Can a supervisor, manage while off duty? - Page 3 - Brown Cafe

grgrcr88 · 10-20-2009, 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by upssocks

are we on the same team? If i was playing short and you were playing second, would you file a grievance on me for covering second? Teammates wouldn't file a grievance on each other. We certainly are not teammates. The union is like managments farm system. We will call you when we need you.

dont feed the troll!!!

dilligaf · 10-20-2009, 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by over9five

So you admit to being unethical? I think that is mentioned in the UPS Code of Business Conduct. You know that is hourly work.

I have a copy of the 'Code of Conduct'. I can send it to him, he's probably never read it before.

over9five · 10-20-2009, 07:03 AM

Look at his responses. Jim Casey is spinning in his grave.

God, I miss the old days. These young sups have no clue.....

MC4YOU2 · 10-20-2009, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by UPSSOCKS

Are we on the same team? If I was playing short and you were playing second, would you file a grievance on me for covering second? Teammates wouldn't file a grievance on each other. We certainly are not teammates. The union is like managments farm system. We will call you when we need you.

You're in left field-at best. We are on the same team. You are like a steroid cheater trying to cover the bases without the basemen.

UPSSOCKS · 10-20-2009, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by brownmonster

Would a teammate give me a warning letter for bobbling a routine grounder? Would a teammate fire me for overthrowing 1st base with a runner sliding into me spikes up. Teammate is a 2 way street.

I never said we were teammates. I am a one man show....

UPSSOCKS · 10-20-2009, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by MC4YOU2

You're in left field-at best. We are on the same team. You are like a steroid cheater trying to cover the bases without the basemen.

There's nothing wrong with cheating, especially if your good at it.

UPSSOCKS · 10-20-2009, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by dilligaf

I have a copy of the 'Code of Conduct'. I can send it to him, he's probably never read it before.

Like I said before the Code of Conduct is only for the people that care about it.

UPSSOCKS · 10-20-2009, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by over9five

Look at his responses. Jim Casey is spinning in his grave.

God, I miss the old days. These young sups have no clue.....

I am saving Jim's company from error infested rentals called the teamsters.

If he saw the way you guys destroy packages, steal the contents in packages, throw packages, and spit on packages he would close the doors. What you see as work, I see as other peoples belongings. I was there in the good ol days, when the company was private. That's when things were good. That's when you got what you deserved. These young sups don't have a clue because UPS teaches them to be nice and fills their heads with happy thoughts. I've devoted the first ten months of the year to corrupting them one at a time.

UPSSOCKS · 10-20-2009, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by grgrcr88

dont feed the troll!!!

My comments fuel the fire and bring passion to the brown cafe. Go watch your winless football team.

By the by all they have to do is pray for forgiveness from the Terrible Towell and the curse will be lifted. They still haven't won a game since they stepped on it.

Sleeve_meet_Heart · 10-20-2009, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by UPSSOCKS

My comments fuel the fire and bring passion to the brown cafe. Go watch your winless football team.

By the by all they have to do is pray for forgiveness from the Terrible Towell and the curse will be lifted. They still haven't won a game since they stepped on it.

No one does part-time supervisor work better than a union member.

UPSSOCKS · 10-20-2009, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Sleeve_meet_Heart

No one does part-time supervisor work better than a union member.

That doesn't make much sense but ok...

rocket man · 10-20-2009, 12:41 PM

IS THIS A REAL POST how would a sup/ manager no whats on your pkg car?

Sleeve_meet_Heart · 10-20-2009, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by UPSSOCKS

That doesn't make much sense but ok...

When your delusional PT sup blinders are on, 1+1 = 2 probably doesn't click, either.

KidUPS · 10-20-2009, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoaxster

Full-time management are on the clock 24/7.
Would not advise to disobey their instructions.

I am part time and literally can receive phone calls 24/7! My lead will sometimes give me a call before my shift starts to try and clear up some e-mails or issues that occurred the previous night. Maybe one phone call everyone so often during the week. My operation ends around 12 and requires reports and the like to be done until 2. Normally a team of two supervisors handle the shift, managing their hours and both putting their share of operation and office work in. However, sometimes during a long night, the night supervisor might need some questions answered and might call at around 3am to get some info. I normally answer based entirely on the fact that we rely so much on each other as pt supervisors (just the way the full timer runs his sups, to lead on their own), and I would hope that he would answer my text or call if I had a question I needed help with.

We then have an employee working early am hours following up with customers who sometimes needs a little help...

In UPS I Stand.......charge....!!

Dis-organized Labor · 10-20-2009, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoaxster

Sorry it was late and a pretty lame attempt.
I realized they were not very good analogies ... that is why I asked if
"Let see how many other analogies we can come up with that are accepted, nay even applauded, in everyday life."

