Hammered with overtime? - Page 2 - Brown Cafe

raceanoncr · 05-19-2009, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by sx2703

If you don't like it why don't you all quit? There are plenty of people that would take your job and not endlessly whine about it.

(Sniff, sniff) I'm sorry. You're right. I forgot about the plenty of people that would take my job and all the starving kids in China too. (Sniff, sniff). I'll quit whining, I promise, MOM!

trplnkl · 05-19-2009, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by beentheredonethat

So let me get this straight, if neither the Teamsters nor the company give in. Then the company doesn't have integrity. I don't know all the details of your grievance, and you very well may have a valid point. But, I think it's funny that people say the company has no integrity when it doesn't change course, doesn't back down, keeps saying the same thing over and over. To me, a company that does back down, a company that says one thing then changes their mind, is the one with no integrity.

You tell me, what would you call it if you made a deal with me, signed your name to the agreement and then proceeded to violate that agreement? Instead of doing as you agreed, you choose to make up new rules as you go along to avoid your part, even though I have pointed out to you in writing that you are not doing as promised.

What would you call it if I refused to pay you an amount of money that we both agreed that I owed you?

slantnosechevy · 05-19-2009, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by trplnkl

You tell me, what would you call it if you made a deal with me, signed your name to the agreement and then proceeded to violate that agreement? Instead of doing as you agreed, you choose to make up new rules as you go along to avoid your part, even though I have pointed out to you in writing that you are not doing as promised.

What would you call it if I refused to pay you an amount of money that we both agreed that I owed you?

Well said. I had a discussion with a Mngr. about integrity a few years back. All I asked was why is it ok for the company to lie to drivers on a daily basis but a dischargable offense when a driver lies to you. He said,"that's just business. We do it to better the company." He was fired for insubordination a couple years later. 6 months after that he went to jail for stealing a womans purse. I guess the company does have some integrity.

UPSNewbie · 05-19-2009, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by sx2703

Or a way to get out of doing your job because you are a lazy "whatchamacallit"?

So you're saying that the company not following the contract they agreed on is OK?

I somehow doubt that you could do half the job those drivers do.

[sarcasm]Yep. Working 10 hours every day = lazy.[/sarcasm]

dilligaf · 05-19-2009, 12:34 PM

[QUOTE=UPSNewbie;534169]So you're saying that the company not following the contract they agreed on is OK?

I somehow doubt that you could do half the job those drivers do.

[sarcasm]Yep. Working 10 hours every day = lazy.[/sarcasm][/QUOTE]
That is great. I wonder if Cheryl can put this on the task bar (sarcasm quote). LOL

UpstateNYUPSer · 05-19-2009, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Numbers

Overtime is Overtime...nothing has changed...it was the same thing 35 years ago. Drivers always complained including me but, lets put a twist on this. If you had no overtime how would that affect your lifestyle economically. How many things would you not be able to afford anymore. Just asking.

...and that is one of the reasons are country is in the state it is now, people living beyond their means. I live based on a 40 hour work week and any overtime I get is gravy.

trplnkl · 05-19-2009, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by UpstateNYUPSer

...and that is one of the reasons are country is in the state it is now, people living beyond their means. I live based on a 40 hour work week and any overtime I get is gravy.

don't do it....but I gotta do it....I'm telling you don't do it.....but I gotta....well ok...
Hey UpState, don't you mean...and that is one of the reasons OUR country is in the state it is now,...?

hehehe..I did it....

dilligaf · 05-19-2009, 02:48 PM

ZING!..........................

over9five · 05-19-2009, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by trplnkl

don't do it....but I gotta do it....I'm telling you don't do it.....but I gotta....well ok...
Hey UpState, don't you mean...and that is one of the reasons OUR country is in the state it is now,...?

hehehe..I did it....

Wow Upstate, get some sleep, man!

Jones · 05-19-2009, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by UpstateNYUPSer

...and that is one of the reasons are country is in the state it is now, people living beyond their means. I live based on a 40 hour work week and any overtime I get is gravy.

I might have just found my new signature....

UpstateNYUPSer · 05-19-2009, 04:18 PM

M/M Dilli-Tex, you got me.

Over, I meant to ask you. I wandered over to Package Smashers and it's like you are Dr. Jeckyl/Mr. Hyde. Mr. Hyde here on BC and Dr. Jeckyl over there. Are those posts really from you?

Jones--glad I could help you out with your new signature.

partykid · 05-19-2009, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by sx2703

If you don't like it why don't you all quit? There are plenty of people that would take your job and not endlessly whine about it.

