What would you have done?

[klein]

Originally Posted by DS

This really got me thinking.You probobly did the right thing by doing what you were supposed to,but then again....If it was just pot,well who cares,but what if it was crystal meth...or plastic explosives...or even worse,Obama health care propaganda...
If you had decided not to deliver them,you may well have been assulted up to and including death.
Although a dangerous move,you could have had a peek inside ,and if it was something nasty,you could have taken out the contraband,and replaced it with bibles,or Obama health care propaganda.

sorry, but I did not expect that from you.


Edited`:
darnit: didn`t read it properly... sorry DS. Again, the mistake, talk before I think.

[Mike23]

Those drugs gave me a job that day! If more people did drugs we'd have more drivers employed!

[DS]

Originally Posted by klein

sorry, but I did not expect that from you.

It was sarcasm

[Hoaxster]

Originally Posted by klein

sorry, but I did not expect that from you.

You did not think DS has a good sense of humor?

[whiskey]

Originally Posted by bigmistake

I had an 3 EAM's on Saturday. As soon as I saw the packages, I knew something was up. Local law enforcement used to come to our hub with a dog and screen packages, but they haven't been there in a while.

Anyways, the 3 packages were 13 lbs. each. They were going to a suburb of one of the poorest cities in the country. They were EAM, taped and glued throughout and the label stated to "leave on front porch, no signature required."

I get to the address, it's a dilapitated house, almost looked abandoned, no curtains, from the outside I could see piles of clothes insideand there were 2 shady individuals parked in a sedan across from the house.

I DR the 3 and went on my way. If you suspect something is up, do you have any obligation to report it? What would you have done?

You've got to be kidding.

[ups1990]

Originally Posted by trplnkl

There's a whole lot more to the DR procedure than out of sight and out of weather. The fact that there was someone else around to observe the DR, makes it questionable. I agree with not worrying about the contents. However the driver is responsible for the afety of the package when DRed regardless.

I've never been held responsible for a package that was driver released properly. People are constantly watching us; the neighbor next door and the one 3 doors down. As long as I, don't see a car following me, the package will get released. You know, UPS is telling drivers that send agains is costing the company money.

[soberups]

Originally Posted by City Driver

how is that racist

i didnt know rastafarian was a race

Rastafarianism is a religous belief, not a race.

It is prevalent in Jamaica, whose population is primarily of African descent...but that doesnt change the fact that it isnt a racial issue.

[satellitedriver]

Originally Posted by bigmistake

I had an 3 EAM's on Saturday. As soon as I saw the packages, I knew something was up. Local law enforcement used to come to our hub with a dog and screen packages, but they haven't been there in a while.

Anyways, the 3 packages were 13 lbs. each. They were going to a suburb of one of the poorest cities in the country. They were EAM, taped and glued throughout and the label stated to "leave on front porch, no signature required."

I get to the address, it's a dilapitated house, almost looked abandoned, no curtains, from the outside I could see piles of clothes insideand there were 2 shady individuals parked in a sedan across from the house.

I DR the 3 and went on my way. If you suspect something is up, do you have any obligation to report it? What would you have done?

I would have called my sups and stated my suspicions. If they say just drop it, then that is when I would be in a dilemma.
I have been doing this for long enough to know that when the hair on my neck tingles, I do not DR.

[feederdriver06]

Originally Posted by brownone

Nice racist comment with the Rasta man. When your kids get their hands on it I am sure that will be okay as well. Much of the illegal drug trade in the United States is also tied into terrorism as well. How about when he comes up to your package car and sticks a gun in your face and asks where his packages are? Will that make it personal enough for you to care about delivering illegal narcotics? Drug dealers come in all colors and races, they also tend to be vilolent offenders.

Im a white guy and I consider myself a Rasta man. So the term Rasta man has nothing to do with race . . . I use it talking about smoking pot. You on the other hand infered that Rasta man is a black guy(I'm assuming) and it is you that was racist. NICE JOB!

Who says kids are gonna get there hands on it?? FOXX news? A guy selling weed to his friends has nothing to do with kids.

Once again, who says illegal drugs are tied to terrorism? Your "lying to your face and you are sucking it up" elected officials?

Why would the Rasta man stick a gun in my face and totally blow his cover if he was doing something he wasn't supposed to when I'm going to deliver the packages to him and with a big smile say "have a nice day"?

I probably did deliver narcotics in my 10 years in package. Why would I care. I was paid to do a job and I did it.

Your statement about drug dealers tending to be violent offenders is totally inaccurate from my life's expierence. Umbrella statement that doesn't cover all.