Maybe I'll think of some better ones today.

What about when you throw your dog a stick, which is he normally returns and then one time it is not returned? UNETHICAL!

What about when someone says: "I'll get right back to you"; then doesn't get back to you in the time frame that you consider to be "Right Back"? UNETHICAL!

Pretty bad, but that's all I can think of

Hoaxster · 10-20-2009, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by upsgrunt

Yet, drivers are required to be ethical- that's fine with me. I won't lower my standards just to move up the ladder.

Its not bad. After a while you don't even realize it.
Probably like when your wife married you ... she probably thinks you're an alright guy now.

YouTube - Todd Snider--Alright Guy

upsgrunt · 10-20-2009, 08:46 PM

[QUOTE=Hoaxster;620355]
Probably like when your wife married you ... she probably thinks you're an alright guy now.

The jury's still out on that one.

raceanoncr · 10-21-2009, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by UPSSOCKS

In my neck of the woods all the air pieces that miss the pull time for the air trailer, get loaded into the trunk of a part time sup's car. Then that young man drives as fast as he can to the airport to honor our committment to our customers...

This has GOT to be right out of the '88 playbook, cuz I ain't seen this done in more than 20 years! "...all the air pieces that miss the pull time for the air trailer" just get missed! Period! "We'll play the claim". Period!

raceanoncr · 10-21-2009, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by UPSSOCKS

It's cheaper and more efficient for the company to have to part time supervisor do it.

Well, duh! What amounts to about $5.00 PH and the threat of termination with no recourse is a REAL boost to "pedal to the metal".

raceanoncr · 10-21-2009, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoaxster

Let see how many other analogies we can come up with that are accepted, nay even applauded, in everyday life.

"I didn't have sex with that girl". Oh, wait. That's not an analogy, that's just a lie. BUT, accepted just the same.

raceanoncr · 10-21-2009, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by UPSSOCKS

I take matters into my own hands.

Uh, TMI, SOCKS, TMI!!!!!!

raceanoncr · 10-21-2009, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by UPSSOCKS

Besides I am pretty sure managment can move a package to save it from missing service.

I am too. Like off the records.

raceanoncr · 10-21-2009, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by UPSSOCKS

If I was playing your shorts and you were playing sloppy seconds, would you file a grievance on me for covering third?

You are really sick.

raceanoncr · 10-21-2009, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by UPSSOCKS

These young sups, like me, don't have a clue because UPS teaches them to be nice and fills their heads with happy thoughts. I've devoted the first ten months of the year to corrupting them and being an ass on BC one at a time.

Nice, SOCKS, Real nice!

UPS Lifer · 10-22-2009, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Big Babooba

Who are you? You're a UPS supervisor? How can I be sure? I don't recognize you! Where's your ID? How do I know that you're not a FedEx spy?

Article 20, section 5 of the UPS National Master Agreement states:
"All management personnel shall wear a name tag identifying them as supervision while on duty."

I've seen drivers refuse to speak to visiting management because they weren't wearing a name tag, even a Keter auditor! That takes balls!

I would redeliver it, then cover my ass and inform my supervisor what went down, stand back and enjoy the fireworks as egos clash.

But you said he asked you. That takes on a new light. I have to make the assumption that he didn't order you. I would do him the favor as a professional courtesy. I'd do it for another hourly without a squabble, why not management? After all, he may have a long memory and a short fuse. Your paths may cross again in the future. I'd still let my supervisor know.

Let's face it.... there are some people who just don't know how to deal with others. They can be on a power trip - but you are the one who is most likely going to suffer from it.

1. Treat this person like you would any other customer. BE POLITE and RESPECTFUL.
2. Ask for ID
3. If you did something that was not right - politely apologize and ensure the management person it will be corrected.
4. If the person has showed you identification and that they are a UPS management person and has instructed you to do something that will take you off plan - contact your supervisor immediately. You are responsible to your immediate center team not somebody like me! ...Except as noted below.

Something to remember - If you are doing something wrong especially if it is safety related, this person will probably call it in.

Anytime I saw something while on vacation and out of my own district, I would just let the driver know who I was and suggest they try an alternative to what they were doing. I would only interact if there was a problem with safety or security. The key to ensuring cooperation is to treat the driver with dignity and respect.

If the driver was in my district - I would give them instructions and expect them to follow those instructions or we could call his supervisor directly. If the driver failed to listen to me than I would take whatever steps I needed to to ensure this would not happen again.

Bottom line - MOST mgmt on vacation or retired will not bother you unless you are really doing something wrong - The most you will get is " HI - I am a UPS ___ from ____ " or they want to take a picture of your truck. So either you are dealing with the egotist or you need to fix something ...

So - be cautious... This was a great question to ask!!!