Final Post - I Quit - Page 3 - Brown Cafe

stevetheupsguy · 09-22-2009, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Jones

If he's been here 19 years he's red circled under an old contract. His base is $25/hour.

Yeah, but he didn't start out at that rate, did he? BBAG, LivingToDream, or whatever other name he may be known by, has been at UPS less than 2 years. I'm not talking about people that have been here for as many years as you said. This is LivingToDream we're talking about, so stay on track. Besides, each of those long time employee's waited to get where they are now. That's what happens when you wait.

If you plant a tree and then uproot it because it will be better off over there, and continually move it to where "you think" it will do best, it will never grow deep strong roots and become stable enough to grow. If you move from job to job, it's the same thing. Nothing is ever good enough for some people.

Ntoul · 09-22-2009, 07:27 PM

<<<If he's been here 19 years he's red circled under an old contract. His base is $25/hour. >>>

Wrong, my rate started at $9 and rest is all from regular contractual raises.

But my point is that it could be made more fair for PTers by starting them at around $12-$13 and drivers top rate a buck or 2 lower. Sure you could probably find suckers to go PT for $2/hr (if it was legal) with the (dim) hope of $30 in the future and you could whip them and cr*p on them and tell them the future will bring riches, but this, to me, is just not right. The situation has just kept getting more and more unfair over the past 20 years.

over9five · 09-23-2009, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by stevetheupsguy

"You see Grasshopper,
If you plant a tree and then uproot it because it will be better off over there, and continually move it to where "you think" it will do best, it will never grow deep strong roots and become stable enough to grow. If you move from job to job, it's the same thing. Nothing is ever good enough for some people."

Fixed it for you, Master Po

Just Numbers · 09-23-2009, 10:12 AM

Let us know what happens in the future...wendy's, mcdonalds's or burger king...oops, forgot sonic.

NHDRVR · 09-23-2009, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Numbers

Let us know what happens in the future...wendy's, mcdonalds's or burger king...oops, forgot sonic.

ouch

Re-Raise · 09-23-2009, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by NHDRVR

ouch

Ouch is right ... What did those fine establishments do to deserve LTD-BBAG ?

over9five · 09-24-2009, 07:30 AM

Wow, two threads about people leaving BC.

That brings us down to 22,964 members. Hope Cheryl doesn't start laying off Mods.

UPSSOCKS · 09-24-2009, 07:43 AM

I live in between a hub and a center. In my hub it takes atleast six years to ten years to even have a shot at driving package cars. Feeders takes about 15 years. In the center which is the same distance as the Hub but in opposite directions they hire people off the street to drive package. No one is allowed to transfer from the hub to the center. Why?

over9five · 09-24-2009, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by UPSSOCKS

I live in between a hub and a center. In my hub it takes atleast six years to ten years to even have a shot at driving package cars. Feeders takes about 15 years. In the center which is the same distance as the Hub but in opposite directions they hire people off the street to drive package. No one is allowed to transfer from the hub to the center. Why?

Different local?

22.34life · 09-24-2009, 07:56 AM

waiting for a full time job sucks but i did it i waited 3 years for a spot.my wife had a decent job and it was tough but i knew it would pay off in the end.but it is harder now than it was then that was almost 11 years ago when i started part time at the same starting pay now.with only 20 hrs for sure coming you are looking at about 120-150 dollars take home you cant live on that,and im tired of all that student crap too i dont know about where everyone else works but here not too many students most look like they just got out of county lockup last night.i really dont understand the whole part time system ups wonders why they cant get quailty workers these people dont care about 120 bucks a week.seems like to me the company would benifit from making the whole place full time jobs or at least a big part of it.but right now the attitude is treat your part time job like its your full time job break your back for us for 120 bucks a week and maybe in 3 or 4 years if you can survive that long on this pay you will get a driving job.a higher starting pay and full time jobs would attract a different type of person not the thieves thugs and trash we have in here now,but maybe ups likes it that way?

moreluck · 09-24-2009, 08:03 AM

"Final post - I quit"

Why is it that with a title like this that I have to open new postings everyday??

