What do you do to be "Green"

[brownmonster]

I see UPS went green by having us throw away all the old delivery notices because the new ones take effect 4/23. Maybe they'll recycle the old ones into a nice "Green" calendar that no one will want.

[DS]

Its up to you to decide whats best for you when it comes to preserving the environment.I personally dont care for myself cause I'll be dead when it becomes a problem.This is good for the kids of the world.
Think about them,they are the future.

[speeddemon]

Global Warming is a crock of &^%$.

[rushfan]

True I like their music, but I'm not going to live like them. As mentioned, If I liked Brittney, I sure as hell wouldn't dress like her.

Regarding Alex,

If they were true to being green, He and Geddy sure wouldn't fly their Challenger 600 (CFNEU is the tail number, check it out at www.flightaware.com) to each venue. They would ride the bus, or ride a bike like Neil.

My point is, I still have a choice to be green or not. I will listen to music, watch actors even if I don't like their personal opinions. Just don't force me to do something that's not my religion.

[brownhorn]

Gosh, would it REALLY kill you to do something to help the environment? I mean most of you who poo-poo recycling etc. are conservative, right? Shouldn't you CONSERVE our limited resources? I'm not extremist on this--sorry Sheryl Crow, I gotta use more than one square--but come on, just do some small things and maybe our grandkids can enjoy the earth. Try looking past your own nose and quit being such a drama queen! Jeez!

[1989]

I'm looking for enough green to get a nice big SUV soon. Spread that green to GM or Ford.

[Livin the Dream?]

Originally Posted by brownhorn

Gosh, would it REALLY kill you to do something to help the environment? I mean most of you who poo-poo recycling etc. are conservative, right? Shouldn't you CONSERVE our limited resources? I'm not extremist on this--sorry Sheryl Crow, I gotta use more than one square--but come on, just do some small things and maybe our grandkids can enjoy the earth. Try looking past your own nose and quit being such a drama queen! Jeez!

Name one resource we should conserve that we are not already.

Don't say water - water renews itself.
Don't say trees - there are more trees in the USA now than there were 200 years ago
Don't say Oil - Oil is evil & we should not use it anyway.

Our grandkids will be fine - people adapt

[UPSNewbie]

Originally Posted by brownmonster

I see UPS went green by having us throw away all the old delivery notices because the new ones take effect 4/23. Maybe they'll recycle the old ones into a nice "Green" calendar that no one will want.

That was UPS's whole scheme. Make it ugly, so less people want it, so UPS wont have as many printed. Bam. UPS went green.


I don't limit water usage. We have a well. The well water turns to grey-water after use, which goes to the septic tank, which goes into the leech field, which then seeps back into the aquifer.

I've gone to all CFLs.

I drive my V-8 F-150 only when I need.

I cut down driving, don't fill up the tank, and don't run the lawn equipment when "Ozone Days" are in effect.

[FAVREFAN]

Originally Posted by some1else

that is the bigest enviromentalist crock ever!!! think about it; the "footprint" of him building a NEW green home vs. buying a modest <1000 sq ft existing home. it will be a long time until his home that at most may save 25% will make up for all the back hoes, new streets/sewer etc. etc. that goes into building his new one.

like "Gore burned through 22,619 kWh—guzzling more than twice the electricity in one month than an average American family uses in an entire year." that is with all the latest and greatest "green" technology in contrast my apartment (built 1985) uses under 500kwh monthly and i drive less than 5 miles to work so even though i drive a v-8 "gas guzzler" my footprint is way smaller than his!

its just a load of liberal crap but this time its going to be expensive!!! cap/trade etc...

100% of Al Gore's energy then was purchased from green energy suppliers(Wind/hydro/solar) at 4 times the cost of what we would pay, Nimrod. Look it up. He has since redone his house to produce much of his own power and buys any other power needed from the same green energy suppliers. I can't stand when people spread false information.

[FAVREFAN]

Thanks to all in this thread who have made a conscience effort to show support for this issue.

[covemaster]

Originally Posted by rod

I've slowed down on beer drinking. You've noticed the bottom of the aluminum market has fallen to record lows haven't you.

and your post are more clear !! lol lol lol

[covemaster]

speaking of Global warming!!!!!!!
seperated at birth ????


Potsie & Al Gore ?????

[big_arrow_up]

Originally Posted by FAVREFAN

100% of Al Gore's energy then was purchased from green energy suppliers(Wind/hydro/solar) at 4 times the cost of what we would pay, Nimrod. Look it up. He has since redone his house to produce much of his own power and buys any other power needed from the same green energy suppliers. I can't stand when people spread false information.

Hmmm....I guess that almost makes up for all of the jet fuel that he uses as he's flying around the world to push his new religion on everyone. I also like the idea of carbon credits. Maybe we'll have murder credits next. If we don't like someone we can murder them without punishment as long as we purchase one. Awesome!

[some1else]

Originally Posted by FAVREFAN

100% of Al Gore's energy then was purchased from green energy suppliers(Wind/hydro/solar) at 4 times the cost of what we would pay, Nimrod. Look it up. He has since redone his house to produce much of his own power and buys any other power needed from the same green energy suppliers. I can't stand when people spread false information.

wow me either!

