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10-14-2009, 07:10 AM
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I understand they are just doing their job, but is lying to drivers and not following through on things part of the job? Don't tell me what you think I want to hear, just tell me how it is!
Our CM just fired a driver for not delivering everything that was in EDD even though he never had those stops on his truck! He even called in those stops to the on-car and gave her the tracking #'s telling her they were never on his truck. It was a split that never made it to his car.
But I guess when you have a division manager out to make a name for himself and once said "I think every driver should be fired at least once", you better do what he says! After all, I guess management can get fired for failure to follow instructions too, no matter how asinine the instructions are.
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10-14-2009, 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by MISSED  Don't you know by now that they'll eat their own kind! | Welcome to Brown Cafe, Missed.
That was an........interesting....... first post.
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10-14-2009, 07:53 AM
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#28 | | Big Time Feeder Driver
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Originally Posted by MISSED Don't you know by now that they'll eat their own kind! | Hmm, maybe that's why they are mad. Isn't that how Mad Cow Desease spread? By feeding cow to cows? Maybe there is a correlation  .
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10-14-2009, 04:52 PM
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Middle management is a no-win position. They can spin it any way they want.
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10-14-2009, 05:11 PM
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#30 | | Livin the cardboard dream
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Originally Posted by dei8 Did you guys ever think how much pressure management is under? In my previous life, I was a retail manager and had to get out. I was tired of all the crap. My life mentally has been leaps and bounds better since becoming a driver. Not even close. Yes management sucks sometimes, but give them a little break. Think about all the whiny drivers. Trust me, we are not the easiest to deal with. I always said, I would rather be a manager at a retail store managing teenagers than most of our drivers. To me, most of the stupidity in this company comes from much higher. I know some sups that have apologized to me after they quit, saying they were just doing their job | Is a managers job to do what the higher ups tell them? Or is it to manage his people? Unfortunately UPS forces their managers to do things no one likes. That doesn't mean that the manager has to take out their aggression on their drivers. I couldn't think of a faster or dumber way make my job harder. Do what you have to do. Do the hard things you're told to do. Take it out on your supes and OMS's. Have a counselor on speed dial. Don't take it out on the people who have direct control over your raises and bonuses (if they ever come back.) We have 2 fantastic Center Managers in Spokane. We have 1 most people don't care for. The one no one likes has terrible numbers, high blood pressure, and two heart episodes. The other two have better numbers, but still have the blood pressure and I'm sure the heart episodes are still coming. Drivers go further for the manager that doesn't arse hole them because they're stressed from their job. I don't know why you'd make your job harder.
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10-14-2009, 05:38 PM
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our cm always looks like he is trying to pass a chili pepper. | |
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10-14-2009, 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by bigblu 2 you our cm always looks like he is trying to pass a chili pepper. | Blood? Sugar? Sex? Magic?
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10-14-2009, 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoaxster Blood? Sugar? Sex? Magic? | Gotta be one of the best. albums. ever.
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10-14-2009, 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoaxster Yep for 1 1/2 years Sept 77 - Feb 78. Best job I ever had at UPS.
Lots of whiny drivers back then ... some things never change ... I still whine today except I hide it behind a facade of sarcasm and cynicism. | lol old man,, that was when ups management was a creative force,, long before the IE push ruined us and our profits... thanks Mr Davis!!!!! | |
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10-14-2009, 06:10 PM
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as long as it is sarcasm and cynicism then that is ok you must have been a driver
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10-14-2009, 06:12 PM
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Maybe the CM has Bad Gas...I've had it before and it's not pleasant..uh..for anybody who is around...LOL
2)How many times a week do sup's and Cm's get their job threatened?...Probably often in our building...Our DM is a real charmer... | |
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10-14-2009, 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by hellfire lol old man,, that was when ups management was a creative force,, long before the IE push ruined us and our profits... thanks Mr Davis!!!!! | Between that and the CONSTANT UNENDING cost cutting Id say that guy has about failed at everything he has done since taking on CEO.
