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05-13-2009, 03:15 PM
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#1 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 260
Rep Power: 527 | Employee survey cancelled Heard today that the company has axed the annual survey due to the cost. Lets look at the survey from BC posters. Start with Grade 20s, I think they are all ok with fat cat pay and bonus. Now Managers and sups are ok because they get paid no matter what and their jobs are safe because UPS will manage 20 employees with 1 sup or if need to they will manage 5 to 1 to keep them bossing. Next are all of us, the workers that make it happen and the company does not want to hear our thoughts or concerns. |
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05-13-2009, 03:57 PM
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#2 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,431
Rep Power: 4348 | Re: Employee survey cancelled Thank God. What a farce that thing was in the first place. Best idea they've had in years! |
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05-13-2009, 05:25 PM
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#3 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 374
Rep Power: 1499 | Re: Employee survey cancelled Quote:
Originally Posted by Sammie Thank God. What a farce that thing was in the first place. Best idea they've had in years! | They never act on the results anyways.
It was all for show. |
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05-13-2009, 05:29 PM
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#4 | | ModSta in Training
Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Atlanta - Innoplex
Posts: 4,458
Rep Power: 9523 | Re: Employee survey cancelled Quote:
Originally Posted by airbusfxr *** the workers that make it happen and the company does not want to hear our thoughts or concerns. | Your wrong ... it's just your's they don't want to hear.
__________________ Pay no attention to what people say...observe their actions and above all else remember, "It is what it is". Its a fascinating story, but as the Ferangi say, "A good lie is easier to believe than the truth." |
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05-13-2009, 05:33 PM
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#5 | | Moderator
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 1,387
Rep Power: 8054 | Re: Employee survey cancelled Log on to UPSers.com and there is information about the ERI. Although the survey will not encompass all the employees in the past who have participated.
And quite honestly, the threads regarding the ERI were generally negative, so this should be a positive. |
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05-13-2009, 05:48 PM
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#6 | | tiegirl
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 82
Rep Power: 343 | Employee survey cancelled You must be at the top. One of the 'management team' that would be included in the rate your manager part of the survey. Whats wrong can stand another year of being told you suck after you have been such a jerk all year long. What do you expect after you have treated the ones that makes the wheels go round all year long like they are worthless humans only employed by UPS because there was no one else better to hire at the time. Quote:
Originally Posted by Sammie Thank God. What a farce that thing was in the first place. Best idea they've had in years! | |
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05-13-2009, 05:52 PM
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#7 | | ModSta in Training
Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Atlanta - Innoplex
Posts: 4,458
Rep Power: 9523 | Re: Employee survey cancelled Quote:
Originally Posted by airbusfxr *** the workers that make it happen and the company does not want to hear our thoughts or concerns. | Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoaxster Your wrong ... it's just your's they don't want to hear. | Quote:
Originally Posted by tiegirl You must be at the top. One of the 'management team' that would be included in the rate your manager part of the survey. Whats wrong can stand another year of being told you suck after you have been such a jerk all year long. What do you expect after you have treated the ones that makes the wheels go round all year long like they are worthless humans only employed by UPS because there was no one else better to hire at the time. |
OK, I was wrong ... they don't want to hear your's either.
PS - Where you working these days?
__________________ Pay no attention to what people say...observe their actions and above all else remember, "It is what it is". Its a fascinating story, but as the Ferangi say, "A good lie is easier to believe than the truth." |
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05-13-2009, 06:00 PM
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#8 | | Go Chargers!
Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: So Cal
Posts: 1,050
Rep Power: 1359 | Re: Employee survey cancelled Quote:
Originally Posted by tiegirl You must be at the top. One of the 'management team' that would be included in the rate your manager part of the survey. Whats wrong can stand another year of being told you suck after you have been such a jerk all year long. What do you expect after you have treated the ones that makes the wheels go round all year long like they are worthless humans only employed by UPS because there was no one
else better to hire at the time. | Just curious, please don't bite my head off, but why the personal attack against the poster? This is about the ERI that's all. Do you even know the member or what job he/she holds at UPS? Why so bitter?
