Take Charge

[bumped]

I just received in the mail today the new Take Charge program. What an absolute joke this is. Once you save up reward points, then it costs you extra points to get it shipped to you. Don't worry though, the letter says "to provide more flexability".

Now there will be a lot of unused points instead people that use their old rewards card regularly on day to day purchases. I know one driver that buys his lunches with his reward points. I used mine on some of the medical bills I would get.

[klein]

Originally Posted by bumped

I just received in the mail today the new Take Charge program. What an absolute joke this is. Once you save up reward points, then it costs you extra points to get it shipped to you. Don't worry though, the letter says "to provide more flexability".

Better keep some points, to get your safety rewards shipped to you in the future, as well !

[Sleeve_meet_Heart]

Originally Posted by bumped

I just received in the mail today the new Take Charge program. What an absolute joke this is. Once you save up reward points, then it costs you extra points to get it shipped to you. Don't worry though, the letter says "to provide more flexability".

Now there will be a lot of unused points instead people that use their old rewards card regularly on day to day purchases. I know one driver that buys his lunches with his reward points. I used mine on some of the medical bills I would get.

I posted the UPS memo here but the mods deleted it...

points are now worth 1/4 to 1/5 what they were worth. Also, there is no more cash to convert for sales leads.

It is a cost cutting measure obviously.

To say the least, no sales leads from me.

[Hoaxster]

Originally Posted by bumped

Don't worry though, the letter says "to provide more flexability".

One needs flexibility to bend over.

Just think of it as an enhancement.

[brownrodster]

Originally Posted by bumped

I just received in the mail today the new Take Charge program. What an absolute joke this is. Once you save up reward points, then it costs you extra points to get it shipped to you. Don't worry though, the letter says "to provide more flexability".

Now there will be a lot of unused points instead people that use their old rewards card regularly on day to day purchases. I know one driver that buys his lunches with his reward points. I used mine on some of the medical bills I would get.

I got one of those cards once. I never used it. I was certain that it would be denied if I tried. So I threw it in a drawer and forgot about it.

I have never turned in a lead. My management just put my name on a lead to sham up their numbers and show that they had a high percentage of participating drivers.

[Hoaxster]

Originally Posted by brownrodster

I have never turned in a lead. My management just put my name on a lead to sham up their numbers and show that they had a high percentage of participating drivers.

That was nice of them to look out for you.

[over9five]

Originally Posted by brownrodster

I got one of those cards once. I never used it. I was certain that it would be denied if I tried. So I threw it in a drawer and forgot about it.

I have never turned in a lead. My management just put my name on a lead to sham up their numbers and show that they had a high percentage of participating drivers.

You can call the number on the back, and they'll tell you how much money is on it.

[trickpony1]

Originally Posted by brownrodster

I have never turned in a lead. My management just put my name on a lead to sham up their numbers and show that they had a high percentage of participating drivers.

wouldn't that be falsification and dishonesty......the very same thing Georgia Brown lost 7 weeks of pay over?

BUT WAIT!.........it's okay if management does it.

[scratch]

Originally Posted by brownrodster

My management just put my name on a lead to sham up their numbers and show that they had a high percentage of participating drivers.

They have done that to me too! I think I have had about a $.38 balance on that card for several years.....

[cheryl]

Originally Posted by Sleeve_meet_Heart

I posted the UPS memo here but the mods deleted it...

Yep, the mods deleted it from our site because it was the property of UPS.

When proprietary info from UPS is copied and posted here someone usually reports it and the mods are obligated to delete it. That's how the game works if you want our website to remain online.

Thank you for using the Brown Cafe.

P.S. Maybe next time it would be better to just summarize the content in your own words rather than paste a copy.

[overallowed]

The last time I turned in a sales lead, I got a shipper who only used us for ground to convert their air to us when DHL folded up their tent. They denied me any points because this was an existing (?) account (***?). The more I argued with them, the deeper hole I dug, so I just gave up. I wouldn't turn in a sales lead now unless somebody gift-wrapped it for me.

[Sleeve_meet_Heart]

Originally Posted by cheryl

Yep, the mods deleted it from our site because it was the property of UPS.

When proprietary info from UPS is copied and posted here someone usually reports it and the mods are obligated to delete it. That's how the game works if you want our website to remain online.

Thank you for using the Brown Cafe.

P.S. Maybe next time it would be better to just summarize the content in your own words rather than paste a copy.