Even worse, the guy apparently doesnt realize that UNHAPPY WORKERS ARE NOT GOOD WORKERS. You cant **** all over your people and then expect them to go above and beyond whats being asked of them.
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10-14-2009, 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by ol'browneye I understand they are just doing their job, but is lying to drivers and not following through on things part of the job? Don't tell me what you think I want to hear, just tell me how it is!
Our CM just fired a driver for not delivering everything that was in EDD even though he never had those stops on his truck! He even called in those stops to the on-car and gave her the tracking #'s telling her they were never on his truck. It was a split that never made it to his car.
But I guess when you have a division manager out to make a name for himself and once said "I think every driver should be fired at least once", you better do what he says! After all, I guess management can get fired for failure to follow instructions too, no matter how asinine the instructions are. |
What was the reason given for firing a driver that called in stops that were in EDD but not on car? Thats happens in the thousands nationwide so why is this driver being singled out? | |
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10-18-2009, 07:52 PM
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#39 | | Senior Member
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Apparently, a pkg did not get delivered. It was perishable. The customer called in a complaint to corporate and that's where it went downhill. I guess if there is a corporate complaint, somebody's head has to roll somewhere.
Driver called in said pkgs to on-car supe. That supe had the day off on the day the crap hit the fan. Management assumed that the driver was guilty, like usual, without checking out his story by talking to the on-car supe. He was fired but re-instated the next day with back pay when the truth was found.
It gets better! The day the first driver was re-instated, the same management tried to fire another driver for the same thing. That driver had to point out to them that he was off on an optional holiday on the day in question!
How do some of these people sleep at night!
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10-18-2009, 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by ol'browneye It gets better! The day the first driver was re-instated, the same management tried to fire another driver for the same thing. That driver had to point out to them that he was off on an optional holiday on the day in question!
How do some of these people sleep at night! |
Unless asked the proper questions I would not have willingly told management I was out on an optional day. LOL. I'd take the firing and let the fact that I was on an optional that day pop up eventually and just enjoy my paid vacation. | |
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10-18-2009, 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Rob05 Why is it that its seems as though Center Managers are always in a bad mood. Is there a lot of presure on them or do most of them just hate there job. Seriously |
Pressure; pressure; pressure...............
Make the ops work; get some efficiencies; do more with less; on call 24/7; make it work; make it work; make it work.... | |
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10-18-2009, 09:54 PM
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#42 | | Bitingthe Hand that Feeds
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Originally Posted by Dis-organized Labor Pressure; pressure; pressure...............
Make the ops work; get some efficiencies; do more with less; on call 24/7; make it work; make it work; make it work.... |
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10-19-2009, 05:18 AM
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This is for the small minority of drivers (whiners... you know who you are) in every center. I'll tell you why c/m's are in a bad mood and under so much pressure....they are responsible for every mindless mistake a center makes during the course of the day. It has to be frustrating when they tell us to bring in our exception pkgs and presto, the center gets dinged for a number of exceptions the next day (all service failures) because the SP leaves them on car. They instruct us not to back unnecessarily and bingo, avoidable accident when we hit an overhang in a large parking lot. You want to see your c/m's mood change, go out and do your job like you were taught. Stop making excuses for your poor performance like "it's EDD's fault,"( the problem is your customer contact and massaging pkgs ) and be thankful you have a job with GREAT pay and benefits.  | |
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10-19-2009, 07:32 AM
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#44 | | You smell that?
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LOL
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10-19-2009, 09:54 AM
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#45 | | Big Time Feeder Driver
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Originally Posted by PoeCrosley Stop making excuses for your poor performance like "it's EDD's fault,"( the problem is your customer contact and massaging pkgs ) and be thankful you have a job with GREAT pay and benefits. | What a tool... I mean troll. It's probably both  .
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