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Old 05-21-2009, 11:15 AM   #1
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Has anybody heard how UPS and rest of the corporate America handling it since it falls on Saturday. Do we just get the weekend off??
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Old 05-21-2009, 11:23 AM   #2
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Yup, we will just get the weekend off, but we will get paid for it so its a few extra hours on that week's paycheck that can be spent on a few more fireworks this year.
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Not sure if this is true but i was told we will only get sat. and sun. off but will be paid out for the 4th so it will show an extra day on your check I hope this is true
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I will go out on a limb here, but my guess is it will include fireworks, hotdogs, & beer. Not necessarily in that order.
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rumour has it that our building will be shutting down Friday, July 3rd. Much like this past January 2nd.
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It will depend on what our major shippers do.
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Usually we have just Sat and Sunday off but we still get paid the extar holiday pay even though the holiday falls on a Saturday.
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Though the holiday falls on a Saturday, you will be allowed to have Saturday off, due to the 4th of July. Your paychecks will not be affected.
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when a holiday falls on saturday you get no extra day off but you do get holiday pay for the saturday.when it falls on sunday we get monday off.
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July 4th is on Saturday. Does that mean we'll get time and a half for the holiday,being that it would be a 6th punch?
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nope straight pay
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All holidays are paid 8 hours for FT.
IF the majority of America" business are closed on the 3rd, we might shut down but I wouldn't make any plans for that day. An d IF by chance we did shut down for the thrid, it would be without pay.
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again read the contract come on guys. it is 8hrs pay and only the weekend off.
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As Upstate noted in another post,its amazing how many people who work here havn't got a clue about these matters. WAKE UP PEOPLE !!! Oh and while I'm here,where can I get UPS socks & how long till I get to fly the planes?????
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As Upstate noted in another post,its amazing how many people who work here havn't got a clue about these matters. WAKE UP PEOPLE !!! Oh and while I'm here,where can I get UPS socks & how long till I get to fly the planes?????

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I've been told to expect to work on the 4th for Saturday air. If we work, that's time and a half plus holiday pay right?
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I've been told to expect to work on the 4th for Saturday air. If we work, that's time and a half plus holiday pay right?
god i hope so; that will be my 10hour sat at 1.5 + 4hours holiday = 19hours pay vs. 4 hours pay if we dont work! which we wont...
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Come on man!!! Didn't you read the contract? SHEESH....
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Come on man!!! Didn't you read the contract? SHEESH....
I only read 37% of the contract.
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I've been told to expect to work on the 4th for Saturday air. If we work, that's time and a half plus holiday pay right?
What Saturday Air are you delivering that day? The only thing moving that day would be Express Critical, Pre-arranged LTL-Urgent, or contract moves.
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Come on man!!! Didn't you read the contract? SHEESH....
Nope, apparently I haven't. So tell me oh enlightened one, what exactly does the contract say in regards to the 4th of July on a Saturday as it pertains to an air only day? If you can show me where it answers that exact question, then I will make an apology thread and be genuinely apologetic. If you can't, then you're a jackass. I'm gonna look too. Update....I can't find my contract. I'm sorry If I've offended you contract Gods. Please forgive me and don't send me to eternal IBT hell. I'll repent.

Seriously, for you guys who get bent out of shape for a simple question, I feel sorry for the people around you. You have got to be uptight and miserable. Sorry if it's so hard to answer a simple question. The fact of the matter is, it doesn't matter what the contract says. UPS will do what they want and contract be damned. Apologies for the rant, but the holier than thou for reading the contract get really old really fast.
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Nope, apparently I haven't. So tell me oh enlightened one, what exactly does the contract say in regards to the 4th of July on a Saturday as it pertains to an air only day? If you can show me where it answers that exact question, then I will make an apology thread and be genuinely apologetic. If you can't, then you're a jackass. I'm gonna look too. Update....I can't find my contract. I'm sorry If I've offended you contract Gods. Please forgive me and don't send me to eternal IBT hell. I'll repent.

Seriously, for you guys who get bent out of shape for a simple question, I feel sorry for the people around you. You have got to be uptight and miserable. Sorry if it's so hard to answer a simple question. The fact of the matter is, it doesn't matter what the contract says. UPS will do what they want and contract be damned. Apologies for the rant, but the holier than thou for reading the contract get really old really fast.
I agree about your point. You shouldn't be jumped on for asking a question like that. If the answer is that easy, then answer it and move on.

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(j) Holiday Work

When it is necessary to provide air service on holidays, the following
procedure shall be used:


(1) The Employer shall offer this work in seniority order to full-time air
drivers who have worked at least one (1) day that week before offering it to
part-time air drivers.


(2) When the scheduling needs cannot be met using the above provision, the
Employer shall have the right to force part-time air drivers and then full-time
air drivers to work starting in reverse order of seniority. If after
exhausting the above steps scheduling needs are still not met, the Employer
shall offer the work in seniority order within the package driver
classification. If more drivers are still needed the reverse seniority order
concept will be used for package drivers. Package car drivers who work on a
holiday may make a written request for an eight (8) hour guarantee. Such
written request shall be made the last work day prior to the holiday. All time
worked by these drivers on a holiday will be paid at the Supplemental holiday rate.


(3) The scheduling of the support work will be reviewed with the Local Union
prior to the holiday. If the Local Union believes that the Employer has
scheduled an excessive number of support employees, it shall have the right
to appeal directly to the National Air Committee. The National Air
Committee will review the schedule and determine whether the Employer
has scheduled an excessive number of support employees. If it is determined
by the National Air Committee that the Employer worked excessive support
employees, the excessive employees worked shall be paid double-time for
hours worked in addition to their holiday pay.


(4) Air drivers and support employees scheduled on a holiday to ensure air
service to the customer, including time performing incidental work, shall
receive straight-time for all hours worked up to eight (8) hours in addition to
the holiday pay. Overtime provisions shall apply if the employee works over
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