How old are you 18? You have so much to learn about life

[Hoaxster]

Originally Posted by feederdriver06

Im a white guy and I consider myself a Rasta man. So the term Rasta man has nothing to do with race . . . I use it talking about smoking pot. You on the other hand infered that Rasta man is a black guy(I'm assuming) and it is you that was racist. NICE JOB!

Agreed ... typical racist but they don't see it.

[over9five]

Originally Posted by brownmonster

I wouldn't want to explain why I missed service on 3 Saturday Early A.M.'s. The 2 suspicious looking dudes in the car we're probably the On-Car and Center Manager spying on the driver.

LOL!!! Most likely scenario!

[over9five]

Originally Posted by DS

Although a dangerous move,you could have had a peek inside ,and if it was something nasty,you could have taken out the contraband,and replaced it with bibles,or Obama health care propaganda.

Can you imagine them opening the box?




"NOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!"

[over9five]

Originally Posted by Mike23

Those drugs gave me a job that day! If more people did drugs we'd have more drivers employed!

Something BD should look into....


Gives me an idea for a sales lead!

[satellitedriver]

Originally Posted by feederdriver06

Im a white guy and I consider myself a Rasta man. So the term Rasta man has nothing to do with race . . .
Really, White boy? The proof comes later.
I use it talking about smoking pot.
You use the term Rasta ,because you smoke and that is not the sole tenet of Rastafarism. You on the other hand infered that Rasta man is a black guy(I'm assuming) and it is you that was racist. NICE JOB!
These are the tenets of a Rasta;

One early leader of the movement in Jamaica was Leonard Howell, who was arrested by the Jamaican government in 1933 for preaching a 'revolutionary doctrine'. Howell established the first commune of Rastafari and six principles of Rastafari which have changed little over the years:
1) a hatred for the white race,

2) the complete superiority of the black race,

3) revenge on the wickedness of white peoples,

4) the negation, persecution and humiliation of the government and legal bodies of Jamaica,

5) preparation to return to Africa,

6) acknowledging Emperor Haile Salassie as the supreme being and only ruler of black people.
You choose strange bedfellows, white man.

Who says kids are gonna get there hands on it?? FOXX news? A guy selling weed to his friends has nothing to do with kids.
Your misuse of logic speaks for itself.

Once again, who says illegal drugs are tied to terrorism? Your "lying to your face and you are sucking it up" elected officials.
Your naivety about the Opium trade and the money flow does not surprise me.

Why would the Rasta man stick a gun in my face and totally blow his cover
Because, he was stoned and stupid. if he was doing something he wasn't supposed to when I'm going to deliver the packages to him and with a big smile say "have a nice day"?

I probably did deliver narcotics in my 10 years in package. Why would I care. I was paid to do a job and I did it.
Obviously, you only cared about yourself.

Your statement about drug dealers tending to be violent offenders is totally inaccurate from my life's expierence. Umbrella statement that doesn't cover all.
White boy, Rasta man, you are full of it, when you speak of "drug dealers" and your life experience.
My life experience, in the sub-culture of drugs, did involve "violent offenders", and it was not pretty.
Big dif in being a Stoner and a Rastifarian.


How old are you 18? You have so much to learn about life
How could you be so old and have not learned from life?

[feederdriver06]

I guess in your old age you have it all figured out don't you. Isn't it amazing the information you get out of your search engine in such a timely manner

I never said I was a rastafairian just a rasta and you knew exactly what I ment when I said it. No need to google your definition of rastafairian - that was really stupid most def.

The bleeding hearts of society will always use the "kids" word when it comes to the drug issue. The kids..the kids. What kids? Yeah, there are casualties- 200million population- there will be casualties but its more of a football that is kicked around to sway opinions.

Opium is the biggest cash engine in many countries and I'm sure some of the wealth funds military(considered legitimate military and non legitimate military - depends what side you're on when labeling such )which brings me to my point about "terrorists". There are no "terrorists". You have to look at the big picture and understand every battlefront has two sides. One would be deemed patriotic and one would be deemed terrorist. Once again, it depends on what side your on. "terrorist" is a media tool.

And whats this crap about my lifes experience being "full of it"? Yeah, it was "full of it". From 1986 to 1996 I smoked more pot in that period than most people will smoke in their entire lifetime. Am I bragging? NO. Am I ashamed in any way ? Why would I be. Did I have fun? HELL YES! I've known many dealers and spent almost 2 decades in or around the trade. Funny that when I had pounds of weed fronted to me or when I had to pay my bill handling thousands of dollars in cash no one pulled a gun and shot me because they were "stoned and stupid". It was just business between businessmen.

Every day is a learning expereince. Are you kidding me? The day you stop learning you start dying. Remember that. So my question to you is . . . are you still learning or did you start dying?

