minimum wage

[thelus]

well today the state of Illinois minimum wage goes up to $8.00. good to know part timers get hired only 50 cents more and also don't get benefits till a year. talk about under paid slaves

[upser_J]

ummm with the unemployment rate approaching 10%, any job you can get you prolly shouldn't complain... I'm sure there are a bunch of auto workers getting laid off hoping they can find a minimum wage job now to keep their family afloat. I guess the best advice I can give you, and probably the majority of the people on here (though I don't speak for them) would be, if you don't like it, its your choice to work here, you can leave.

[komokazi]

Well, at UPS you get raises more often than most part time jobs..

I've gone from 8.50 an hour to 12.30 in just 2 years.

[Hoaxster]

Originally Posted by thelus

well today the state of Illinois minimum wage goes up to $8.00. good to know part timers get hired only 50 cents more and also don't get benefits till a year. talk about under paid slaves

Too bad the greedy full-timers are not willing to give up a little to help their part-time brothers.

[rod]

Originally Posted by Hoaxster

Too bad the greedy full-timers are not willing to give up a little to help their part-time brothers.

And while they are at it they could throw a little to us poor retired souls-- we haven't recieved a penny from Obama yet

[wrecker]

Most of us "greedy full timers" were part time for crap money. Although minimum wage was 4.25 when I got hired at 8.00.

[brownrodster]

Originally Posted by Hoaxster

Too bad the greedy full-timers are not willing to give up a little to help their part-time brothers.

Perhaps I'm one of the few drivers that thinks 30$ an hour for this job is absurd. I'd gladly give my raise to the PTers in the next contract.

Minimum wage in my state is 8.60$ or something.

[feederdriver06]

I cant believe UPS even has a part time work force. I started on the preload in 1989 at 8.00 an hour. I got my benefits 30 days later. The minimum wage then was probably at 4.00 or a little less. Today, 20 years later, the part timers start at 8.50 which is just cents above minimum wage. And their benefits don't come for at least 6 months might even be a year. The company doesnt deserve the part time people it has that are working for peanuts. They also should be ashamed of themselves for not having kept up with 20 years of inflation.

But the greedy management teams could offer up a paycut and help out the part time people. Sounds fair enough to me.

[evilleace]

The porter in my hub told me when he got hired on in 85 he started at $9 an hr which was 3x what minimum wage was then. I started at $8.50 last yr how is it that I am making less than he did 20 yrs ago for the same job. I UPS had kept the wage scale up then pt would be making $18-20 an hr. I just don't understand why they used to pay that but the union let them get away with keeping the rate the same for 25 yrs.

[Sleeve_meet_Heart]

Originally Posted by FedEX 4 Life

fedex starting pay by me is $17.00 an hr and FULL benefits but it will take you like 15 years to reach top pay.

Show me/us?

[dilligaf]

Originally Posted by FedEX 4 Life

Show you what?

A pay stub.

[Sleeve_meet_Heart]

Originally Posted by FedEX 4 Life

Show you what?

Show us proof that fed-ex hires part-time employees NON-DRIVERS/DOT for 17/hr with full benes.

A fed-ex job ad, a paystub, anything.

[MechanicForBrown]

Originally Posted by Hoaxster

Too bad the greedy full-timers are not willing to give up a little to help their part-time brothers.

Hoax, remember " It Is What It Is "

[Sleeve_meet_Heart]

Originally Posted by FedEX 4 Life

um I cant do that.I know that the starting pay is 17 an hr.I am at top pay.This is for a driver position.A loader and CSA agent make less.Im sure some of the other Fedex guys can chime in and back me up.
I work in NYC

FT drivers pay, though that is NOT what the discussion was about lol

Start $16.10
Seniority (30 working days) $17.25
Twelve (12) months $18.45
Twenty-four (24) months $20.75
Thirty-six (36)months (current top rate

[whiskey]

Originally Posted by Hoaxster

Too bad the greedy full-timers are not willing to give up a little to help their part-time brothers.

Clearly, since inside part timers work 3 times as hard as full timers, they should receive $90 dollars an hour. Now that's a no brainer.

[upser_J]

Originally Posted by whiskey

Clearly, since inside part timers work 3 times as hard as full timers, they should receive $90 dollars an hour. Now that's a no brainer.

hahahaha, perhaps you would work a lot less "hard" if you were working 8+ hours everyday, or showed up half the time!

[bubsdad]

It is the nature of the beast. Take from the bottom and give to the top. Why do you think drivers are making as much as we do? It isn't because UPS is generous. It is because the people who actually show up to vote are the people that benefit from the wage increases. They couldn't care less about the people who are not gaining from new contracts as long as they get their raises. That's why p/t wages and benefits are a joke and why the progression for f/t keeps expanding in length. I tried to point out some of the bad deals in this contract but all I got was, "Oh well, That doesn't affect me".

