Final Post - I Quit

[Re-Raise]

He claimed for a long time that seniority rules did not apply to him and that by telling every management person he saw how badly he wanted to drive he would jump to the front of the line.

Pretended to be a 20 yr driver fired for hitting a dog under one alias. He also claimed to do some kind of big business shipping to China. You should really go back a year and read some of his posts where he claimed he was already a full-time driver and that it was "the easiest and most enjoyable job he ever had".

I don't want to be the first guy on here to say I told you so, but it is hard not to think it.

[stevetheupsguy]

For all of those that need a refresher, click here.

http://www.browncafe.com/forum/searc...earchid=316655

[Sleeve_meet_Heart]

Originally Posted by City Driver

did he actually buy coffee and donuts for management?

Yes.

[scratch]

Originally Posted by Sleeve_meet_Heart

Yes.

And it didn't work one bit. Coffee and donuts will never beat the Seniority List.

[City Driver]

lol what a kissass buying coffee and donuts for management.....we got a guy like that here

i cant stop laughing!

[Sleeve_meet_Heart]

Originally Posted by scratch

And it didn't work one bit. Coffee and donuts will never beat the Seniority List.

2 years ago UPS fudged the seniority bid list and put me FT as a 8/1/98. So it can be done.

[feederdriver06]

There is life after brown. Hope your new gig works out for you. In the long run you will be much happier I'm sure. Even if you don't make the same money that you would driving the package car just not dealing with the package center bu-ls-it will be worth the difference in salary and your overall physical and mental health will benefit from it most definitely

[stevetheupsguy]

I'm hearing a lot of, "you're better off now". Why? This guys track record has shown that he won't abide by anyone's rules, so how is it gonna be better for him now? Why is everyone saying UPS is so bad? You work, get paid, have weekends off, what could be better? It's a job that not everyone is created to do, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't stick it out when the going gets tough.

How tough did it actually get for LTD? So he was part time. So he didn't get the hours he used to get. And? How many part timers are gonna quit for this same reason? It's a high turnover job and the benefits are great. You do what you have to do to wait for full time. You deal with the same politics that you would in any arena. I look at it as there being one more job for someone that's eager to work for Brown.

NEEEEEEEEEEXXXXXT!!!

[Mike23]

Hmm, another person UPS didn't lay off. They'll cry it from the highest mountain top when in reality they did just as bad and cut hours so they couldn't live off what UPS gave them. Which is worse? Laying someone off so they can get unemployment or keeping them on with so few hours that they can't survive off the UPS pay check?

[stevetheupsguy]

Originally Posted by Mike23

Hmm, another person UPS didn't lay off. They'll cry it from the highest mountain top when in reality they did just as bad and cut hours so they couldn't live off what UPS gave them. Which is worse? Laying someone off so they can get unemployment or keeping them on with so few hours that they can't survive off the UPS pay check?

You're not really supposed to survive on a part time paycheck, Mike. It's just the crumbs you get before the gold. Do the math and you'll see that working 3-4 hours at $9hr will get you nowhere in life. You'll need to get another job to supplement your income till you go FT. It's either this or live with your parents and if you're smart, go to school. Either way, it's up to you to take charge of your life and not be like some sort of Tumbleweed blowing around in the desert.

This person was given solid advice by this board so that he could correct his misguided thinking about UPS. He did not heed this advice, and when the reality set in that he was just another one of us, he quit.

[Livin the Dream?]

Had a few minutes, wanted to check the feedback, and all I can say is - wow. You are all alright. Thank you for the positive thoughts & wishes, sincerely. (Although I cannot see Steve's replies, I'm sure they are full of encouraging words, happy thoughts! )

Pickup - Fantastic. No less than fantastic. Getting into it was very involved, but at least cut & dry. Do this to get this or that clearance. The way the real world works. (Unlike a union shop)

Yes, 34klb requires class B, I have class A w/air brakes. Was going to get HazMat, decided life is too short. Permits? Good God - DOT number, ICC MC filing, Log book, IFTA filing, Pennsylvania PUC, KYU, VIN, unbelievable.

You also made an excellent point about finally making money - some people will understand this, some won't; by going so long without money, I'm afraid to spend ANY, so I seem to be on the right track w/that.

As I said a year or so ago, UPS is my first time being employed by anyone else. It will also be the last.


A big clarification - As stated in my original post, I quit because I realized that, if I was offered the position to drive FULL TIME TOMORROW, I would not take it. Knowing that, I had no reason to stay. It had nothing to do with the wait, although that certainly didn't help anything, and I feel sending someone to driving school then making them unload boxes for a year is, well, stupid.

I strongly believe now that UPS counts on the fact that people say "Ugh, I have two-three-six years in, I can't quit now."

And, uh, no, I never got donuts or coffee for anyone. I joked about doing so, now people take it as truth. Funny, though.

Again, thanks for the positive thoughts / wishes.

[pickup]

Originally Posted by Livin the Dream?

Had a few minutes, wanted to check the feedback, and all I can say is - wow. You are all alright. Thank you for the positive thoughts & wishes, sincerely. (Although I cannot see Steve's replies, I'm sure they are full of encouraging words, happy thoughts! )

Pickup - Fantastic. No less than fantastic. Getting into it was very involved, but at least cut & dry. Do this to get this or that clearance. The way the real world works. (Unlike a union shop)

Yes, 34klb requires class B, I have class A w/air brakes. Was going to get HazMat, decided life is too short. Permits? Good God - DOT number, ICC MC filing, Log book, IFTA filing, Pennsylvania PUC, KYU, VIN, unbelievable.

You also made an excellent point about finally making money - some people will understand this, some won't; by going so long without money, I'm afraid to spend ANY, so I seem to be on the right track w/that.