[satellitedriver]

Originally Posted by feederdriver06

I guess in your old age you have it all figured out don't you. Isn't it amazing the information you get out of your search engine in such a timely mannerThe cut and paste saved me typing of info that I already knew. Us, "old age" guy's are lazy.
Yes, Google is amazing and that is why I bought in at their IPO.

I never said I was a rastafairian just a rasta and you knew exactly what I ment when I said it.No, I only know Rasta's as Rastafarian's. No need to google your definition of rastafairian - that was really stupid most def.It might have been stupid of me, to clarify definitiions of terms used in ignorance.

The bleeding hearts of society will always use the "kids" word when it comes to the drug issue. The kids..the kids. What kids? Yeah, there are casualties- 200million population- there will be casualties but its more of a football that is kicked around to sway opinions.May I politely say, BS.

Opium is the biggest cash engine in many countries and I'm sure some of the wealth funds military(considered legitimate military and non legitimate military - depends what side you're on(I have picked my side) when labeling such )which brings me to my point about "terrorists". There are no "terrorists".( You lost all validity with that last statement.) You have to look at the big picture and understand every battlefront has two sides. One would be deemed patriotic and one would be deemed terrorist. Once again, it depends on what side your on. "terrorist" is a media tool. Wow, with your logic, Stalin, Adolph and Mao had every right to kill over 50 million, of their own people, and they controlled the media.

And whats this crap about my lifes experience being "full of it"? Yeah, it was "full of it". From 1986 to 1996 I smoked more pot in that period than most people will smoke in their entire lifetime. Am I bragging? NO. Am I ashamed in any way ? Why would I be. Did I have fun? HELL YES! I've known many dealers and spent almost 2 decades in or around the trade. Funny that when I had pounds of weed fronted to me or when I had to pay my bill handling thousands of dollars in cash no one pulled a gun and shot me because they were "stoned and stupid". It was just business between businessmen.You started in 86', I was in the middle of it in 68'. (Funny how those numbers transpose) .
Business between businessmen? Maybe, that is how it worked in the suburbs, of WhiteyTown, in1986.
Friend,
I have had a 38 pointed between my nipples because I walked into a room at the wrong time. Drug deals can get very ,messy.
Just one story, of the life.

Every day is a learning expereince. Are you kidding me? The day you stop learning you start dying. Remember that. So my question to you is . . . are you still learning or did you start dying?
Everyday is a living expereince.
To answer your direct question about learning,all I can say is that I try.
As to the dying part,
we all are, from the day we were born.

[Johney]

United
Pot
Smugglers

[feederdriver06]

* yawns *


logic. validity.


* laughs *


politely says:
WHA - TEVER

[WilPa Feeder Driver]

I would DR and move on with my day. If you don't we might loose the business to Fed Ex. HaHa.

[satellitedriver]

Originally Posted by feederdriver06

* yawns *


logic. validity.


* laughs *


politely says:
WHA - TEVER

Let your Freak Flag Fly!!!!!!

[hondo]

Driver fired for theft, drug dealing.
http://www.detnews.com/article/20091...358/1009/rss02

[rod]

You could have delivered it to the next crack house down the block- got a fake signature from them- left a delivery notice on the first crack houses door and laughed at the evening news about the drug wars on your route. With any luck they would have wiped each other out.

[upsguy72]

Originally Posted by bigmistake

I had an 3 EAM's on Saturday. As soon as I saw the packages, I knew something was up. Local law enforcement used to come to our hub with a dog and screen packages, but they haven't been there in a while.

Anyways, the 3 packages were 13 lbs. each. They were going to a suburb of one of the poorest cities in the country. They were EAM, taped and glued throughout and the label stated to "leave on front porch, no signature required."

I get to the address, it's a dilapitated house, almost looked abandoned, no curtains, from the outside I could see piles of clothes insideand there were 2 shady individuals parked in a sedan across from the house.

I DR the 3 and went on my way. If you suspect something is up, do you have any obligation to report it? What would you have done?

Didn't you get the memo UPS doesn't pay you to think. As one of my ORS would say when you start thinking you just get yourself in trouble

[Dis-organized Labor]

I'm still waiting for my freakin' packages Mon (Rasta-far-I)

I use de bud for inspiration to bash de AMT's, Mon (Rasta-far-I-a)

[Dis-organized Labor]

Originally Posted by covemaster

This guy sounds new & came here for advice from some old pro's,NOT to get made a fool of!!! First of all that side of town to me sounds like a non D.R area,and for some reason the pkg could be D.R it's always up to the driver!! If you don't feel comfortable with a D>R ,it's up to you!! Thats the way I was taught 20 yrs ago & I always stuck by it !!!!

Have some fun!!!

If one is looking here for some serious advice on this public board instead of their Sup/Mgr/Colleagues, they'll have to filter their "advice"