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03-26-2009, 04:46 AM
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#1 | | Senior Member
Join Date: May 2006 Location: toronto canada
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Rep Power: 126 | Saving hourly jobs UPS could save money and jobs by getting rid of the sups that walk around with clip boards doing nothing at all.I dont know about anywhere else,but in Canada we have sups for everything,i mean they hired a nineteen year old girl that has never del ,knows nothing about UPS to do driver audits.The drivers are the ones that will keep this company going ,not a bunch of $90,000 a year sups to reads reports that are just so stupid and fire as many drivers as possible for little or no reason.We as as drivers have to start sticking together ,like no one on there car till after pcm,our preload would die like a rat if that happened here. |
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03-26-2009, 05:22 AM
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#2 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: in a box, under a bridge
Posts: 2,458
Rep Power: 13435 | re: Saving hourly jobs Do you realize what you're saying? If UPS got rid of all the clipboard carrying dead wood, the clipboard manufacturing industry would collapse. This would start a domino effect. Next would be the paper industry, no clipboards - no need for paper. Then would come the pen and pencil industries. The graphite and ink industries would flounder. Even the companies that make the little rubber pencil erasers would be hit. No paper & ink - no books, newspapers and magazines.
Schools across the land will close because they can't get supplies. The students, with nothing else to do will run rampant through the streets. Anarchy will encompass the land. This will eventually bite UPS in the ass come next Peak. Instead of hiring 50 gazillion Christmas helpers, they'll be laying off tens of thousands. UPS won't be delivering Christmas presents to little Johnny because his father lost his job at the pencil eraser factory.
We have to keep the doorstops and paperweights employed. It is vital to the global economy. You have to Get the Big Picture.
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03-26-2009, 06:03 AM
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#3 | | 555
Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Texas, UPS Southern Conference
Posts: 4,593
Rep Power: 19897 | re: Saving hourly jobs Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Babooba Do you realize what you're saying? If UPS got rid of all the clipboard carrying dead wood, the clipboard manufacturing industry would collapse. This would start a domino effect. Next would be the paper industry, no clipboards - no need for paper. Then would come the pen and pencil industries. The graphite and ink industries would flounder. Even the companies that make the little rubber pencil erasers would be hit. No paper & ink - no books, newspapers and magazines.
Schools across the land will close because they can't get supplies. The students, with nothing else to do will run rampant through the streets. Anarchy will encompass the land. This will eventually bite UPS in the ass come next Peak. Instead of hiring 50 gazillion Christmas helpers, they'll be laying off tens of thousands. UPS won't be delivering Christmas presents to little Johnny because his father lost his job at the pencil eraser factory.
We have to keep the doorstops and paperweights employed. It is vital to the global economy. You have to Get the Big Picture. | Too much coffee Big?
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03-26-2009, 06:06 AM
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#4 | | Disillusioned UPSer
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 701
Rep Power: 1718 | re: Saving hourly jobs Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Babooba Do you realize what you're saying? If UPS got rid of all the clipboard carrying dead wood, the clipboard manufacturing industry would collapse. This would start a domino effect. Next would be the paper industry, no clipboards - no need for paper. Then would come the pen and pencil industries. The graphite and ink industries would flounder. Even the companies that make the little rubber pencil erasers would be hit. No paper & ink - no books, newspapers and magazines.
Schools across the land will close because they can't get supplies. The students, with nothing else to do will run rampant through the streets. Anarchy will encompass the land. This will eventually bite UPS in the ass come next Peak. Instead of hiring 50 gazillion Christmas helpers, they'll be laying off tens of thousands. UPS won't be delivering Christmas presents to little Johnny because his father lost his job at the pencil eraser factory.
We have to keep the doorstops and paperweights employed. It is vital to the global economy. You have to Get the Big Picture. | Now I don't care who ya are, that there is funny....
Motorola stock would also collapse, don't forget.
We have a sup in Allentown, a female on local sort - at least I think she is a sup, she has a clipboard and a reflective vest - that spends the entire evening helping increase the revenue of cingular wireless, if you get my drift, while assuring that the walls don't fall down by selflessly leaning on them all night. |
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03-26-2009, 06:13 AM
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#5 | | Junior Member
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 20
Rep Power: 0 | re: Saving hourly jobs Even better is how much money we could save by getting rid of dead weight Teamsters who think we owe them a job. Now that would be some savings. |
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03-26-2009, 06:16 AM
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#6 | | 555
Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Texas, UPS Southern Conference
Posts: 4,593
Rep Power: 19897 | re: Saving hourly jobs Quote:
Originally Posted by cancun Even better is how much money we could save by getting rid of dead weight Teamsters who think we owe them a job. Now that would be some savings. | If we got rid of all the deadwood Teamsters, they wouldn't have anyone to promote into management.
