Why do you stay?

[Hoaxster]

Originally Posted by dilligaf

I never said their jobs weren't dangerous especially when there are stupid people doing stupid things (Danny please forgive me for saying it, I know you were not doing something stupid). Any job can be dangerous. I said that we have far more responsibility. We are paid at a higher standard and we are held to a higher standard. Don't take my words out of context.

Originally Posted by Mike23

Sorry, didn't mean to take your words out of context I did make the point in my post though to show their job IS as responsible as ours. If you're building a house and the contracts late it = lost money for the company and cranky sups. It also means the people can't move into their new house so it costs them extra $$$ so = cranky customers.

Not to mention cranky posters.

[Mike23]

Originally Posted by Hoaxster

Not to mention cranky posters.

Who's a cranky poster? I'm too drunk to be cranky, darnit!

[dilligaf]

Originally Posted by Mike23

Sorry, didn't mean to take your words out of context I did make the point in my post though to show their job IS as responsible as ours. If you're building a house and the contracts late it = lost money for the company and cranky sups. It also means the people can't move into their new house so it costs them extra $$$ so = cranky customers.

I do not agree with you. You talk about contracts and people moving into houses. The responsibility of the house being completed falls to the contractor not the laborer. You are comparing apples and oranges. If someone can't move into their house for a week they will live. We are out there everyday being responsible for, literally, millions of dollars worth of product. We are responsible for our driving habits which may or may not put someones life in jeopardy. Do not tell me that they deserve the same pay I get for my professionalism. I do concede that the union has provided a great deal of benefit to me, but I have earned every dime of it.

[Baba gounj]

Originally Posted by dilligaf

I do not agree with you. You talk about contracts and people moving into houses. The responsibility of the house being completed falls to the contractor not the laborer. You are comparing apples and oranges. If someone can't move into their house for a week they will live. We are out there everyday being responsible for, literally, millions of dollars worth of product. We are responsible for our driving habits which may or may not put someones life in jeopardy. Do not tell me that they deserve the same pay I get for my professionalism. I do concede that the union has provided a great deal of benefit to me, but I have earned every dime of it.

[dbrownstaininmypants]

Originally Posted by BLACKBOX

Unlike most jobs time doesn't drag on. You have something that really fills your work day and somedays I'm surprised how quickly Friday comes around.

I also love the fact you only see your supes in the morning and hardly when you get back.

love the only fact you see your sups in the morning just watch out during the day they are seeing you work even though you dont see them

[Mike23]

Originally Posted by dilligaf

I do not agree with you. You talk about contracts and people moving into houses. The responsibility of the house being completed falls to the contractor not the laborer. You are comparing apples and oranges. If someone can't move into their house for a week they will live. We are out there everyday being responsible for, literally, millions of dollars worth of product. We are responsible for our driving habits which may or may not put someones life in jeopardy. Do not tell me that they deserve the same pay I get for my professionalism. I do concede that the union has provided a great deal of benefit to me, but I have earned every dime of it.

I'm not disagreeing that you haven't earned every penny of it. I'm saying they should get paid better too.

If a company can't move into a building when it's supposed to be built, who's to say it's not going to suffer a million dollars worth of lost product because they stopped shipping a week earlier? Also the contractor (a lot of times) is also the laborer.

Construction workers are also responsible for peoples lives. Their management constantly is telling them to do 'shady' things (dig closer to the electrical wire, etc...). It's just like us. A low educated job with higher ups trying to put the squeeze on. By low educated I'm not saying we're idiots BTW I'm just saying it doesn't take a lot of brain power to do what we do once you get into the flow of it.

We'll never agree with each other though...So how about a hug?

[stevetheupsguy]

Originally Posted by dbrownstaininmypants

love the only fact you see your sups in the morning just watch out during the day they are seeing you work even though you dont see them

Which doesn't matter if you're doing the job the way it's supposed to be done.

[Conan04]

Originally Posted by NHDRVR

This job is a soap opera if you let it become one.

My truck is parked between the 2 most polar opposite drivers you could ever encounter. The gentleman to my right, and he is a gentleman, is a man of few words, involved in his church, a 'great' guy to b.s. with in the morning and he honestly does not carry any baggage with him as it pertains to this job. Yes, he is tired as I am at the end of the week but it isn't a mental grind for him other than the general day to day that is in every career. He is quick with a joke (Billy Joel is on the radio right now...) and is also quick to help the new guys if they ask. He is never, never, ever, one to stand on a soap box and bitch and moan about his job. He knows what he signed up for. (He has about 25 years in or so and I have known him for about 15 of those)

The guy on my left, here we go. He has a horrible attitude, although he makes you laugh when he complains, he is still clearly frustrated as if he had no idea when he worked 7 years part time what the driving gig was all about. He has been fired/working terminations on 2 different occasions, complaints up the wazoo and every week is a new chapter in the aforementioned soap opera.

You are so right that IF you let this job become a soap opera it will.

Another question is how many of us do either A) engage in the drama or B) keep your head down and just try to coast out the door every day.

I choose B.

I choose B at least 90% of the time.

[Bubblehead]

Originally Posted by Conan04

I choose B at least 90% of the time.

That's why you and the rest of the lemmings (the B team) continue to get more of the same, day after day, after day, after day...

I'm interested in the other 10% of your time.

[morgahorse]

It gets me out of the house.
I'd go nuts if I had to work in a cubicle, couldn't sit still all day long.
Love working outdoors, even in the winter.
I've worked worse jobs.
And of course the money and benefits.

[SoCalUPS858]

I stay because I like the money. Love working outside and not having my sup over my shoulder every min of every day. I started at ups when I was still in High school. I was hired 2 weeks after I turned 18. They tell me I can retire after 25 years but I don't think I will The sups are annoying but like everyone on here says they don't stay around for long also they always find someone else to mess with after a couple weeks everyone has to take a turn.

[NHDRVR]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead

That's why you and the rest of the lemmings (the B team) continue to get more of the same, day after day, after day, after day...

I'm interested in the other 10% of your time.

Lemming?? I choose to not play the game every day. I have been here far too long to get sucked into the drama that is 'oh my truck is loaded'-'oh my stop count is too high' - oh I'm sick of being over 9/5'

That's not being a lemming. That is simply finding what works for me to get my butt out of the door without so much as a raised eyebrow. When you figure that out, you will be doing it too...

[jennie]

Originally Posted by Hoaxster

Just like everyone else who answers honestly - for the money.

UPS use to have a management workshop back in the 80's called People's Workshop. One of the exercises was to discuss whether people work for the Money, Self-Fulfillment or some other BS reason. It was always "for the money" with just a few starry-eyed romantics going for the other options. The exercise was helpful in identifying the people that worked at UPS who were goobers. UPS is no HP.

Qualification: I had not worked in an office environment at that point ... might be a little more PC now, but probably not.

As I started late in life at UPS so its not all about money for me but I stay now, because everyday is different and again its something I never thought I would do, and I don't have to get all dressed up, which is so easy in the morning

[BrOwN_PrIdE]

I work in Preload and I stay for:

1. the workout
2. the full medical benefits for part-time work
3. I get recognized for my hard work.
4. I don't really have to work with anybody.