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09-02-2009, 08:01 PM
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#51 | | Junior Member
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Rep Power: 0 | Re: Pickup Compliance Time... [quote=Jones;592818] Quote:
Originally Posted by kman73 Maybe if you didn't break the rules and cut corners to "save time" and make your supervisor look good, they wouldn't be so quick to bust your route. | No, maybe they busted my route along with 10 or so others because ** NO ONE ** puts their name on the 9.5 list... again: **NO ONE**
When I spoke to my steward about this he told me I should put my name on the list. Yeah, lotta good that's gonna do, put my name on the list so I can be the only one and be an easy target for management. That'll do me a lotta good.
This 9.5 stuff might actually fly if management were required to submit to the Union, every Monday, a detailed list of all drivers and the hours they worked the previous week, documenting each day's hours worked per driver. If any driver works over 9.5 three days in a week its automatically grieved BY THE UNION.
I'm not on the list cause I don't want retribution from management, and I'm not alone. A few drivers used to be on the list but they came off, later rumored because management advised them it would be "In their best interests" NOT to be on the 9.5 list.
This contract would be much better if management abided by it instead of finding ways around it.
K
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09-02-2009, 08:10 PM
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#52 | | happy to get out
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Rep Power: 212 | Re: Pickup Compliance Time... Quote:
Originally Posted by UpstateNYUPSer ...and suppose they have more going and call in a concern saying you were there too early? |
put em in as unscheduled pickups because these on area customers have no scheduled times. do not take credit in the scheduled pu on your board. when diad asks you did you complete scheduled pu answer no; this way you are not being dishonest or taking credit for extra stops. They have no integrity but keep yours. I have customers that close an hour earlier on Fridays so it they close at 4 on that day how can I stay within the 15 min of their usual 4;30 comit.
simple unsheduled pu or would ups rather have us sheet it closed.
yeah cust would be overjoyed with that |
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09-02-2009, 08:17 PM
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#53 | | JuniorMember for 24 Years
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Rep Power: 547 | Re: Pickup Compliance Time... Quote:
Originally Posted by browned out put em in as unscheduled pickups because these on area customers have no scheduled times. do not take credit in the scheduled pu on your board. when diad asks you did you complete scheduled pu answer no; this way you are not being dishonest or taking credit for extra stops. They have no integrity but keep yours. I have customers that close an hour earlier on Fridays so it they close at 4 on that day how can I stay within the 15 min of their usual 4;30 comit.
simple unsheduled pu or would ups rather have us sheet it closed.
yeah cust would be overjoyed with that | God, that is genius! I wish I had thought of doing that when they first started bugging us about pickup times
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09-02-2009, 08:26 PM
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#54 | | happy to get out
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Rep Power: 212 | Re: Pickup Compliance Time... Quote:
Originally Posted by tworavens God, that is genius! I wish I had thought of doing that when they first started bugging us about pickup times  | I would even go so far as to talk to your customers off the clock on a break or lunch and get it in writing. That this is what they want.
It is united parcel Service. This obsession with numbers irregardless of service to our customers needs borders on crazy; and I don't mean crazy like a fox. More like staight jacket, padded walls, lose business and customers type crazy. |
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09-03-2009, 05:52 PM
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#55 | | Member
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Rep Power: 33 | Re: Pickup Compliance Time... Quote:
Originally Posted by browned out I would even go so far as to talk to your customers off the clock on a break or lunch and get it in writing. That this is what they want.
It is united parcel Service. This obsession with numbers irregardless of service to our customers needs borders on crazy; and I don't mean crazy like a fox. More like staight jacket, padded walls, lose business and customers type crazy. | I agree, except for your use of the word "irregardless". That's not a word. |
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09-03-2009, 06:27 PM
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#56 | | Life is a Highway...
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Rep Power: 2737 | Re: Pickup Compliance Time... Quote:
Originally Posted by porkwagon I agree, except for your use of the word "irregardless". That's not a word. | This is one for the "pet peeves" thread. People who use the word "irregardless" thinking it makes them sound smart. |
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09-03-2009, 07:04 PM
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#57 | | Member
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Rep Power: 33 | Re: Pickup Compliance Time... You're right. |
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09-03-2009, 07:07 PM
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#58 | | happy to get out
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Rep Power: 212 | Re: Pickup Compliance Time... Quote:
Originally Posted by BLACKBOX This is one for the "pet peeves" thread. People who use the word "irregardless" thinking it makes them sound smart. |
no I was just tired. how bout without giving a flying fu k about how it affects the customer service. |
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09-03-2009, 07:25 PM
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#59 | | Senior Member
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Rep Power: 5741 | Re: Pickup Compliance Time... [quote=kman73;593222] Quote:
Originally Posted by Jones
No, maybe they busted my route along with 10 or so others because ** NO ONE ** puts their name on the 9.5 list... again: **NO ONE**
When I spoke to my steward about this he told me I should put my name on the list. Yeah, lotta good that's gonna do, put my name on the list so I can be the only one and be an easy target for management. That'll do me a lotta good.
This 9.5 stuff might actually fly if management were required to submit to the Union, every Monday, a detailed list of all drivers and the hours they worked the previous week, documenting each day's hours worked per driver. If any driver works over 9.5 three days in a week its automatically grieved BY THE UNION.