ryman1566 · 09-24-2009, 08:43 AM

As a Local Sort Employee for 5 years, I am having the same thoughts about quitting and getting back to a life where I don't feel like a hostage. When I was first hired it was strictly as a second income to my family. About 6 months in I got the 'I'm gonna drive' bug. Being that I work at a small center of 30 drivers, getting in is a process that takes time. During this time I have now seen the true side of management and how they treat us such as cutting jobs, (our local sort currently runs with 3 union employees) and downright degrading the people who work there (this is the best place you'll ever work, you think any other company would treat you guys this good, blah, blah, blah) So now the fever is going away, and between working until 10-10:30 every night after an 8 hour day job, my thoughts are with the original poster. There may be life afterwards after all.....

Just Numbers · 09-24-2009, 01:59 PM

I think you may be right about moving on...In July UPS reported its sixth consecutive qtr of lower pkg volume. This decline was 4.6% over the same qtr last yr. Bottom line....no driving jobs available for quite a while.

stevetheupsguy · 09-24-2009, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by 22.34life

waiting for a full time job sucks but i did it i waited 3 years for a spot.my wife had a decent job and it was tough but i knew it would pay off in the end.but it is harder now than it was then that was almost 11 years ago when i started part time at the same starting pay now.with only 20 hrs for sure coming you are looking at about 120-150 dollars take home you cant live on that,and im tired of all that student crap too i dont know about where everyone else works but here not too many students most look like they just got out of county lockup last night.i really dont understand the whole part time system ups wonders why they cant get quailty workers these people dont care about 120 bucks a week.seems like to me the company would benifit from making the whole place full time jobs or at least a big part of it.but right now the attitude is treat your part time job like its your full time job break your back for us for 120 bucks a week and maybe in 3 or 4 years if you can survive that long on this pay you will get a driving job.a higher starting pay and full time jobs would attract a different type of person not the thieves thugs and trash we have in here now,but maybe ups likes it that way?

Careful, some of us driver's were the Thieves, Thugs and Trash that you're talking about. I think it was how we evolved over our "wait" period that helped us to become "better people".

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Originally Posted by ryman1566

As a Local Sort Employee for 5 years, I am having the same thoughts about quitting and getting back to a life where I don't feel like a hostage. When I was first hired it was strictly as a second income to my family. About 6 months in I got the 'I'm gonna drive' bug. Being that I work at a small center of 30 drivers, getting in is a process that takes time. During this time I have now seen the true side of management and how they treat us such as cutting jobs, (our local sort currently runs with 3 union employees) and downright degrading the people who work there (this is the best place you'll ever work, you think any other company would treat you guys this good, blah, blah, blah) So now the fever is going away, and between working until 10-10:30 every night after an 8 hour day job, my thoughts are with the original poster. There may be life afterwards after all.....

I think you may have a dual problem. MGMT is a problem, but maybe you've lost the hunger that you originally had for this job. Either way, the decision has always been up to you to stay or move on. Whatever you choose, don't do it out of bitterness, but with thought about how it will affect your family and your life. Good Luck!!!

UPSSOCKS · 09-25-2009, 08:05 AM

You know in places like New Stanton, employees have been on the waiting list to drive package cars for ten years!!!!!

NHDRVR · 09-25-2009, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by UPSSOCKS

You know in places like New Stanton, employees have been on the waiting list to drive package cars for ten years!!!!!

10 years...

Wow

Knowing what I know now, if I were part time I would give it about 10 weeks...

whiskey · 09-25-2009, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by City Driver

im still waitin til i hit the lottery so i can make a thread like this

I did hit the lottery today. Good bye my friends. An Irish blessing to all.

over9five · 09-25-2009, 04:47 PM

Party at Whiskeys house!!!!

pickup · 09-25-2009, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by whiskey

An Irish blessing to all.

No need to put curses on us!

Bad Gas! · 09-25-2009, 06:51 PM

Misery loves company if you have second thoughts and want to wait a couple more years and then be abused by your dispatcher...by then, it will only be worse...Most drivers take it one day at a time and say "wow"..."look at my wonderful dispatch numbers today"......It's pure madness, I say, driving for brown!