offs. i have heard from mg and some feeder drivers is that Louisville is having trouble w making service(not production ) i guess little delays add up when every thing is being sent to one hub. This is what fedex does..but i guess we will see in sep.
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one more thing is the twl ramp is going to hire 6 more in next 2weeks. after night sort closed in feb. and combos went to twl. mg. didn't lay off anyone just made room. mg always said they have to many people and not enough work but didn't lay off anyone or put them in hub that has been working 4-5hr daily w/ high turn over. when i asked why are we hiring more they just say we lost a couple of people. haven't seen but one quit. this could be because night sort is coming back or that company can only dead lock noonday issue one more time before a mediator steps in and article 48 has clear langue regarding layoffs.
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