What does "It is what it is" mean to you?

[Hoaxster]

Originally Posted by pickup
It is what it is.

Originally Posted by stevetheupsguy

I highlighted your last phrase because it's not my favorite.

I would not call it my favorite but it is in my signature and within my ability to operate in the real world, it defines the best approach to live in that real world.

I've been around a lot of unhappy people in my life who were stressed out because they can not control the world and make it fit to their model that they think the world should be.

For the most part, I dismiss these people from my consideration and stay away from them as much as possible. If they want to be stressed - so be it. I do not let them pull me into their downward spiral of frustration and angst. JMO

[Jones]

Originally Posted by Hoaxster

walk away since this discussion is a no win situation and does not belong in the workplace. JMO



I would not call it my favorite but it is in my signature and within my ability to operate in the real world, it defines the best approach to live in that real world.

I've been around a lot of unhappy people in my life who were stressed out because they can not control the world and make it fit to their model that they think the world should be.

For the most part, I dismiss these people from my consideration and stay away from them as much as possible. If they want to be stressed - so be it. I do not let them pull me into their downward spiral of frustration and angst. JMO

That actually sounds like an old CM of mine. Problem was, I couldn't stay away from him.
Personally I like the phrase "it is what it is". To me it indicates an acceptance of reality, something which is too often in short supply. Another good one is "You are what you repeatedly do."

[pickup]

IT IS WHAT IT IS. I used it a little differently than hoaxster did. Depends on how you define "is" in my case. It might appear to me one way and it might appear to someone else differently. I couldn't get a handle on it but just like I don't know if there is a pencil or pen in the closed drawer, whatever is there , it is what it is. Is you is or is you not getting what I be saying? Cause I sure as heck aint.

[Hoaxster]

Originally Posted by pickup

IT IS WHAT IT IS. I used it a little differently than hoaxster did. .... I don't know if there is a pencil or pen in the closed drawer, whatever is there , it is what it is.

That is consistent with my usage ... What ever is in the drawer is reality ... if I wanted it to be a pen and it turned out to be a pencil, it is what it is - a pencil.

[pickup]

Originally Posted by Hoaxster

That is consistent with my usage ... What ever is in the drawer is reality ... if I wanted it to be a pen and it turned out to be a pencil, it is what it is - a pencil.

I lost my line of thought in my previous post( I got the dizzie ISsies) I did manage to get one point made and thank you for adding to it hoax. My other point, it is like a parable expressed in the bible. Multiple meanings on multiple levels, but it is what it is to the reader. One thinks it means xyz, the other thinks it means a,b,c. I posted that post about the aborting of less than desireable children(and that designation was made by the parents or mother , not me) and stated it is what is as in you make of it what you will.

[pickup]

Goddarn it Hoax, you started another thread and I didn't even notice it. GENIE, GENIE, get back into the bottle.

[pickup]

YouTube - Bill Clinton Depends on what the meaning of is is

YouTube - Bill Clinton Depends on what the meaning of is is

[dannyboy]

I use it to describe what I am dealing with and what is facing the customer, facts that are not able to be argued with.

Sir, the landscaper put in substandard equipment, equipment that if you want me to fix what is wrong with the pond, we will not be able to reuse. It is what it is.

Now, if you want me to fix the problem, we can, no problem.

So usually when I use it, it deals with what the facts are, they are what they are, unembellished.

Then we work to solve the issues dealing with those facts.

Does that make sense?

d

[tieguy]

I think the expression basically means what it seems to mean.

[pickup]

Originally Posted by dannyboy

I use it to describe what I am dealing with and what is facing the customer, facts that are not able to be argued with.

Sir, the landscaper put in substandard equipment, equipment that if you want me to fix what is wrong with the pond, we will not be able to reuse. It is what it is.

Now, if you want me to fix the problem, we can, no problem.

So usually when I use it, it deals with what the facts are, they are what they are, unembellished.

Then we work to solve the issues dealing with those facts.