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03-26-2009, 06:16 AM
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#7 | | Disillusioned UPSer
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 701
Rep Power: 1718 | re: Saving hourly jobs DUCK!!!!! |
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03-26-2009, 06:20 AM
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#8 | | Mace of Serenity
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 1,885
Rep Power: 10852 | re: Saving hourly jobs Quote:
Originally Posted by trplnkl If we got rid of all the deadwood Teamsters, they wouldn't have anyone to promote into management. | cha-ching!
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03-26-2009, 07:12 AM
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#9 | | New Jack
Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: NW WA
Posts: 75
Rep Power: 313 | re: Saving hourly jobs I don't think a single one of our sups, puts even 50% effort towards their job. When no one is looking the FT sups go home and leave the PT sups in charge of everything. Well guess what, with FT sups gone, the PT sups begin the phone calling to their friends, or just sit around and talk gossip. Funny all the hourlies still do their jobs and make this company continue to operate. They could rid us of all our sups, save for 1 OMS, and 1 Preload sup, and nothing would change. Sad that IE cant look at their numbers, and increase their SPOR to unrealistic levels.
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03-26-2009, 07:39 AM
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#10 | | Moderator
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 1,387
Rep Power: 8054 | re: Saving hourly jobs Most people with clipboards in their hands are temporary employees or union revenue recovery auditors.
Don't be so quick to assume that an employee who is not handling packages in the operations are $90,000 a year sup, unless you know for a fact threir job title. |
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03-26-2009, 07:53 AM
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#11 | | Disillusioned UPSer
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 701
Rep Power: 1718 | re: Saving hourly jobs Quote:
Originally Posted by Channahon Most people with clipboards in their hands are temporary employees or union revenue recovery auditors.
Don't be so quick to assume that an employee who is not handling packages in the operations are $90,000 a year sup, unless you know for a fact threir job title. | The ones I've seen? If they make $5,000 a year, they are over-paid |
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03-26-2009, 08:11 AM
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#12 | | Moderator
Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: North New England
Posts: 9,387
Rep Power: 18427 | re: Saving hourly jobs C'mon, everyone has a job to do.
They used to tell us the revenue recovery gals collect more than their salary.
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03-26-2009, 08:11 AM
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#13 | | I need more carbon paper
Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: midwest
Posts: 14
Rep Power: 0 | re: Saving hourly jobs I've just decided. I'm done with Brown Cafe. Life is too short to spend even five minutes looking at this drivel. The company is trying to survive the worst economy in 80 years and it is the same old crap on this site. Do any of you drivers ever talk to your customers????? Do you hear them talking tough about how their company stinks and owes them more than they are getting? etc. etc. etc. ad nauseum. My God, wake up. I will miss STUG's photos and threads like that, but I can't stand going past all the hatred and ignorance on the other threads to find something refreshing. Good luck to all and hope to see you all still at ups on the other side (of this economic crisis). |
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03-26-2009, 08:20 AM
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#14 | | Disillusioned UPSer
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 701
Rep Power: 1718 | re: Saving hourly jobs but.... Drivel is fun!
buh-bye |
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03-26-2009, 08:20 AM
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#15 | | Moderator
Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: North New England
Posts: 9,387
Rep Power: 18427 | re: Saving hourly jobs Well, thanks for those 14 posts anyhow! Cya
Or, instead of leaving you could help make Brown Cafe even better.
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03-26-2009, 08:57 AM
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#16 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 183
Rep Power: 0 | re: Saving hourly jobs I like the drivel and drama. The Brown Cafe is my daily soap opera. I definitely wouldn't tune in if it weren't for the endless bitching and bickering. |
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03-26-2009, 09:25 AM
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#17 | | King Of All Managers
Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: NYC
Posts: 6
Rep Power: 0 | re: Saving hourly jobs Quote:
Originally Posted by sealbasher UPS could save money and jobs by getting rid of the sups that walk around with clip boards doing nothing at all.I dont know about anywhere else,but in Canada we have sups for everything,i mean they hired a nineteen year old girl that has never del ,knows nothing about UPS to do driver audits.The drivers are the ones that will keep this company going ,not a bunch of $90,000 a year sups to reads reports that are just so stupid and fire as many drivers as possible for little or no reason.We as as drivers have to start sticking together ,like no one on there car till after pcm,our preload would die like a rat if that happened here. | 90K a year from whom?? Part time sups who get out-earned by a lot the PT hourlies? Ownership continues to bring in differing levels of management for one reason, and one reason only. Results aren't there. If you would do what YOU needed to do according to what WE ask you to do, then you wouldn't see as many "useless" management people walking around your building.
Cheers, and stay safe.
