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Old 10-21-2009, 05:49 AM   #26
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Give it a shot, If you don't you;ll never know.

They might be hiring seasonal people for the Nite hub or preload in New Stanton which sounds like the best deal for you and your family situation.
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I drove for 2 school districts for a total of 6 yrs. High school, elementary and kindergarten. If you love kids and can deal well with them, take the bus driving job.

To me, school bus driving is alot like waitressing, I will never go back unless I have no choice.
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Tough decision, I'm not sure.

Read the news, there is a lot more violence on school busses than you'll ever see as a UPS driver.
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Tough decision, I'm not sure.

Read the news, there is a lot more violence on school busses than you'll ever see as a UPS driver.
..yes i do hear that. I think if I decide to do the school bus it will be with Headstart...with headstart..its ALL about safety and I have a helper on the bus with the young children......so I really don't have to worry about violence on the bus, driving for headstart as oppose to the elem/middle/high school. I will be going to my interview(UPS) and take it from there....the driver helper job is for seasonal anyway...if they decide to pick me for the job I will do it..its only for a month...and go from there...by reading about UPS it very unlikly I work the seasonal and then after get a driver job..so I just take whats given and work form there...do the seasonal job till Headstart comes through..I guess....

BTW...does anyone know the wages for driver helper in my area...Uniontown, PA, New Stanton, PA?? Thanks
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.by reading about UPS it very unlikly I work the seasonal and then after get a driver job..
Right now the probability of walking off the street and into a UPS driver job is equal to that of getting hit by lightning on a sunny day.

And if you were that one in a billion to walk into a driver job you would then have to pass the grueling probationary period. Someone in your physical condition would have an extremely difficult time with this. You need to show up to this job in great shape.
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Take the school bus driving job and forget about UPS!!!
option: take the school bus driving job. Sounds like you will get a c.d.l out of the deal and you will learn how to drive shift . If you ended up hating the job, apply to ups next year as a seasonal driver(many centers start hiring in the summer as well as early in the year. Just an idea

Ultimately you know all the facts about your situation, we don't. So weigh every thing you read on this thread and others, past and present and decide
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BTW...does anyone know the wages for driver helper in my area...Uniontown, PA, New Stanton, PA?? Thanks


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option: take the school bus driving job. Sounds like you will get a c.d.l out of the deal and you will learn how to drive shift . If you ended up hating the job, apply to ups next year as a seasonal driver(many centers start hiring in the summer as well as early in the year. Just an idea

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UPDATE: Went to interview..they weren't even really ready for us...told a little about the job had us write our info on paper and then she haded us paper with her writing telling us to come back next tues....2-3 of us at a time was coming and going...in middle of her talking people was coming..and get this they weren't even late...I was early..told us we will be on-call...that we may work 4 hrs here and maybe moree later...depends she said...we will get a call on the same day they need us and have to be ready,,,,WHAT..what about the ones with children/daycare...one woman said how she gonna be on call with a daycare.....I don't know...I told her my children's father will be watching mine...then she said that this position is a way to get out foot in the door....so I will update nxt week...when I go back in...and also she didn't know the wages we have to wait till nxt week...(shaking my head) Oh well what can you do....just take and deal with it..its life....(I guess)
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UPDATE: Went to interview..they weren't even really ready for us...told a little about the job had us write our info on paper and then she haded us paper with her writing telling us to come back next tues....2-3 of us at a time was coming and going...in middle of her talking people was coming..and get this they weren't even late...I was early..told us we will be on-call...that we may work 4 hrs here and maybe moree later...depends she said...we will get a call on the same day they need us and have to be ready,,,,WHAT..what about the ones with children/daycare...one woman said how she gonna be on call with a daycare.....I don't know...I told her my children's father will be watching mine...then she said that this position is a way to get out foot in the door....so I will update nxt week...when I go back in...and also she didn't know the wages we have to wait till nxt week...(shaking my head) Oh well what can you do....just take and deal with it..its life....(I guess)
it doesn't surprise me one bit, this is very typical
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Sorry about the experience but this sounds like the UPS I go to everyday.
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I drove for 2 school districts for a total of 6 yrs. High school, elementary and kindergarten. If you love kids and can deal well with them, take the bus driving job.

To me, school bus driving is alot like waitressing, I will never go back unless I have no choice.
school bus driving is also a lot like waitressing in that you can go back when you need to .
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school bus driving is also a lot like waitressing in that you can go back when you need to .
LOL That is another way to look at it!
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UPDATE: Went to interview..they weren't even really ready for us...told a little about the job had us write our info on paper and then she haded us paper with her writing telling us to come back next tues....2-3 of us at a time was coming and going...in middle of her talking people was coming..and get this they weren't even late...I was early..told us we will be on-call...that we may work 4 hrs here and maybe moree later...depends she said...we will get a call on the same day they need us and have to be ready,,,,WHAT..what about the ones with children/daycare...one woman said how she gonna be on call with a daycare.....I don't know...I told her my children's father will be watching mine...then she said that this position is a way to get out foot in the door....so I will update nxt week...when I go back in...and also she didn't know the wages we have to wait till nxt week...(shaking my head) Oh well what can you do....just take and deal with it..its life....(I guess)

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UPDATE: then she said that this position is a way to get out foot in the door....

