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Originally Posted by Dizzee  Or, at the very least, follow the guidelines.  | 
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04-19-2009, 01:38 PM
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#27 | | I live dilbert
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Originally Posted by over9five And lacking a knife, I've defended myself many times using only my stylus. | Did moi over swirl zee stylus like a french saber Did over jab thrust with the stylus in the right hand while his left hand was on his left hip? oh pray tell my gendarme?
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04-19-2009, 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Livin the Dream? Every morning you wake up & go outside you take a chance, it has nothing to do with UPS. The liable party is the one that hurts you. | your missing the point i wake up every morning and strap on a glock23 because of the chance! ups says i cant have it (i cant even leave it in my car), so because i can no longer take responsibility for MY safety THEY need to.
i agree that the company has the right to do this (and i prob. would make the same decision if i was up in the brown~ivory tower) BUT they must take responsibility for this decision and that includes liability! | |
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04-19-2009, 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Livin the Dream? Lucky he is not already charged criminally. | What would be the charge? Just curious again.
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04-19-2009, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Johney What would be the charge? Just curious again. | Depending on where he lives. possession of a firearm. Depending on where the incident happened, discharging a firearm in the city limits. Depending on the mood of the LEO, cruelty to an animal.
Not saying I am in favor of any of these charges, but they are just a few that are possible.
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04-19-2009, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by neartom A package driver at my center shot a dog April 2nd, was fired April 7th, local hearing was April 16th. He has a panel hearing April 21st. Does anyone have any advice? | Quote:
Originally Posted by neartom N. E. AR. Center Seriously...Can't make this stuff up. Driver said he wants it to go to panel. Desperate to get his job back. Any advice? | I would expect the termination to be deadlocked, at best, at Panel. Doubtful the Local would take it to Arbitration, so from there I believe the driver would be need to retain his own attorney for an ALJ (Administrative Law Judge) hearing, or some other type of lawsuit.
But I'm way out over my skis on this. Remember, it is the Internets.
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Originally Posted by trplnkl Depending on where he lives. possession of a firearm. Depending on where the incident happened, discharging a firearm in the city limits. Depending on the mood of the LEO, cruelty to an animal.
Not saying I am in favor of any of these charges, but they are just a few that are possible. | :/
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04-19-2009, 02:37 PM
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Nevermind too much more needs to be said on this matter.
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04-19-2009, 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Johney Nevermind too much more needs to be said on this matter. | I said I wasn't in favor of the charges, I'm not even saying they would be up held, for the same reason you mentioned.
I just stated them as possibilities.
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04-19-2009, 02:54 PM
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I see this thread turning into a ".. You'll take my diad away when you pry it from my cold, dead fingers..." rant.
My favorite t-shirt of all time? "Guns don't kill people --- I Kill People..." | |
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04-19-2009, 03:01 PM
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Driver is done. Getting fired for carrying a gun not shooting a dog. Big no no. | |
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04-19-2009, 03:19 PM
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To that driver: 
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04-19-2009, 03:26 PM
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There are 10 types of people, those who understand binary and those who don't. 
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04-19-2009, 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by trplnkl I said I wasn't in favor of the charges, I'm not even saying they would be up held, for the same reason you mentioned.
I just stated them as possibilities. | I know trpl I just don't want to go down that road. Sorry if I offended you.
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04-19-2009, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by brown67 Driver is done. Getting fired for carrying a gun not shooting a dog. Big no no. | That is it period! As far as anything else happening, no one here can say what will/would happen although we all can guess. 
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04-19-2009, 03:41 PM
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If he has no priors, 3 years probation and 6 months community service spent at the local animal shelter.
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04-19-2009, 03:57 PM
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unless if the animal was harassing livestock. its legal (in my state) to shoot on site of such an occurance | |
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04-19-2009, 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Kraetos I thought the same, I can see how he would get fired for doing this on company time. | well just look at what happened to stug
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04-19-2009, 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Livin the Dream? You want advice? Use soap on a rope when he gets incarcerated - less likely to drop it. |
In prison the other inmates prefer that you tie said soap to your ankle. 
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04-19-2009, 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by leastbest I don't believe it. Since this is your first post put up a link to some documentation. Then tell us what center where. | I agree with Leastbest. Put up a link or newspaper article and what paper it was in. | |
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04-19-2009, 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by neartom N. E. AR. Center Seriously...Can't make this stuff up. Driver said he wants it to go to panel. Desperate to get his job back. Any advice? | You have to be more specific than Northeast Arkansas. What's the name of the center or SLIC # What town is the center located in and what town or route did the alleged dog shooting occur? | |
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04-19-2009, 05:48 PM
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04-19-2009, 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by neartom A package driver at my center shot a dog April 2nd, was fired April 7th, local hearing was April 16th. He has a panel hearing April 21st. Does anyone have any advice? | Was he on the clock, wearing a brown uniform, driving a brown truck in the service of UPS? Did he have his firearm in his truck?
If the answer is yes then do we even want him back? | |
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04-19-2009, 09:08 PM
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An eighty year old man gave me some advice some years ago about shooting dogs. He said shoot --shovel and SHUT UP!!! Have a nice day. | |
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