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03-26-2009, 09:31 AM
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#18 | | Moderator
Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: California
Posts: 529
Rep Power: 1602 | re: Saving hourly jobs Quote:
Originally Posted by TGD I've just decided. I'm done with Brown Cafe. Life is too short to spend even five minutes looking at this drivel. The company is trying to survive the worst economy in 80 years and it is the same old crap on this site. Do any of you drivers ever talk to your customers????? Do you hear them talking tough about how their company stinks and owes them more than they are getting? etc. etc. etc. ad nauseum. My God, wake up. I will miss STUG's photos and threads like that, but I can't stand going past all the hatred and ignorance on the other threads to find something refreshing. Good luck to all and hope to see you all still at ups on the other side (of this economic crisis). | With 14 posts to your name I really don't think you gave us enough time!!
You can pick and chose the threads you are interested in reading and contributing in.
For instance sealbasher started this thread out of frustration... but then made it hilarious by saying that a 19 year girl was making 90k a year!!!  Then Big Babooba added to the humor with his clipboard collapse.
Have a little fun and take every thread with a grain of salt.
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03-26-2009, 09:34 AM
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#19 | | Moderator
Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: California
Posts: 529
Rep Power: 1602 | re: Saving hourly jobs Quote:
Originally Posted by LightsOut 90K a year from whom?? Part time sups who get out-earned by a lot the PT hourlies? Ownership continues to bring in differing levels of management for one reason, and one reason only. Results aren't there. If you would do what YOU needed to do according to what WE ask you to do, then you wouldn't see as many "useless" management people walking around your building.
Cheers, and stay safe. | Hey LightsOut,
Welcome to the Brown Cafe!!
Here we are with another example of someone's valid opinion.
Thanks!
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03-26-2009, 10:02 AM
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#20 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: USA !!!!!
Posts: 506
Rep Power: 1212 | re: Saving hourly jobs Quote:
Originally Posted by cancun Even better is how much money we could save by getting rid of dead weight Teamsters who think we owe them a job. Now that would be some savings. | Then that means you might have to get out and earn your paycheck. Oh wait you can't do that because you might not get your full lunch hour in. I have seen first hand that when our CM is gone the rest of the FT sups sit around with their feet up and some even go home early. I wonder if every time you go to use the bathroom do you take that time out of your lunch hour? Everyone needs to account for their own time. |
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03-26-2009, 12:02 PM
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#21 | | Junior Member
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 2
Rep Power: 0 | Re: Saving hourly jobs Quote:
Originally Posted by BrownBlue I don't think a single one of our sups, puts even 50% effort towards their job. When no one is looking the FT sups go home and leave the PT sups in charge of everything. Well guess what, with FT sups gone, the PT sups begin the phone calling to their friends, or just sit around and talk gossip. Funny all the hourlies still do their jobs and make this company continue to operate. They could rid us of all our sups, save for 1 OMS, and 1 Preload sup, and nothing would change. Sad that IE cant look at their numbers, and increase their SPOR to unrealistic levels.  | |
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03-26-2009, 12:05 PM
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#22 | | Junior Member
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 2
Rep Power: 0 | Re: Saving hourly jobs Don't worry, the management buyout is coming soon. We'll get rid of all the dead weight management people. Watch out for the A.A.'s that now get paid by the week. They are the new non-union hourly's. What a mistake they made choosing to be "management". |
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03-26-2009, 12:07 PM
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#23 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: behind a drum kit
Posts: 1,646
Rep Power: 2490 | Re: Saving hourly jobs Quote:
Originally Posted by Channahon Most people with clipboards in their hands are temporary employees or union revenue recovery auditors.
Don't be so quick to assume that an employee who is not handling packages in the operations are $90,000 a year sup, unless you know for a fact threir job title. | In all the buildings I've worked, I have never not once seen a revenue auditor with a clipboard in their hands. They don't even have clipboards, actually. It's the revenue supervisors who walk around with clipboards. And yes I know the difference. It could be different in other areas, of course. |
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03-26-2009, 02:37 PM
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#24 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: somewhere, usa
Posts: 123
Rep Power: 0 | Re: Saving hourly jobs my FT sups. are good at what they do, sitting in the office talking football, bsaeball, then by 11 they go to lunch together. They are saving the company so much money being together. |
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03-26-2009, 03:23 PM
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#25 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 307
Rep Power: 2980 | Re: Saving hourly jobs Quote:
Originally Posted by TGD I've just decided. I'm done with Brown Cafe. Life is too short to spend even five minutes looking at this drivel. The company is trying to survive the worst economy in 80 years and it is the same old crap on this site. Do any of you drivers ever talk to your customers????? Do you hear them talking tough about how their company stinks and owes them more than they are getting? etc. etc. etc. ad nauseum. My God, wake up. I will miss STUG's photos and threads like that, but I can't stand going past all the hatred and ignorance on the other threads to find something refreshing. Good luck to all and hope to see you all still at ups on the other side (of this economic crisis). | NO NO Please don't go! Please.
We cant go on without you. The cafe will never be the same again. My word, without your 14 post the whole internet may collapse.
Please cant we talk it over. cant you reconsider.
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