Okay, pal, it sounds like you are doing this legitimately and with more than a half ass notion. Good for you.

Maybe they did you a favor letting the sword of damocles swing over your head all this time. You just might be one of those guys who will thrive in a less restrictive environment. Good luck, living the dream.

[PassYouBy]

Originally Posted by stevetheupsguy

I'm hearing a lot of, "you're better off now". Why? This guys track record has shown that he won't abide by anyone's rules, so how is it gonna be better for him now? Why is everyone saying UPS is so bad? You work, get paid, have weekends off, what could be better? It's a job that not everyone is created to do, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't stick it out when the going gets tough.

How tough did it actually get for LTD? So he was part time. So he didn't get the hours he used to get. And? How many part timers are gonna quit for this same reason? It's a high turnover job and the benefits are great. You do what you have to do to wait for full time. You deal with the same politics that you would in any arena. I look at it as there being one more job for someone that's eager to work for Brown.

NEEEEEEEEEEXXXXXT!!!

Steve, I have to agree with you! I have been with UPS for only 3 years and I still like the job. I like working for UPS and when I get to drive 2-3 times a week my check surpasses ANY other check I made working 50-60 hrs at my previous job I had for 13 years. (Take into account the benefits too).
I enjoy the driving part of the job, not only for the $, but I like it because I'm on my own all day, and nobody bothers me for the most part. Yea, the job can be tough at times, but I get satisfaction from doing a good job. (I DO IT FOR ME).
I do other side jobs to supplement some of my lost income, but I can tell you this job has less headaches than my previous job!!!!!!
You are correct when you say "This job is not for everyone!" I am glad this is true, because that gives me and others more of an opportunity to have a job that can lead me to a comfortable living in the future as well as the present.

[beatupbrown]

You made a smart move once you get into the machine you get caught in cogs unable to move out are in just a robot. Good luck there with pursuits in life.

[City Driver]

im gonna bring my terminal manager coffee and donuts tomorrow and ask if i can get assigned the nicest tractor in the fleet

[PassYouBy]

Originally Posted by City Driver

im gonna bring my terminal manager coffee and donuts tomorrow and ask if i can get assigned the nicest tractor in the fleet

[Sleeve_meet_Heart]

Originally Posted by But Benefits Are Great!

This is an attempt to get back on track here - yes, I know, Selfish, ME, ME, ME....

Finished the week. Supposedly had top numbers every day.

Called into office, told I could start Saturday delivery next week ( I passed all written tests on the computer, taking driving test Tuesday)

Asked if I wanted to try other areas, did some time on sort, small sort, introduced to loading but didn't do any.

Union or no Union, Maybe those strategically placed Dunkin Donuts did the trick?

So at which point are you or were you lying, BBAG? Seems to be a trend with you....

Was there even a BBAG? Did he ever truly exist, anyway?

[stevetheupsguy]

Originally Posted by City Driver

im gonna bring my terminal manager coffee and donuts tomorrow and ask if i can get assigned the nicest tractor in the fleet

Preferably one without yellow rear tires.

[Ntoul]

Originally Posted by stevetheupsguy

You're not really supposed to survive on a part time paycheck, Mike. It's just the crumbs you get before the gold. Do the math and you'll see that working 3-4 hours at $9hr will get you nowhere in life. You'll need to get another job to supplement your income till you go FT. It's either this or live with your parents and if you're smart, go to school. Either way, it's up to you to take charge of your life and not be like some sort of Tumbleweed blowing around in the desert.

Uh, its not that way for everyone. Been preloading 19 years, make $25/hr. Never made only $9/hr. Started when there was incentive pay and extra Air driver work was available (of course, that all went away). Only recent contracts made part-time suck. I feel bad for current PT's who have to eat "crumbs" and get looked on as lower class employees waiting for the "gold"

[satellitedriver]

Godspeed to you, Mike.
You are taking control of your life, and that is the secret.
All the crap about UPS and the union are meaningless, if they are not taking you where you wish to go.
My simple words of advice;
Early to bed
Early to rise
Work like Hell,
and advertise.

Best Regards,
Steve

[Slobberman]

Thought it was his final post,guess not.

[orangputeh]

Originally Posted by City Driver

im gonna bring my terminal manager coffee and donuts tomorrow and ask if i can get assigned the nicest tractor in the fleet

We have some drivers that do more than that.

[stevetheupsguy]

Originally Posted by Ntoul

Uh, its not that way for everyone. Been preloading 19 years, make $25/hr. Never made only $9/hr. Started when there was incentive pay and extra Air driver work was available (of course, that all went away). Only recent contracts made part-time suck. I feel bad for current PT's who have to eat "crumbs" and get looked on as lower class employees waiting for the "gold"

That's what I said. Your base is maybe $9 an hour. You can't rely on extra work or OT. You get what you get and wait to get more. Some people are patient and wait, and some people burn down their houses, lose their licenses and cry when the driving work dries up. I'm just sayin!

Originally Posted by Slobberman

Thought it was his final post,guess not.

LOL

Originally Posted by orangputeh

We have some drivers that do more than that.

[Jones]

Originally Posted by stevetheupsguy

That's what I said. Your base is maybe $9 an hour. You can't rely on extra work or OT. You get what you get and wait to get more. Some people are patient and wait, and some people burn down their houses, lose their licenses and cry when the driving work dries up. I'm just sayin!

LOL

If he's been here 19 years he's red circled under an old contract. His base is $25/hour.

[brownmonster]

Originally Posted by City Driver

im gonna bring my terminal manager coffee and donuts tomorrow and ask if i can get assigned the nicest tractor in the fleet

If your Manager is terminal that's the least you could do.