Look, I am not playing a game and I was not complaining about the moderation. maybe I will just stop posting here honestly, the information I posted here was handed out like hotcakes by the company and it is far from privately held or guarded information. Call it proprietary, I will not deny that either, but then again I do not feel bad about it.

[cheryl]

I'm sorry if my previous post came across as abrupt but I do believe that I am the only one here that has ever received a call from a lawyer on behalf of UPS regarding something to do with this website.

You are all anonymous, I am not.

It's nothing personal at all. I get your point of view. I just do not want to deal with legal issues because someone posts a copy of a UPS internal memo here instead of summarizing the contents.

It's nothing more than that.

I'm truly sorry if that upsets anyone, but that is the reality of the situation. This website operates on a shoestring budget. Feel free to speak your mind here but please do not post anything that belongs to UPS or you may drag me into a legal dispute that could very easily shut this website down after 10 years of operation.

Thank you for your understanding.

[klein]

Originally Posted by cheryl

I'm sorry if my previous post came across as abrupt but I do believe that I am the only one here that has ever received a call from a lawyer on behalf of UPS regarding something to do with this website.

You are all anonymous, I am not.

It's nothing personal at all. I get your point of view. I just do not want to deal with legal issues because someone posts a copy of a UPS internal memo here instead of summarizing the contents.

It's nothing more than that.

I'm truly sorry if that upsets anyone, but that is the reality of the situation. This website operates on a shoestring budget. Feel free to speak your mind here but please do not post anything that belongs to UPS or you may drag me into a legal dispute that could very easily shut this website down after 10 years of operation.

Thank you for your understanding.

Cherly, you do a terrific job !
And well said and put.

I like this site.
And so do many others.

Sorry, on behalf of all or most of us, that take this website for granted at times.

[DS]

There have been a few complaints lately about us mods deleting things we feel that are either innapropriate to ups and or to other members .This is not AOL.Some people think that the browncafe owes them something.
Its fine to say what you want but realize that your opinions often go over the fine line that makes this site unique.Anyone who thinks we are going overboard is free to leave.If you can't follow the rules,find somewhere else to cry.I personally find it quite perplexing to have to moderate self centered posts from intelligegent people about stupid things.
We can see how a new member may not understand the way it works,but its unacceptable when long time members think they are above the TOS.

[Cementups]

^ Does that mean I can put my avatar back up instead of the current Benedict Arnold one?

[pickup]

Originally Posted by Cementups

^ Does that mean I can put my avatar back up instead of the current Benedict Arnold one?

Benedict Arnold was a true patriot . While his fellow countrymen were betraying mother England, he risked life and limb to help save his country . Although he failed, history will always remember him . Thank you for honoring such a man, Cementups. Please keep the avatar.

[pickup]

Originally Posted by DS

There have been a few complaints lately about us mods deleting things we feel that are either innapropriate to ups and or to other members .This is not AOL.Some people think that the browncafe owes them something.
Its fine to say what you want but realize that your opinions often go over the fine line that makes this site unique.Anyone who thinks we are going overboard is free to leave.If you can't follow the rules,find somewhere else to cry.I personally find it quite perplexing to have to moderate self centered posts from intelligegent people about stupid things.
We can see how a new member may not understand the way it works,but its unacceptable when long time members think they are above the TOS.

Actually, I never read the Terms of Service until now. There is stuff about privacy, infringement, but not a thing about flaming , family friendly, etc.

[dilligaf]

Originally Posted by pickup

Actually, I never read the Terms of Service until now. There is stuff about privacy, infringement, but not a thing about flaming , family friendly, etc.

I hope this is ok Cheryl. Actually, Pickup it does say exactly that, it is just worded different than what you said.

5. USER CONDUCT. YOU agree not to use the web site or the service to: (a) violate or solicit the violation of any local, state, national or international law; (b) infringe the rights of any third party, including but not limited to intellectual property rights and privacy or publicity rights; (c) upload, post, email or otherwise transmit to or through the service any Content that (1) is unlawful, threatening, abusive, tortious, defamatory, obscene, or invasive of another person's privacy; (2) consists of instructional information on illegal activities, including, but not limited to, hacking, cracking, and phreaking; (3) violates or infringes in any way upon the proprietary rights of others, including, without limitation, copyrighted software, music, photographs, text, videos or artwork; (4) constitutes unprotected speech or expression, child pornography, or sexual material of an obscene nature or that violates local, state or national laws; (5) is the private information of another, including but not limited to such information as any person’s addresses, phone or pager numbers, confidential email addresses, Social Security number, or credit card numbers; (6) contains software viruses, trojan horses or any other computer code, files or programs which are designed to or which intentionally do interrupt, destroy or limit the functionality of any computer or computer software or other hardware or telecommunications equipment; or (7) YOU do not have a right to upload or post due to a contractual or other legal duty or obligation to do so;(d) impersonate any person or entity, including, but not limited to, a website or service owner, administrator, official, forum leader, guide or host, or falsely state or otherwise misrepresent YOUR affiliation with a person or entity; (e) forge headers or otherwise manipulate identifiers in order to disguise the origin of any Content transmitted through the Service; (f) interfere with or disrupt the service, computer servers or boards accessible through the Service; (g) collect or store personal data about other users; (h) disseminate off-topic messages on boards promoting any product, service, web site, board or venture, or promote boards on the service through unsolicited electronic mail messages to third parties.

