Package Driver shoots dog

[neartom]

A package driver at my center shot a dog April 2nd, was fired April 7th, local hearing was April 16th. He has a panel hearing April 21st. Does anyone have any advice?

[leastbest]

I don't believe it. Since this is your first post put up a link to some documentation. Then tell us what center where.

[trplnkl]

I agree least, I really doubt that the Union would even take the case unless there is a false accusation of the event.

[bubsdad]

Definitely need more information for anyone to be able to have any kind of input.

[neartom]

N. E. AR. Center Seriously...Can't make this stuff up. Driver said he wants it to go to panel. Desperate to get his job back. Any advice?

[Livin the Dream?]

Hmmm....wonder what the Union can do regarding carrying a loaded sidearm?

Driver wants to go to panel? Driver is obviously, then, stupid.

On the off chance the OP is for real, driver should look for another job, quickly, in the hope that the other shoe does not drop. Which it probably will.

[some1else]

ups will not allow us to carry (even if licensed). so if i get stabbed by a junkie, or shot in a hijacking do i have any legal recourse? the company is prohibiting me from defending myself , and they provide absolutely NO security to us on route. so if i get hurt/killed on route would they have any liability?

[Livin the Dream?]

Originally Posted by some1else

ups will not allow us to carry (even if licensed). so if i get stabbed by a junkie, or shot in a hijacking do i have any legal recourse? the company is prohibiting me from defending myself , and they provide absolutely NO security to us on route. so if i get hurt/killed on route would they have any liability?

I'm certain you would get a warning letter, post mortem, stating it was an avoidable accident.

[trplnkl]

Originally Posted by some1else

ups will not allow us to carry (even if licensed). so if i get stabbed by a junkie, or shot in a hijacking do i have any legal recourse? the company is prohibiting me from defending myself , and they provide absolutely NO security to us on route. so if i get hurt/killed on route would they have any liability?

In today's world of "sue, see if it sticks" anything is possible.

[Raw]

Originally Posted by some1else

ups will not allow us to carry (even if licensed). so if i get stabbed by a junkie, or shot in a hijacking do i have any legal recourse? the company is prohibiting me from defending myself , and they provide absolutely NO security to us on route. so if i get hurt/killed on route would they have any liability?

UPS will cash in the large life insurance policy they carry on their employee`s though...

[over9five]

Originally Posted by Livin the Dream?

I'm certain you would get a warning letter, post mortem, stating it was an avoidable accident.

I don't care who you are, Yada yada yada!!!



....that was funny!

[Tiny Panda]

Originally Posted by some1else

ups will not allow us to carry (even if licensed). so if i get stabbed by a junkie, or shot in a hijacking do i have any legal recourse? the company is prohibiting me from defending myself , and they provide absolutely NO security to us on route. so if i get hurt/killed on route would they have any liability?

What do you think your Diad is for? Or your trolley?

I used my trolley to fend off 3 armed robbers holding up a jewellers 5 years ago.

[over9five]

And lacking a knife, I've defended myself many times using only my stylus.

[BLACKBOX]

Maybe he meant photo shoot?

[Kraetos]

Originally Posted by BLACKBOX

Maybe he meant photo shoot?

I thought the same, I can see how he would get fired for doing this on company time.

[some1else]

Originally Posted by trplnkl

In today's world of "sue, see if it sticks" anything is possible.

im serious im disarmed and left defenseless by ups; and they provide NO security for me on road.

and NO im not talking about defending ups/customer property thats not what im paid for. if someone seriously is trying to jack the truck and i think they actually are going to use violence im dropping the keys and taking off. im talking about some crazy meth-head or w/e i think they do have liabilty as a result of their policies

[Big Babooba]

Originally Posted by neartom

A package driver at my center shot a dog April 2nd, was fired April 7th, local hearing was April 16th. He has a panel hearing April 21st. Does anyone have any advice?

Don't bring the gun to the panel meeting.

[Livin the Dream?]

Originally Posted by some1else

im serious im disarmed and left defenseless by ups; and they provide NO security for me on road.

and NO im not talking about defending ups/customer property thats not what im paid for. if someone seriously is trying to jack the truck and i think they actually are going to use violence im dropping the keys and taking off. im talking about some crazy meth-head or w/e i think they do have liabilty as a result of their policies

You can't be serious. I won't even call you Shirley.

Every morning you wake up & go outside you take a chance, it has nothing to do with UPS. The liable party is the one that hurts you.

Any moron who brought a gun with him to deliver packages was a disaster waiting for a time to happen.

You want advice? Use soap on a rope when he gets incarcerated - less likely to drop it.

[Livin the Dream?]

Originally Posted by Tiny Panda

What do you think your Diad is for? Or your trolley?

I used my trolley to fend off 3 armed robbers holding up a jewellers 5 years ago.

What a coincidence! I used my jewelry to fend off some trolley robbers a few years ago.

[helenofcalifornia]

Back to original post: I don't think this guy has any chance of getting his job back. (if this is a serious post)

[Livin the Dream?]

Originally Posted by helenofcalifornia

Back to original post: I don't think this guy has any chance of getting his job back. (if this is a serious post)

Absolutely ZERO chance. Lucky he is not already charged criminally.

[feederdriver06]

Originally Posted by some1else

im serious im disarmed and left defenseless by ups; and they provide NO security for me on road.

and NO im not talking about defending ups/customer property thats not what im paid for. if someone seriously is trying to jack the truck and i think they actually are going to use violence im dropping the keys and taking off. im talking about some crazy meth-head or w/e i think they do have liabilty as a result of their policies

Lock and load driver...........lock and load. Never defend the truck with a weapon but when it comes to defending yourself you do what ever you have to. Screw the job and your boss and UPS. You only get one life and if someone takes it from you there is no getting it back. I would carry one of my handguns without a second thought if I felt it was necessary. Using a handgun if your life was endangered from an armed robber would be easier to make a case for than using a handgun on a dog. Good luck to the guy that shot the dog.

[trplnkl]

Originally Posted by feederdriver06

Lock and load driver...........lock and load. Never defend the truck with a weapon but when it comes to defending yourself you do what ever you have to. Screw the job and your boss and UPS. You only get one life and if someone takes it from you there is no getting it back. I would carry one of my handguns without a second thought if I felt it was necessary. Using a handgun if your life was endangered from an armed robber would be easier to make a case for than using a handgun on a dog. Good luck to the guy that shot the dog.

The question wasn't if one should or shouldn't protect themselves. The question is if a driver could save his job, and the answer is probably not. Not only is it against company policy, it is against most state laws to carry without a license. There are alot of possible mitigating factors that could help you out on the legal aspect, but none that I can think of that would help you keep your job.

[Dizzee]

Originally Posted by Big Babooba

Don't bring the gun to the panel meeting.

Or, at the very least, follow the guidelines.

[MonavieLeaker]

Originally Posted by Livin the Dream?

I'm certain you would get a warning letter, post mortem, stating it was an avoidable accident.

LMAO