[JustTired]

First off....I think $8.50/hr is a ridiculously low figure for the amount of work performed (in comparison to other PT jobs).

Having said that....here is my theory.
There are two types of people seeking these jobs. The first is the student who is looking for some spending money or money to help out his parents in paying for that schooling. Still covered under his parents insurance with no need for his/her own. The second is someone who is self employed or working another job without benefit coverage. To them the coverage is the most important part of their compensation.

I still don't see why the company can't offer a choice that would benefit both type of workers. There could be a choice at the time of employment where the employee could choose whether they want the benefit pkg or not. Those that don't need it would receive a little more hourly wage compensation. If later the situation changed, they would have a 1-time chance to reverse that decision.

I'm sure that ideally the company would like to choose the student over the non-student employee, but in some areas it might not be possible. And if I were a student, the choice between flipping burgers or busting my tail moving pkgs for the same amount of money, would be a no-brainer. For the non-student employee, the benefits pkg is most likely the attraction, not the hourly wage. JMO

[tramtwo]

Well lets just see...

YTD Pay (JUST went over a year)

Hrs 269.48 Pay 2,705.19 about 10 bucks an hour

Three trips to the Dentist Cost $425 Paid $24 Net $401
I'm up to $11.50 an hour...

Lets see complete physical including blood work and in office procedure
Cost $807 paid $42 Net $765

I’m up to about $14.37 an hour…

Now lets see..

Three prescriptions Cost $450 Paid $60 Net $390

I’m up to $15.81 an hour

Now lets not forget about the $20 a month discount for cell phone YTD $120 and health club dues discount YTD $270

That puts me at $17.25 an hour…

These are rough numbers… we could figure in several more factors that would raise the number some… (vacation, holidays, education benefits, vision, retail cost savings...)

I bust my hump… but am very grateful… not a bad deal for UPS either it cost them about .04 a package to pay me for my services…

[mungrin]

Originally Posted by tramtwo

Well lets just see...

YTD Pay (JUST went over a year)

Hrs 269.48 Pay 2,705.19 about 10 bucks an hour

Three trips to the Dentist Cost $425 Paid $24 Net $401
I'm up to $11.50 an hour...

Lets see complete physical including blood work and in office procedure
Cost $807 paid $42 Net $765

I’m up to about $14.37 an hour…

Now lets see..

Three prescriptions Cost $450 Paid $60 Net $390

I’m up to $15.81 an hour

Now lets not forget about the $20 a month discount for cell phone YTD $120 and health club dues discount YTD $270

That puts me at $17.25 an hour…

These are rough numbers… we could figure in several more factors that would raise the number some… (vacation, holidays, education benefits, vision, retail cost savings...)

I bust my hump… but am very grateful… not a bad deal for UPS either it cost them about .04 a package to pay me for my services…

I dont get your Math.You are factoring benefits into your hourly wage?

Dude,huge fail.

[tramtwo]

value added... it is the total compensation I receive for services rendered...

stiill only take home a hundred bucks a week... but it is more that enough to pay the note on my Fatboy...

[mungrin]

Originally Posted by tramtwo

value added... it is the total compensation I receive for services rendered...

stiill only take home a hundred bucks a week... but it is more that enough to pay the note on my Fatboy...

Well not everyone is rich like you!!

[whiskey]

Originally Posted by tramtwo

Well lets just see...

YTD Pay (JUST went over a year)

Hrs 269.48 Pay 2,705.19 about 10 bucks an hour

Three trips to the Dentist Cost $425 Paid $24 Net $401
I'm up to $11.50 an hour...

Lets see complete physical including blood work and in office procedure
Cost $807 paid $42 Net $765

I’m up to about $14.37 an hour…
I added in your 6 weeks vacation and now your at $61.75/hour.
Now lets see..

Three prescriptions Cost $450 Paid $60 Net $390

I’m up to $15.81 an hour

Now lets not forget about the $20 a month discount for cell phone YTD $120 and health club dues discount YTD $270

That puts me at $17.25 an hour…

These are rough numbers… we could figure in several more factors that would raise the number some… (vacation, holidays, education benefits, vision, retail cost savings...)

I bust my hump… but am very grateful… not a bad deal for UPS either it cost them about .04 a package to pay me for my services…

[softshoe]

Originally Posted by Hoaxster

Too bad the greedy full-timers are not willing to give up a little to help their part-time brothers.

Too bad the the greedy supervisors/managers are not willing to give up a little to help their hard working ,under paid, part timers.

[upsguy72]

If you don't like starting out PT and making hardly anything GO FIND ANOTHER JOB. There are plenty of people out there that will take your place and put in ther time as a PT for the oportunity to be a driver down the road