Local 2727 UPDATE - Page 45 - Brown Cafe

airbusfxr · Today, 08:03 AM

I will not take a pay cut, pay for health care, give up one penny of retro, or give my work away. Hoffa and Bourne and Combine can either get me a fair contract or we can wait till Oct and Joe will either get one or we will strike next peak. UPS's NDA and Int brought in alot of money last quarter and with the airline making money it is in "the company's" best interest to settle this. I know that Leikites rather deal with Combine but if he keeps dragging his feet, he will meet up with Joe and Jack next Oct.

unionman · Today, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by airbusfxr

I will not take a pay cut, pay for health care, give up one penny of retro, or give my work away. Hoffa and Bourne and Combine can either get me a fair contract or we can wait till Oct and Joe will either get one or we will strike next peak. UPS's NDA and Int brought in alot of money last quarter and with the airline making money it is in "the company's" best interest to settle this. I know that Leikites rather deal with Combine but if he keeps dragging his feet, he will meet up with Joe and Jack next Oct.

Oct? We are settling this now not next year.

airbusfxr · Today, 08:48 AM

Do you think Leikites and Johnson will settle this? Both of these guys are on Santas naughty list (not the first time either) and would rather try all the tricks instead of giving us a contract. When Rick Barr and Leikites stalled the pilots it took the WSJ and USAToday ads to move them off the stack-0-money in the vault. I have stated before, the pilots left many dollars in the pile and it is ours for payment of all the work we have provided to make sure that customers have on time service commitments. We have helped UPS rake it in now it is time to reward us for our service to our customers.

unionman · Today, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by airbusfxr

Do you think Leikites and Johnson will settle this? Both of these guys are on Santas naughty list (not the first time either) and would rather try all the tricks instead of giving us a contract. When Rick Barr and Leikites stalled the pilots it took the WSJ and USAToday ads to move them off the stack-0-money in the vault. I have stated before, the pilots left many dollars in the pile and it is ours for payment of all the work we have provided to make sure that customers have on time service commitments. We have helped UPS rake it in now it is time to reward us for our service to our customers.

I have to believe that we will be released ,if not this week, soon... Why can't we bring more work inhouse? there moving the 757 s.i.p work out of MAE because of poor workmanship. Well no *****. You get what you pay for, and a bunch of guys that can't speak english can't do a very good job. The funny thing is, they would rather bounce the work from one ***** hole to the next, than to get it done right with some control over it.

Dis-organized Labor · Today, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by ACE

You're either posting at work or your home business is way down. You sure can find time to keep beating us down, must not be too busy.

'Winter, General Winter is coming, and he will force Germany to her knees.' But, unfortunately, the German people are 'winter-proof.' German history has passed through I do not know how many tens of thousands of winters. We will get through this one, too.
-Adolf Hitler

Bingo!

Dis-organized Labor · Today, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by SKYKING BIRDMAN

Joe Petroni the greatest mechanic in aviation history! Petroni would chew up DOL and spit his out!

Why are you picking on me?

JETDOC · Today, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by unionman

I have to believe that we will be released ,if not this week, soon... Why can't we bring more work inhouse? there moving the 757 s.i.p work out of MAE because of poor workmanship. Well no *****. You get what you pay for, and a bunch of guys that can't speak english can't do a very good job. The funny thing is, they would rather bounce the work from one ***** hole to the next, than to get it done right with some control over it.

You are not listening what skyking is saying, it's over, we have a contract. It will be ratified in Jan. Finally, the company realized what you've been saying all along. We don't need them, they need us.
UPS now knows that they would have never made it through the past 100 years without the 2727. I can't wait for next contract negotiations.

poiuy · Today, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by unionman

I have to believe that we will be released ,if not this week, soon... Why can't we bring more work inhouse? there moving the 757 s.i.p work out of MAE because of poor workmanship. Well no *****. You get what you pay for, and a bunch of guys that can't speak english can't do a very good job. The funny thing is, they would rather bounce the work from one ***** hole to the next, than to get it done right with some control over it.

So... you've been laid off and you want the company to bring more work in house so you can get your job back. But... your "Brothers and Sisters," who still have jobs are protesting by NOT doing (slow walking, over inspecting etc) the work that they still have. Why should the company bring MORE work in? So your "Brothers and Sisters" can NOT do more work???
They're sending the work to people who want to do it, and they don't have to put up with morons who think that because they show up and pay union dues they're entitled to something.