Does that make sense?

d

yup.

my friend uses the term in place of "we can agree to disagree" . When he says "it is , what it is" , he means that we can both call it different things and we might both valid points, but in the end, it is what is actually is. Very simple Example: From a distance we might see a writing instrument being used by someone on the second floor by the window. I say it is a pencil, he says it is a pen. We argue back and forth but can't get any closer to prove to the other person what it is . He'll then say "it is what it is"., , partly also because it really ain't that important.

[dilligaf]

I think Danny got it with this quote, "So usually when I use it, it deals with what the facts are, they are what they are, unembellished".

[Hoaxster]

Originally Posted by dilligaf

So usually when I use it, it deals with what the facts are, they are what they are, unembellished".

That explains why my wife does not get this concept.

[dilligaf]

So you haven't coaxed your wife into joining yet?

[Hoaxster]

Originally Posted by dilligaf

So you haven't coaxed your wife into joining yet?

It takes a lot of hoax coaxing to get her to join ... I'll let you know!?!? She will not fly United either.

[dilligaf]

Originally Posted by Hoaxster

It takes a lot of hoax coaxing to get her to join ... I'll let you know!?!? She will not fly United either.

I wonder just how hard you coax. You might have to change some of your postings if she were to read them.

[raceanoncr]

What does any of this have to do with "UPS Discussions" forum? I don't see UPS mentioned in any of these posts. OK, correct me if I'm wrong.

"United Parcel Service related topics"

[dannyboy]

Race

Hoax is a Mod. This is his thread. It is on the UPS forum.

Therefore it is what it is.

For better or worse.

d

[raceanoncr]

Oh, sorry. Maybe I should be a self-appointed MOD. Sorry, again. I'll bow out.

[coldworld]

Originally Posted by Hoaxster

I would not call it my favorite but it is in my signature and within my ability to operate in the real world, it defines the best approach to live in that real world.

I've been around a lot of unhappy people in my life who were stressed out because they can not control the world and make it fit to their model that they think the world should be.

For the most part, I dismiss these people from my consideration and stay away from them as much as possible. If they want to be stressed - so be it. I do not let them pull me into their downward spiral of frustration and angst. JMO

is your signature geared toward work life or life in general????

[Sleeve_meet_Heart]

Impossible is just a big word thrown around by small men who find it easier to live in the world they've been given than to explore the power they have to change it.
Impossible is not a fact. It's an opinion.
Impossible is not a declaration. It's a dare.
Impossible is potential.
Impossible is temporary.
Impossible is nothing

[coldworld]

Originally Posted by Sleeve_meet_Heart

Impossible is just a big word thrown around by small men who find it easier to live in the world they've been given than to explore the power they have to change it.
Impossible is not a fact. It's an opinion.
Impossible is not a declaration. It's a dare.
Impossible is potential.
Impossible is temporary.
Impossible is nothing

sounds like you got this from a ups supervisor....or an adidas ad?!?!

[Sleeve_meet_Heart]

Originally Posted by coldworld

sounds like you got this from a ups supervisor....or an adidas ad?!?!

UPS is something I would never want to venture to prove the impossible, change the system, face judge and jury. But there are times when you do have to challenge authority, to take charge and to butt heads.


and for those who think it is depression or negativity , ....

""It is not the critic who counts: not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself for a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."

[coldworld]

Originally Posted by Sleeve_meet_Heart

UPS is something I would never want to venture to prove the impossible, change the system, face judge and jury. But there are times when you do have to challenge authority, to take charge and to butt heads.

I totally agree.....I think most level headed mgt would agree also.there are times where you have to stand up for yourself and what you think is right no matter what ANYBODY says.

and for those who think it is depression or negativity , ....

""It is not the critic who counts: not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself for a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."

[dannyboy]

Impossible is just a big word thrown around by small men who find it easier to live in

Lemme phrase it to where you can understand it better.

You are running the football. Coach wants you to run it up the middle, over and over and over again, without changing the plays. Every time, it is a zero gain or loss. It is what it is, a lost cause.

But instead you decide on your own to go around. Not only have you met the impossible task head on, you adapted and overcame.

Running it up the middle is still not possible, but wining the game is.

d

[Pump Up The Volume]

"It Is What It Is" to me signifies the futility of not conforming to the norm
It's a statement that removes any independent thought or improvement from an individual or collective group