__________________ When in danger or in doubt, run in circles scream and shout! |
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05-13-2009, 06:23 PM
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#9 | | Disillusioned UPSer
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 701
Rep Power: 1718 | Re: Employee survey cancelled Not familiar with the survey - did they report the results of the survey(s) after they were done?
__________________ It's all just words on a screen......... Too Bad Real Life Doesn't Have An "Ignore List" |
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05-13-2009, 06:27 PM
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#10 | | Senior Member
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 328
Rep Power: 1259 | Re: Employee survey cancelled A few months ago I was messing around on the internet, and (I hardly believe this myself) I came across the results of the most recent ERI survey results for the District where I work, broken down into individual centers. Then those results from each center were broken down into work groups, drivers, feeders, loaders, management, etc. What was really amazing was the huge difference in the replies by management and hourly workers. You know, those questions like, "management treats all the workers with respect", and the managers all answered "AGREE THE MOST" 100%. The survey might have had some value if management had any idea how to use the results. I noticed that the business development department that demands sales leads all the time evoked about as much trust as a used car dealer. I tried to find that again on the net...and it's seemed to vanish. Hmmm.. |
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05-13-2009, 06:39 PM
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#11 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 422
Rep Power: 59 | Re: Employee survey cancelled i know my supervisor always acted like the ERI mattered. he would give a long PCM about it and about how he does the best he can etc...
i dont think he would bother if it didnt save him heartache or money...
the only part i really gave them hell on was when they asked how my 800 is treating me lol |
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05-13-2009, 06:39 PM
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#12 | | CT PACKAGE MONKEY
Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: South New England
Posts: 911
Rep Power: 5772 | Re: Employee survey cancelled The ERI was a joke in the first place. It was a secret ballot that no one took seriously, on either side. It needs to be replaced with a survey that shows what each individual thought. If my name was on the survey, I would be more apt to respond truthfully to all questions. I did this anyways, but management felt most were lying so they gave it little credence.
AND what the hell made this thing cost so much ??????
If it was about paying us to take it, THEN DONT MAKE THE QUESTIONS SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND !!! I have a college education and I still had to reread questions 3 times to figure out what they were asking me. |
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05-13-2009, 06:52 PM
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#13 | | intrnt=srsbsns
Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: JAX 3229
Posts: 1,244
Rep Power: 3172 | Re: Employee survey cancelled Quote:
Originally Posted by Livin the Dream? Not familiar with the survey - did they report the results of the survey(s) after they were done? | It's basically a survey for hourlies to see how they feel about the company......Here they had the results shown on a wall near orientation & training
__________________ Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoaxster If it was flooded they would move packages to adjacent centers and reopen once the water receded. | |
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05-13-2009, 07:59 PM
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#14 | | Senior Member
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 328
Rep Power: 1259 | Re: Employee survey cancelled the cost was entirely from paying hourlys to sit at the computer screen and take the survey. Strongly agree, Somewhat agree, don't know, Somewhat disagree, Strongly disagree. Those were the answer options on every question. If you were a driver planning on going into management, then you would choose Strongly Agree to every question. If your on car had chewed your butt for being 39 hundreths over yesterday, and you are going out today with an eleven hour day, and you are driving an old truck from across on the lot because yours was mistakenly spotted in the wrong place, then you will answer, Strongly Disagree to every question. So in a lot of ways, your answers told management about how their stratagies were working. We never got to see any of the results, question by question. It would really take about ten minutes to do the survey...I managed to think about it a lot and drag it out to thirty minutes of overtime...sitting in the bosses nice leather chair. |
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05-13-2009, 08:03 PM
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#15 | | Box Monkey
Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Harrisburg, PA
Posts: 1,690
Rep Power: 6947 | Re: Employee survey cancelled Do you really want to know how I feel about this:
C. Hard to decide
__________________ Who needs family when you've got Brown? |
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05-14-2009, 12:57 AM
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#16 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 1,206
Rep Power: 1727 | Re: Employee survey cancelled They have no desire to spend a lot of money to quantify how low our morale is. Our morale is a not an issue that matters to anyone in management. |
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05-14-2009, 07:46 AM
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#17 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: The land that God forgot...the Midwest
Posts: 1,063
Rep Power: 5432 | Re: Employee survey cancelled That's OK. They'll find something else for me to get my 45 min of O/T in place of ERI. |
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05-14-2009, 09:35 AM
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#18 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 422
Rep Power: 59 | Re: Employee survey cancelled Quote:
Originally Posted by raceanoncr That's OK. They'll find something else for me to get my 45 min of O/T in place of ERI. | u guys have more guts then me i only took 20minutes on it and felt like i was milking it pretty god lol |
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05-14-2009, 12:10 PM
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#19 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 1,268
Rep Power: 9345 | Re: Employee survey cancelled I haven't taken the ERI in 3 years. Every year they have it I never get asked to take it. Doesn't really matter to me anyhow because they ignore our concerns as well as the results anyway. |
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05-14-2009, 02:50 PM
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#20 | | ModSta in Training
Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Atlanta - Innoplex
Posts: 4,458
Rep Power: 9523 | Re: Employee survey cancelled Quote:
Originally Posted by brett636 I haven't taken the ERI in 3 years. Every year they have it I never get asked to take it. Doesn't really matter to me anyhow because they ignore our concerns as well as the results anyway. | Actually, they have changed the questions so the results are not as bad.