Dis-organized Labor · Today, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by poiuy

So... you've been laid off and you want the company to bring more work in house so you can get your job back. But... your "Brothers and Sisters," who still have jobs are protesting by NOT doing (slow walking, over inspecting etc) the work that they still have. Why should the company bring MORE work in? So your "Brothers and Sisters" can NOT do more work???
They're sending the work to people who want to do it, and they don't have to put up with morons who think that because they show up and pay union dues they're entitled to something.

Please do not call my friends morons.
The vast majority of the AMT's are good guys that just do the best they can and try to manage the frustration (as we all do).
Calling them names just starts a bunch of crap and everybody goes away unhappy.
It's actually more fun to get good info off BC and throw some humor out

unionman · Today, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by poiuy

So... you've been laid off and you want the company to bring more work in house so you can get your job back. But... your "Brothers and Sisters," who still have jobs are protesting by NOT doing (slow walking, over inspecting etc) the work that they still have. Why should the company bring MORE work in? So your "Brothers and Sisters" can NOT do more work???
They're sending the work to people who want to do it, and they don't have to put up with morons who think that because they show up and pay union dues they're entitled to something.

nobody is slowing down or over inspecting. the company has never believed in doing any maintenance. no hangers, not even a C check, its a virtual airline maintenance wise. do you know of ANY airline that doesn't do at least a C check? More work, huh, UPS doesnt do any maintenance.

Dis-organized Labor · Today, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by unionman

nobody is slowing down or over inspecting. the company has never believed in doing any maintenance. no hangers, not even a C check, its a virtual airline maintenance wise. do you know of ANY airline that doesn't do at least a C check? More work, huh, UPS doesnt do any maintenance.

Actually, airlines douing their own Heavy Checks is becoming a thing of the past due to high overhead. There is a large white building very close to the ATC Tower with a big UPS logo on it and a bunch of airplanes (MD-11's) usually parked out front.

ACE · Today, 11:19 AM

YouTube- 2727 Hotline

Just as the Jew could once incite the mob of Jerusalem against Christ, so today he must succeed in inciting folk who have been duped into madness to attack those who, God's truth! seek to deal with this people in utter honesty and sincerity.
-Adolf Hitler, in Munich, 28 July 1922

Dis-organized Labor · Today, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by ACE

YouTube- 2727 Hotline

Just as the Jew could once incite the mob of Jerusalem against Christ, so today he must succeed in inciting folk who have been duped into madness to attack those who, God's truth! seek to deal with this people in utter honesty and sincerity.
-Adolf Hitler, in Munich, 28 July 1922

YOU ARE AWESOME!!!
I think you deserve some Positive ep from me!!!

unionman · Today, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Dis-organized Labor

Actually, airlines douing their own Heavy Checks is becoming a thing of the past due to high overhead. There is a large white building very close to the ATC Tower with a big UPS logo on it and a bunch of airplanes (MD-11's) usually parked out front.

All airlines do C checks and FEDX has two hangers in Memphis two hangers in Indy and one in L.A. They have there own avionics shop and they do C checks, they have been bringing in heavy work because every airline is starting to realize that its actually less expensive to do it inhouse because there is no quality work out there. I know, ive seen it, and it aint pretty.

SKYKING BIRDMAN · Today, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by unionman

Oct? We are settling this now not next year.

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mrv · Today, 04:59 PM

Another inspirational hotline message. Wonder why the E-board had the secratary give it... not man enough to talk on the hotline? As our members are being terminated trying to give UPS a November to Remember, Combine and his boys sit behind closed doors unwilling and unable to protect our membership as UPS continues its terror campaign.

These clowns have brought nothing but misery to this local! From layoffs to misguided attempts of extortion. The only ones suffering is the membership as its dismantaled by UPS. Time to speak up before its to late! UPS is counting on the E-board to take us out so we can all be replaced. Does anyone think they are safe with these spinless fools?

Take the training wheels off! How many more layoffs and terminations without representation will it take? Combine had his day and he failed!

airbiscut · Today, 06:18 PM

Hello to all....this is my first post....I am one of many who are on the street. I came to this company to get away from layoffs and fights that I found in the majors....What was I thinking. All of my buddy's are on the street with me so other than the fri night cartoon we call the 2727 mesg all I have is this forum as my only way to get information on what's going on and when if ever I will have my job back. I was sad to hear about the 4 techs in EWR can anyone tell me what happened.... I would like to know. Thank You and please keep the information coming... I am starved for news. Biscut...