I laugh when i hear people say things like this!!! Even more when there are people that say i'll will do your job for half the pay you get...again i laugh!! I would LOVE to see these people that want our job "for less pay" when its 100 degrees outside and its 200 in the back of our truck on an all day Business Route! No dr's 65 Pick up's

Hoaxster · 05-19-2009, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by UpstateNYUPSer

Over, I meant to ask you. I wandered over to Package Smashers and it's like you are Dr. Jeckyl/Mr. Hyde. Mr. Hyde here on BC and Dr. Jeckyl over there. Are those posts really from you?

Better not be Ovah as he is a MOD.
Cheryl makes all MODs sign a form that we will not associate with the competition or post on their sites.
I refused to sign but she put it in my file.
Say it isn't so Ovah!

SKAGITDRIVER · 05-19-2009, 06:31 PM

lets see I started in 85 we worked overtime sure but not in these quanities xmas valentines day mothers day you expected it but I also got done in 8 hours many many times less money sure more time with my family you bet family time is more important than exotic vacations or import cars to me anyways

SKAGITDRIVER · 05-19-2009, 06:35 PM

As for people that want our jobs i used to see them come in at xmas and die like a rat doing half days or 3/4 days at best and when told what a normal day was said impossible most who lasted through peak said never again

brownIEman · 05-19-2009, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by helenofcalifornia

A Fedex driver I know is having his start time pushed back to 10. Fedex- no layoffs-reduced hours. UPS- layoffs-massive hours of OT. Are we really saving a ton of money with this plan?

in a word, yes.

Fedex does not have the benefits costs UPS does, and cutting back hours at UPS would be very limited in it's ability to save the company money- 8 hour guarantee.

brownIEman · 05-19-2009, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by dilligaf

I'm not to far behind you Trp. I will be filing #6 today(I think it's #6, I have so many I have lsot track). This past week I didn't have a 9.5 but it is because I had a 3 day ride along and 2 8 hr requests. LOL I'm sure all will be back to normal this week, at least what the current normal is.

umm, am I reading this right? No offense meant here, but are you telling us that you work under 9.5 when you have a ride along and over 9.5 when you don't?

dino · 05-19-2009, 07:43 PM

Here, we can't go over 9.5 even if it means missed pkgs.

United Parcel ________

sealbasher · 05-19-2009, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DS

I think you guys getting lots of OT are going to miss it when its gone.
Some drivers are down $300 a week and its a big lifestyle change.
I wouldn't be surprised if it went to 9 hrs in the near future.

ive never had so much ot in the first five months,its worse than peak

UPSNewbie · 05-19-2009, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by brownIEman

umm, am I reading this right? No offense meant here, but are you telling us that you work under 9.5 when you have a ride along and over 9.5 when you don't?

I worked at UPS for a short 30 days. However, I would see an on-car sup pulling packages out of a PC with that driver having a ride along for the day. You honestly believe load-massaging doesn't exist?

My source, which would be my eyes, have no bias towards drivers.

dilligaf · 05-19-2009, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by brownIEman

umm, am I reading this right? No offense meant here, but are you telling us that you work under 9.5 when you have a ride along and over 9.5 when you don't?

No offense taken. I was under 9.5 for 3 days for 2 different reasons. 1 because I had 2 8hr requests. 2 because they pulled work off to be under 9.5 for the third day. This was for the week of the OJS.

satellitedriver · 05-19-2009, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by UpstateNYUPSer

M/M Dilli-Tex, you got me.

Over, I meant to ask you. I wandered over to Package Smashers and it's like you are Dr. Jeckyl/Mr. Hyde. Mr. Hyde here on BC and Dr. Jeckyl over there. Are those posts really from you?

Jones--glad I could help you out with your new signature.

There is there and here is here.
Never the twain should meet.
May, Rudyard Kipling forgive me.

over9five · 05-20-2009, 05:28 AM

What is Package Smashers?

trplnkl · 05-20-2009, 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by over9five

What is Package Smashers?

From what I understand, it's primarily a website that pounds UPS for every little mistake we make. I think they also criticize other carriers but not as harsh as UPS.
Google and five...it may make your eyes bug out. LOL

over9five · 05-20-2009, 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by trplnkl

From what I understand, it's primarily a website that pounds UPS for every little mistake we make. I think they also criticize other carriers but not as harsh as UPS.
Google and five...it may make your eyes bug out. LOL

Does it have forums? Upstate must mean someone there has the same name as me?