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Old 10-15-2009, 08:49 PM   #26
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out of about 6 or 7 accidents in 28 years, only one was avoidable. rear ender.
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By always blaming the drivers for every accident does UPS open themselves up to more law suites? If you have an accident and a lawyer finds out that the mgt. said you (the driver) were at fault, could he use that fact against UPS in a suite.
Seems he could just get in front of a jury and tell them "Even UPS says he is guilty". I would think a good lawyer would have a slam dunk case.
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Old 10-15-2009, 09:09 PM   #28
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If you watch the video Ups didnt waste any time getting another truck there to take the stops. They prob made the driver finish out the day.

I saw that at the end of the video where the on car sup comes to save the day and ask the driver that just got hit head on. Will you be able to get all your air off? Then there is a message from the center saying NO LATE AIR! Even though you just saw someone DIE ON YOUR BUMPER!!!
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Old 10-15-2009, 10:03 PM   #29
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By always blaming the drivers for every accident does UPS open themselves up to more law suites? If you have an accident and a lawyer finds out that the mgt. said you (the driver) were at fault, could he use that fact against UPS in a suite.
Seems he could just get in front of a jury and tell them "Even UPS says he is guilty". I would think a good lawyer would have a slam dunk case.
You folks are mixing apples and oranges. There is at fault according to the law and what the police write up. There is avoidable, this is what UPS deems weather the driver could have "avoided" the accident. I'll agree, we go overboard on what's avoidable and what's not. But we aren't saying the driver is at fault for the accident. We are saying by not following methods, the driver could have avoided being hit. We hold our drivers to a higher standard then the law, and when the employee is between our standards and the law, it's avoidable.

Again, all it really does is cost a safe driving award, and a few days off. Relatively speaking no big deal.
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Old 10-15-2009, 11:31 PM   #30
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I find it disturbing that a young man was killed and another has to live with this for the rest of his or her life and all you are concerned about is putting down management.
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In my work group we had a driver hit by a drunk driver at night, running a stop side with no lights on, as he had just left a strip joint! (the drunk) Driver was charged with an accident.
Are you kidding about this?
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I find it disturbing that a young man was killed and another has to live with this for the rest of his or her life and all you are concerned about is putting down management.
Yes I am sorry that somebody lost their life and a UPS driver was involved.
I am trying to touch on when something out of your control happens, somebody from management who wasn't there will likely conclude that the UPS driver was at fault someway. I have seen it several times. It is ashame when your out there doing the best job you can do and something happens that is out of your hands but you get blamed for it.
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Again, all it really does is cost a safe driving award, and a few days off. Relatively speaking no big deal.
Its probably no big deal to the safety committee nitwit who is passing judgement from behind a desk...but to the driver in the real world who is being punished even though he didnt do anything wrong, it is a big deal.
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I agree!
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Its probably no big deal to the safety committee nitwit who is passing judgement from behind a desk...but to the driver in the real world who is being punished even though he didnt do anything wrong, it is a big deal.
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