I'm not on the list cause I don't want retribution from management, and I'm not alone. A few drivers used to be on the list but they came off, later rumored because management advised them it would be "In their best interests" NOT to be on the 9.5 list.
This contract would be much better if management abided by it instead of finding ways around it.
K
"Alimony is like buying hay for a dead horse" (Groucho Marx) | Why would the company care about how long you work if they know you are too scared to file a 9.5 grievance? It would be nice if they would just abide by the contract, but if they know you wont file, then contract violations dont matter.
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09-03-2009, 08:01 PM
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#60 | | JuniorMember for 24 Years
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Rep Power: 547 | Re: Pickup Compliance Time... Quote:
Originally Posted by porkwagon I agree, except for your use of the word "irregardless". That's not a word. | So how come you didn't correct his use of the words "staight jacket" [sic]? It's "straitjacket". And it should have read "customers' needs", not "customers needs".
Now who's the one who doesn't sound so smart?
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09-04-2009, 01:50 AM
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#61 | | aka Grandstug
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Rep Power: 8531 | Re: Pickup Compliance Time... Quote:
Originally Posted by tworavens So how come you didn't correct his use of the words "staight jacket" [sic]? It's "straitjacket". And it should have read "customers' needs", not "customers needs". Now who's the one who doesn't sound so smart? | All of you?
Back on track. I think that idea of the unscheduled p/u's is a good one........irregardless of what you's other guyz think. |
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09-04-2009, 02:10 AM
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#62 | | Senior Member
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Rep Power: 2490 | Re: Pickup Compliance Time... Quote:
Originally Posted by BLACKBOX This is one for the "pet peeves" thread. People who use the word "irregardless" thinking it makes them sound smart. | I like irregard. |
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09-04-2009, 03:46 AM
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#63 | | golden ticket member
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Rep Power: 22552 | Re: Pickup Compliance Time... People used THAT word so much that they finally made it acceptable. It's as offensive as 'ain't' to me.
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09-04-2009, 04:42 PM
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#64 | | aka Grandstug
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Rep Power: 8531 | Re: Pickup Compliance Time... Quote:
Originally Posted by Sleeve_meet_Heart I like irregard. | I like his brother and sister Beau and Hilder, AIN'T that a shame? |
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09-04-2009, 04:46 PM
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#65 | | golden ticket member
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Rep Power: 22552 | Re: Pickup Compliance Time... irregard dog...
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09-04-2009, 04:47 PM
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#66 | | golden ticket member
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Rep Power: 22552 | Re: Pickup Compliance Time... Life Irregard......
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09-04-2009, 04:48 PM
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#67 | | golden ticket member
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Rep Power: 22552 | Re: Pickup Compliance Time... Irregardian angel....
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09-04-2009, 04:49 PM
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#68 | | golden ticket member
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Rep Power: 22552 | Re: Pickup Compliance Time... Right Irregard....
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09-04-2009, 04:57 PM
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#69 | | aka Grandstug
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Rep Power: 8531 | Re: Pickup Compliance Time... Irreguard! |
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09-04-2009, 04:58 PM
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#70 | | aka Grandstug
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Rep Power: 8531 | Re: Pickup Compliance Time... Quote:
Originally Posted by moreluck Right Irregard....  | I think I'm starting to have moreregard for you. |
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09-26-2009, 12:04 PM
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#71 | | Senior Member
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Rep Power: 5741 | Re: Pickup Compliance Time... We've had pickup compliance standards here for a while, but they have left my run alone until now.... I have a double trip run with almost all businesses (mall route). The route varies so much so pickup times comes whenever I deliver since sometimes I am delivering the mall til 8pm or later. Well now pickup times have to be set in stone, so these customers now get their pickups between 4 and 5:15... nice to know when your pickup is but their delivery will be a couple hours after pickup.... more brilliant customer service... well, as long as the numbers look good
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09-26-2009, 06:54 PM
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#72 | | aka Grandstug
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Rep Power: 8531 | Re: Pickup Compliance Time... They've adjust several of my p/u's so that they are on area with this latest DIAD upgrade. I sent a message to the OMS asking her if she could make all of my p/u's on area. I haven't heard back from her yet. |
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09-26-2009, 09:01 PM
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#73 | | Senior Member
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Rep Power: 5741 | Re: Pickup Compliance Time... Quote:
Originally Posted by stevetheupsguy They've adjust several of my p/u's so that they are on area with this latest DIAD upgrade. I sent a message to the OMS asking her if she could make all of my p/u's on area. I haven't heard back from her yet.  | does that mean that if you dont get the p/u at the same time every day it wont affect your %compliance? that is what they are so concerned about... they way I have changed it to adds over an hour each day
__________________ "Since we ought to be no less persuaded that the propitious smiles of Heaven, can never be expected on a nation that disregards the eternal rules of order and right, which Heaven itself has ordained." George Washington |
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09-26-2009, 10:21 PM
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Rep Power: 12 | Re: Pickup Compliance Time... You can no longer prerecord pickups. Just another way to make it harder on us |
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09-26-2009, 10:28 PM
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