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Old 06-27-2009, 08:45 PM   #26
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I stay to provide for my family. There are no other jobs around here that comes close to comparing what UPS provides, especially with the limited education I have (GED). I don't have a back up career choice. That being said, I actually like my job. The customer contact and being outdoors all day are better than a cubicle. IMO.
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I stay because I've grown to love my career as a mechanic HERE at UPS. The pay and benefits where never an issue when I got hired, I just wanted a steady pay all year round and wanted off the flat rate pay scale I was getting from the dealers. When I made top rate then I was like " OK, think I like it a lot more now " 65k per year average, not to shabby. I would say that I stay just for my family but that would be lying! I really do like my job. the bennys and pay is just a plus.
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After reading a bunch of negativity towards UPS in other threads it would make any person just stopping in to check things out wonder what makes someone stick around and work for UPS. I know for most, the money is a big incentive, but in the end happiness is what should reallymatter in your job choice. Now while I don't really like working till 7 p.m. some nights, i appreciate my job and the opportunities that UPS has brought to me that I might possibly might not have been given otherwise.

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3 things keep me here at ups.... 1.PENSION 2.PENSION 3.PENSION... otherwise I'd be outta here faster than you can say "bye"... Job takes a terrible toll on my body and I'm tired of dealing with clueless managers who don't care.... My customers are great.....
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Seriously, I have joked with my wife about leaving UPS and her response is always, "Not unless you have something else lined up that pays the same or more."
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I stay to provide for my family. There are no other jobs around here that comes close to comparing what UPS provides, especially with the limited education I have (GED). I don't have a back up career choice. That being said, I actually like my job. The customer contact and being outdoors all day are better than a cubicle. IMO.

Your limited education doesn't/shouldn't hold you back, your'e desire for more does. I can't really point fingers at anybody, especially on this forum, since we are all technically oarsmen on the same boat.

My SIL's was telling me there are guys at his job that make anywhere from $25-$75 per hour and up to 10 weeks vacation (paid) per year and sick and personal days along with benefits and only work M-F normal work hours. I asked him if he coould get me a job and he asked me what I could do. My response, "I can learn to do anything." My point being, all the opportunities in the world are out there for you as long as you want it bad enough to go for it. My 3 year old asked me the other week if she could do something (career) when she was older and with tears in my eyes I told her, "Honey, you can do anything you want."

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Old 06-27-2009, 11:18 PM   #32
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The only reason I stay is to see how it all turns out in the end!!!! Wages are average (Alberta avg wage is 23.90/hr) Benefits are just below avg. Vacation time is avg. Pension is avg at best. But hey I have seniority in my building, work with some fantastic people.
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the sups/mgrs 20years ago were a higher quality. its a good job but the kindergarten politics gets old.
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the sups/mgrs 20years ago were a higher quality. its a good job but the kindergarten politics gets old.

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I stay because at this point there aren't any viable options. The companies that are looking for drivers are the companies that are always looking for drivers. Reason being, poor wages and driver treatment. I'm also past the living in the truck thing. When it comes down to the actual job, this is the best trucking job there is. It's just all the peripheral nonsense that goes along with it that is frustrating. It would be ALOT easier to take if volume was up and work was plentiful.
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The point has been made here on numerous occasions that PTers at UPS are not fairly compensated for the work that they do and can earn comparable wages flipping burgers. The carrot that they dangle of future potential continues to diminish and will diminish further when the dust in 2013 settles and we have a tiered wage system in place. The next 10 years cannot pass quickly enough!
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[QUOTE=UpstateNYUPSer;555002]The point has been made here on numerous occasions that PTers at UPS are not fairly compensated for the work that they do and can earn comparable wages flipping burgers. The carrot that they dangle of future potential continues to diminish and will diminish further when the dust in 2013 settles and we have a tiered wage system in place. The next 10 years cannot pass quickly enough![/QUOTE]


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Rod, you wouldn't recognize the place if you came back. So much (too much) has changed. Customer service has taken a back seat to the bottom line. We have drivers making pickups before the drivers making deliveries. Remember when customers used to be able to set their clocks by us? Now we are like the cable guys--"We'll be there sometime between 9 and 5." Drivers have little input over how their routes are run and catch hell if we break trace to try to dump a bulk stop or make a delivery to a customer we meet on the road.

I'm sure you are right--retirement will be a big adjustment, but it is one that I am already planning for as I hope to substitute teach or perhaps write for our local newspaper. UPS is a means to an end and right now I simply hope to make it to the end. Dave.
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Rod, you wouldn't recognize the place if you came back. So much (too much) has changed. Customer service has taken a back seat to the bottom line. We have drivers making pickups before the drivers making deliveries. Remember when customers used to be able to set their clocks by us? Now we are like the cable guys--"We'll be there sometime between 9 and 5." Drivers have little input over how their routes are run and catch hell if we break trace to try to dump a bulk stop or make a delivery to a customer we meet on the road.

I'm sure you are right--retirement will be a big adjustment, but it is one that I am already planning for as I hope to substitute teach or perhaps write for our local newspaper. UPS is a means to an end and right now I simply hope to make it to the end. Dave.

Damm-----coming back-----thats a scary thought. Having the old "UPS nightmare" once in awhile (dreaming about the delivery day that never ends) is enough for me. I still have a lot of friends at work and between them and the BC I get the picture of how screwed up things have gotten. One friend is retiring in Oct after 31 years as a driver. I always swore he would never give it up because he has such a great route and he loves his overtime $$$$$$$$- always 55 to 60 hrs a week. Anyway he finally confessed that he's fed up with it. The beginning of the end of UPS being a great place to work was when they went public. BIG MISTAKE. I don't belive that management is as clueless as they seem to be---deep down inside they all know they have created a monster.
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..........So much (too much) has changed. Customer service has taken a back seat to the bottom line. We have drivers making pickups before the drivers making deliveries. Remember when customers used to be able to set their clocks by us? Now we are like the cable guys--"We'll be there sometime between 9 and 5."

This sounds almost exactly like what a CUSTOMER was saying to me the other day. I threw in the rest about breaking trace and all that.
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I was thinking the other day when I heard for the 10th time how IMPORTANT it was to get a closed list for July 3rd.

What if remote delivery was still in effect? They would probably try to pile entire loops under the belt for days to see how many routes they could cut.

Uh oh I hope no reads this and decides that would be a good idea.
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After reading a bunch of negativity towards UPS in other threads it would make any person just stopping in to check things out wonder what makes someone stick around and work for UPS. I know for most, the money is a big incentive, but in the end happiness is what should reallymatter in your job choice. Now while I don't really like working till 7 p.m. some nights, i appreciate my job and the opportunities that UPS has brought to me that I might possibly might not have been given otherwise.

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Just like everyone else who answers honestly - for the money.

UPS use to have a management workshop back in the 80's called People's Workshop. One of the exercises was to discuss whether people work for the Money, Self-Fulfillment or some other BS reason. It was always "for the money" with just a few starry-eyed romantics going for the other options. The exercise was helpful in identifying the people that worked at UPS who were goobers. UPS is no HP.

Qualification: I had not worked in an office environment at that point ... might be a little more PC now, but probably not.
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You do know that we are talking about UPS, right??
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