LOL. They are dangling the proverbial carrot. They will say anything to get you to show up. And after Christmas they will drop you like a bad habit.
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I drove a school bus in high school. Best job I have ever had. Picked up 60 of my best friends. All middle school and high school. I can even remember the bus number-503-4023
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LOL..that is really funny and informative. Thank You. I'm in ok shape not great shape per-say...I'm a thick curvy woman...190 pds 5'9....I use to play basketball way back when..lol...maybe I will reconsider....my ex-husband told me the same thing all of you all are saying...I want to thank you all for the GREAT advice.....all of you are really very nice and informative...Thanks alot....I have an interview today (2:30)....for the helper...I may just cancel it...or just work for the season till the other job (bus driver) comes through..I have an interview with Headstart in my area for a full time bus driver with benefits on Friday and another interview with First Student (Bus driver) on Mon...you still think I should just forget the seasonal help all together?...I just want a good job to take care of my family and to be a the company for a looong time and to be happy...
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I dont know where to start.
First of all congrats on 7 wonderful children,
2nd and then Ups doesnt care that you have 7 children. They only care that you show up.
From my perspective as a single mother of only 2, the part time job worked great. I am thankful for unanswered prayers I did not go full time until they were in high school. It would have been a nightmare, and the guilt would have killed me, not to mention with the part time position, I was able to make a decent wage, for that time 1984-1992 and make most events.
3rd I would take whatever I could get to get the flavor. If you take the seasonal helper, and you are good and let them know that you have interest in becoming permanent pt, they will keep you in mind. Especially if you make an impression on the drivers who will keep you in mind.
4th when I was interviewed I was told, "we dont want a call that you cant make it in because of child care, sick kids whatever, we need dependability" So today that would be a violation of some eeoc rule, but then there wasnt one I was aware of. You should be proud to have such a large wonderful family, but if asked that question which you shouldnt be asked as they dont ask the men, you tell them "I am planning to enter the workforce and all the details of child care have been addressed. Period. And in my vast experience at UPS there are as many men who call off when kids are sick as there are women. Just thought I would add that.
5th It does not matter what shape you are in. Unless grossly overweight, and you weigh what I do, which is a little high, but I can still tear up the younger guys in endurance, I ve been around longer The shape you think you are in is irrelevant. Ive seen Hulk Hogan looking guys cry by the end of a day. And quit. And little twig guys and girls eat it up and love it. You will hurt where you didnt know you had places, and then the alarm will go off and you will want to cry, but you do it again for your family.
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If this is really what youu want, then give it your best shot. I hate to sound like a downer, but the odds are stacked against you. You said you are 33, and that is getting a late start. I hope you are in great physical condition, because if you are not, it will show up real soon. Many womens bodies can't take the beating of handling all those packages and getting in and out of the package car 150+ times a day. I've seen a lot of them come and go in my nearly 30 years. A few of them were athletes at Division1 college programs. They left either broken or with scars. Get used to the aches and pains.
Achieving seniority is a slow process with the economy the way it is. Like some of the others have said, it can take years to get a chance to drive, and you will be a cover driver for who knows how long. By then you will most likely be in your 40's.
If I was in your shoes, I'd go for the school bus. The load walks on and walks off.
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I have been working at ups for over 12 years. I am now 45. I have been driving full time for 9 yrs. If you want something bad enough like the security to take care of yourself and your family then take the chance of having a future. You can have a future at ups IF you are willing to work your ass off. When I started part time, I worked 2 jobs to make ends meet. The benefits you get are worth the blood sweat and tears you shed for this job. And yes, you will shed all the above if you work for this company. You will pay your dues like with all jobs but you are not too old to start. You will also drive in all kinds of weather, be prepared ups dont stop for blizzards!! It is a very hard job and I deliver pkgs that weight more then I do. I missed alot of school functions my kids were involved in because you deliver til your done. The body hurts and aches and motrin becomes your best friend. But if you are looking for a "rest of your life job" and your willing to go out and kick butt every day give it a try. The benefits greatly out weight the cons.
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..then she said that this position is a way to get out foot in the door..
This is not true. If you got on the part time seniority list then your foot would be in the door. By contract helpers can be worked until the end of December(rarely work after Christmas eve though) after that you will be told don't call us we'll call you.
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This is not true. If you got on the part time seniority list then your foot would be in the door. By contract helpers can be worked until the end of December(rarely work after Christmas eve though) after that you will be told don't call us we'll call you.
I KNEW it wasn't true....THEY are HUNGREY for workers around this time and will tell us anything. It doesn't matter....I will work for the seasonal time and go from there....I'm 33 and I do have a family...and money isn't everything...as long as I have a job and taking care of my family..I'll have my CDL real soon sooo I have lots of options....I'll go from there.

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TO ALL the UPS workers....You all are really GREAT! HARDWORKING! ..and I just wanted to say Thanks. Before I thought about joining UPS I didn't know the drivers/package handlers/ etc...work soooo HARD for your customers, YOUR BOSS, YOUR FAMILY! They should have a UPS DAY for all the UPS workers and their HARD WORK! I want to let you guys know this...cause your jobs are important...and alot of people don't see that...You ALL deserve more then what you are getting! Keep up the GOOD WORK! and Keep staying STRONG! through the ups and downs.
.....Just wanted to let you ALL know that!
Be BLess!
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