[tonyexpress]

Originally Posted by pickup

There is stuff about privacy, infringement, but not a thing about flaming , family friendly, etc.

Look again...4th paragraph!

It is fine to disagree with a different viewpoint, but please limit this to challenging the idea and not make your comments a personal challenge or make derogatory personal comments about individuals, their ideas or their situation. The latter is considered to be a flame and will not be tolerated.

TERMS OF SERVICE

[cheryl]

I looked at the way this is displayed here and I can see how it could be confusing. Community standards are also covered by the house rules in the sticky on top of the forum but we usually just say TOS.

I'll paste a copy of the house rules onto the TOS page:

http://www.browncafe.com/forum/ups_d...tml#post346562

Our specific house rules:

Whether this is your first time online or you're a seasoned visitor, we've spelled out the house rules for you here. Generally speaking, these rules simply require respect and good manners. Use common sense and you'll feel right at home.

1.) We live by words online, so when it comes to posted messages, e-mails, or private messages of any kind, we don't allow obscene, racist, or sexually explicit language or media. We reserve the right to remove postings that defame or insult anyone, as well as notes that are abusive or hateful.

2.) Our community's moderators can't possibly read every post made on this forum so we rely on our members to report posts that violate our House Rules or TOS. Please help us keep this forum a welcoming and comfortable place for all of our members by reporting () offensive posts.



3.) No solicitations or advertisements are allowed. These include advertisements for your business.

4.) You may not suggest or encourage illegal activity.

5.) You must respect the privacy of individuals. This means no posting of full names, phone numbers, addresses, Social Security numbers, or any other private information.

6.) We reserve the right to remove any postings, content, rep comments etc. (although we have no duty to do so).

7.) You may not post exact copies of UPS proprietary information on our website. This would include pasting material from UPSers.com or UPS internal communications. If you want to discuss this information please summarize it in your own words.

8.) Use good judgment...

9.) The Terms of Service for this website can be found here: http://www.browncafe.com/tos.html

Comments, suggestions and complaints are always welcome.

[over9five]

Ahem......Back on topic!



I just got my Take Charge letter today.

"As a participant in the Take Charge sales lead program......."

OK, I've been in Feeders two years now, and haven't submitted a sales lead in that time.

"....you have earned a REWARD account...."

Nice! I still have money in this account!!!

"Use your personal account number to check your balance"

OK! Woohoooo!!!!




Account balance........................zero.






Gee, thanks for the card..........................

[dilligaf]

Originally Posted by over9five

Ahem......Back on topic!



I just got my Take Charge letter today.

"As a participant in the Take Charge sales lead program......."

OK, I've been in Feeders two years now, and haven't submitted a sales lead in that time.

"....you have earned a REWARD account...."

Nice! I still have money in this account!!!

"Use your personal account number to check your balance"

OK! Woohoooo!!!!




Account balance........................zero.






Gee, thanks for the card..........................

I just got mine too. Account balance..................zero. *** I had credit on my other card, why didn't it transfer? This is the biggest reason why I care not a bit to get new accounts.

[Big Babooba]

Originally Posted by over9five

Ahem......Back on topic!



I just got my Take Charge letter today.

"As a participant in the Take Charge sales lead program......."

OK, I've been in Feeders two years now, and haven't submitted a sales lead in that time.

"....you have earned a REWARD account...."

Nice! I still have money in this account!!!

"Use your personal account number to check your balance"

OK! Woohoooo!!!!




Account balance........................zero.






Gee, thanks for the card..........................

It would come in handy if you ever need to shim a door hinge.

[over9five]

Originally Posted by Big Babooba

It would come in handy if you ever need to shim a door hinge.

Not even that! It's not a plastic card like it used to be. Just a credit card sized perforated cutout on the Take Charge letter!