We are a company of numbers so if the answers are negative ... remove or change the question.
Numbers have been improving since we started this approach.
__________________ Pay no attention to what people say...observe their actions and above all else remember, "It is what it is". Its a fascinating story, but as the Ferangi say, "A good lie is easier to believe than the truth." |
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05-14-2009, 03:03 PM
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#21 | | Preload Supervisor
Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: WORMA 0169
Posts: 1,040
Rep Power: 6941 | Re: Employee survey cancelled Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoaxster Actually, they have changed the questions so the results are not as bad.
We are a company of numbers so if the answers are negative ... remove or change the question.
Numbers have been improving since we started this approach. | what an unexpected trend
__________________ "...and if it doesn't work, we'll always think it should've" |
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05-14-2009, 03:33 PM
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#22 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 2,055
Rep Power: 6041 | Re: Employee survey cancelled After some investigating, I have found out the reason they are not implementing the survey is because management has determined that morale is at an all time high and that all procedures are perfect and therefore it would be a waste of money to find out what they already know and to try to improve on perfection.
__________________ for all you boston fans, that there avatar is a picture of Mookie Wilson running the basepaths while Bill Buckner seems to be having a hard time with a ground ball, probably happened in a meaningless exhibition game, so no harm. |
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05-14-2009, 03:39 PM
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#23 | | Moderator
Join Date: May 2005 Location: Atlanta area
Posts: 3,266
Rep Power: 12190 | Re: Employee survey cancelled Pickup, thats great news! I got "appointed" to my Center's ERI Committee about a year and a half ago, and we haven't had one since. I'm glad that my committee has done such a great job of not doing anything. |
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05-14-2009, 03:48 PM
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#24 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 2,055
Rep Power: 6041 | Re: Employee survey cancelled Quote:
Originally Posted by scratch Pickup, thats great news! I got "appointed" to my Center's ERI Committee about a year and a half ago, and we haven't had one since. I'm glad that my committee has done such a great job of not doing anything.  | Keep up the great work!
__________________ for all you boston fans, that there avatar is a picture of Mookie Wilson running the basepaths while Bill Buckner seems to be having a hard time with a ground ball, probably happened in a meaningless exhibition game, so no harm. |
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05-14-2009, 04:47 PM
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#25 | | tiegirl
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 82
Rep Power: 343 | Employee survey cancelled You are right. Did not mean for that to be a personal attack. Afterall I do not even know who I was talking to. Just venting I guess. Why so bitter? You do not get a good feeling to work as hard as I work really putting my heart into what I do to take care of UPS customers only to be told how bad I am. That I should have said this instead of that. That I need to say things to accounts that I have long said to them and already know the answer. Being treated like a child. Being treated everyday like it is my 1st day at work. Just so someone can justify their 6 figure salary. You get tired of it after awhile. Bitter? Yeah the economy does not make it any better to find employment else where. At least for right now. Quote:
Originally Posted by fethrs Just curious, please don't bite my head off, but why the personal attack against the poster? This is about the ERI that's all. Do you even know the member or what job he/she holds at UPS? Why so bitter? | |
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