1. assuming thats true he still used the eq. of over 10 times as much than me not 50 times soRRY. and this applies not just to utillities (electric, water) but EVERYTHING has to travel those extra miles to reach the ivory towers of the gore estate. every single item is tainted with all that carbon aaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
2. green power cost 4 times as much lmao!
3.his scheme of selling offset credits doesnt change the fact that his footprint is still 10 times as large as mine. its called fungibility! if he lived modestly like a slightly less narcisicitic hypocrite would he could still buy the same amount of feel good "credits" and have a negative footprint. Think about his scheme logically; reductum ad absurdum everyone in the country buys enough "offset credits" to make their homes/businesses green. no more polution or even NEGATIVE POLLUTION!!!!! NOOO only his "credit" company and the idiots making condor quisanarts will be rolling in the new "green" economy.
4. how much does "carbon" does ups use to deliver to his mansion vs. my apartment complex.
5. how much of a footprint did it make to have contractors come and rip apart his new fortress and replace crap with new manufactured "green" and throw the old "green" out?

and this stuff does matter; enviromental regulations are EXPENSIVE. think about it how much of your twenty thousand dollar car goes towards retarded enviromental **** that just makes it slower.

i know those cats are a waste but they are easy to gut and i do it on every car i have

[rushfan]

Are China, India, and Third world countries green? Maybe in the "eco-tourist" areas of these countries. However, travel outside of the "tourista" section of each of these countries. You will see a mess as I have. Sewage, car batteries, polluting cars and motorcycles in the streets. Trash thrown in the Caribbean Sea. I guess we can blame the oppressive U.S. for their problem, and not their own oppressive governments. One gets sick and tired of those blaming us (particularly the U.S. for the worlds problems).

The U.S. has some of the most stringent environmental rules around. Permits upon permits are required before the first shovel goes into the ground, before the first tree is cut. Gone are the days of uncontrolled mining, gas and oil exploration, clear cutting, etc. Once a city meets EPA emissions standards, they increase the regulations again. When will it end. Classifying CO2 as a deadly gas just put the death knell in the coffin.

I as an outdoors man (rather for those who prefer the p.c. way "outdoors person") have seen some good regulations in place-and some not so good ones. Some good ones-IMHO-Fishing and Game limits, protecting fisheries-habitat for wildlife. Not good ones-The plan on designating areas as off limits to anything-hiking-fishing-hunting-trail riding.

Another is on the Middle Fork of the Salmon River-a river already with controlled access. Every rafting party must pack out their own sewage. So you get an old ammo can and do your duty in it for a week. Never mind the Class 4 and 5 rapids. If you don't secure the "load", it will spill. If it survives the week, you have your own environmental disaster waiting to be cleaned out.

I was into recycling before it was cool. As a kid I collected beer and pop cans for extra money. I garden, so I composted before it was cool. Now it seems to be some passing fad.

So to those who assume I am the biggest polluter on earth, you would be surprised at how much I care for the environment. However, I will not use reusable washcloths and one square of one ply toilet paper to wipe my A#$

[Fenah]

I drive my 16 mpg Truck. IT does wonders to the environment.

[rod]

Originally Posted by rushfan

The U.S. has some of the most stringent environmental rules around. Permits upon permits are required before the first shovel goes into the
Another is on the Middle Fork of the Salmon River-a river already with controlled access. Every rafting party must pack out their own sewage. So you get an old ammo can and do your duty in it for a week. Never mind the Class 4 and 5 rapids. If you don't secure the "load", it will spill. If it survives the week, you have your own environmental disaster waiting to be cleaned out.

Do the fish and wildlife have to pack their crap out also?

[Livin the Dream?]

"... What do you do to be "Green"..."

I try to make sure I put my cigarette butts INSIDE the beercans as I chuck them out the window of my Hummer.

[rod]

YouTube - sesame street - its not easy being green

YouTube - sesame street - its not easy being green

[MonavieLeaker]

Originally Posted by FAVREFAN

True. I am sorry. But they wouldn't want that as a fan. Against what they are about.

Who cares? Unless they pay my bills they can piss off for all I care

[MonavieLeaker]

Originally Posted by Livin the Dream?

"... What do you do to be "Green"..."

I try to make sure I put my cigarette butts INSIDE the beercans as I chuck them out the window of my Hummer.

LMAO

[toonertoo]

I recycle because it makes sense. All cardboard, newspaper, cans, bottles go to the recycle center. I have a bout one bag of trash per week. On the rare occurrence I have a rough week and dont make it there, I cring a "little" when I throw a can in the trash. But for the most part I do it willingly. As far as fuel, I burn wood, trees that need to be cut down, I reuse as fuel. But the log splitter and the chain saw use fuel. I keep lights to a minimum because its so expensive here. I went all electric heat, but I missed signing up for the new rate. So I pay 3 cents more per killowatt hour as my neighbors.

[BLACKBOX]

We have a homeless guy that goes around and checks everyone's trash for recyclable cans and bottles. The first time I saw him going through people's trash and mines I told him look, I'll leave a separate bin on the side of the house for all my cans and bottles and you can have them. Now, neighbors are doing the same for this guy. So it's kind of a win-win situation for all of us.

[some1else]

Originally Posted by toonertoo

I recycle because it makes sense. All cardboard, newspaper, cans, bottles go to the recycle center. I

i still remember my big high school newspaper expose. i got wind that the trash guy for our schoolpicked up the garbage dumpster with his truck put it down. then he went 10 feet over and picked up the paper one and put it right with the trash lmao. this was a "few" years back but the libs in the schools where already preaching this and alot of people flipped out. i would never write that story today; it probably cost that guy his job... or really he lost it himself by being an idiot.

and as far as throwing **** from my 11mpg HAWG i only do it when the kids are on the side of the road picking up **** for community service for their country club or w/e ill empty everything i can reach out the window at em then leave 2 looonnnng rubber tracks lol

[Pump Up The Volume]

Not go to work. Working is anti-green. Work is for losers