Are tieguy and upssocks one and the same? - Page 2 - Brown Cafe

brownmonster · 10-29-2009, 06:02 PM

I knew Tieguy and UPSSOCKS, you are no Tieguy.

pickup · 10-29-2009, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by soberups

I had nothing to do with anything.

He was mad because his post got pulled by a moderator. I had nothing to do with it getting pulled. I'm not a moderator.

He felt that I was getting preferential treatment because mine werent getting pulled...which wasnt true. I also had one get pulled. Again, I am not a moderator and have no say in what does and does not get yanked. I have never complained to a moderator and I have never flagged a post or requested that it be deleted.

the highlighted part is to the degree you had something to do with it . "He felt"

As I mentioned before, last week in the chatroom, tieguy popped in and typed one thing after lurking for a few minutes . I believe it was "sober" or something to that effect. He then left the room. Fethrs and Klein were also there when he did that. So clearly, you are on his mind in one way or another.

pickup · 10-29-2009, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoaxster

I have to back up Sober on this one. Sober was in the neighborhood but he had no direct involvement in what Tie got mad about.

let me ask you this hoax, after my initial post on this thread. All of upssock's 102 posts have disappeared. Did he do this or did a moderator delete them?

If they were still standing, you would see a pattern of tie guy posting a lot on some days and upssocks posting on other days with both taking a weekend off . This was before the transformation to Mr. Hyde became permanent on Oct. 3 with just upssocks posting after tieguy stopped.

Hoaxster · 10-29-2009, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by pickup

So clearly, you are on his mind in one way or another.

I don't think tie is going to quit sober, he'll break back.

705red · 10-29-2009, 07:08 PM

Upssocks is not Ties second screen name. Tie does bleed brown and loves a good verbal debate, and I have been on the other side of them many times. But Tie being old school like he is would never ever post the things that socks did.

I would have to say either dragon or hoaxter would fit socks style. They are the only 2 to positive rep the IDIOT, but dragon probably isn't smart enough to figure out how to register to this site again. And since all of socks posts have been deleted since this thread was started only one of these two has that kind of power. And we all know how he likes to abuse it, so my guess is hoaxter!

Hoaxster · 10-29-2009, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 705red

Upssocks is not Ties second screen name. Tie does bleed brown and loves a good verbal debate, and I have been on the other side of them many times. But Tie being old school like he is would never ever post the things that socks did.

I would have to say either dragon or hoaxter would fit socks style. They are the only 2 to positive rep the IDIOT, but dragon probably isn't smart enough to figure out how to register to this site again. And since all of socks posts have been deleted since this thread was started only one of these two has that kind of power. And we all know how he likes to abuse it, so my guess is hoaxter!

Another example of your astute powers of deduction.
Love you man ... always amusing.

pickup · 10-29-2009, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by pickup

let me ask you this hoax, after my initial post on this thread. All of upssock's 102 posts have disappeared. Did he do this or did a moderator delete them?

Hoaxster, the question still stands and let me remind you that you are still under oath. Did he do this or did a moderator delete them?

whiskey · 10-29-2009, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Johney

Your right! I'm more p/o'd at myself for wasting 2 or 3 minutes reading this thread

Who shivs a git? Can't we all just get along?

Hoaxster · 10-29-2009, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by whiskey

Who shivs a git? Can't we all just get along?

Maybe if it wasn't for IE.

tieguy · 10-29-2009, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by pickup

I noticed that upssocks has made quite a mark in the 100 posts he has posted since joining sometime in mid September. One thing that struck me as rather odd is that he actually had a small positive rep which meant someone thought his posts(which essentially are playing the same note) were worthy of such a distinction. That meant someone else with a positive rep had to give it to him. The only one with an axe to grind against teamsters (and with a well deserved positive reputation) would be Tieguy. Especially since his dustup with the moderators and soberups in a thread I can't seem to find anymore.

Since that time, tieguy has essentially disappeared. Enter upssocks who is as anti union as soberups is antimanagement. Then there was a period of from from )9/28 to 10-3 where upssocks disappeared and Tieguy was banging in a few posts and then on 10-03, Tieguy got a few posts in and then it looks like the baton was passed on to upssocks who has been posting since 10-03(after a break that tie guy filled in on) . According to the recent posts feature , tie guy posted last on 10-03 while upssocks, since that time has been posting non stop

The other thing is that upssocks is not a dummy, his posts are well written just like tieguy's posts were and remarkably in the same style.

I did have a tieguy sighting in chat last week, he checked in and mentioned the word "sober" and then checked out.

As I write this post, I see the green lights on tieguy and upssocks , although nothing new from tieguy.

Come on tieguy, you made your point. But let's face it , after ten thousand posts here, you are addicted and couldn't walk away so you created your antiunion alterego upssocks in order to feed your addiction to posting , provide yourself an outlet for your antiunion sentiments (in exact opposition to soberups), as well as to feed your need for revenge against what you feel is an antimanagement website

How close did I hit to the mark this time tieguy?(ok, I was off the mark yesterday) Come back we miss you. Halloween is saturday. On sunday, take your mask off and come back as lovable tieguy.

I'm so sure of what I said above that I wish I had the opportunity to bet my next paycheck on it

Interesting question. I really hope you don't believe the theme of my posts has been to bash the unions or the fine people that work for us. I can appreciate the benifits of collective bargaining that the union offers I have problems with some of the anti company dialogue and actions that comes as a result. I've had my issues with the brainwashed union goons but overall love and admire the folks in brown who I believe come in and emulate Casey's vision of an employee that can be a good union person and a good upser.

I've been out of the game since mid September. moved my daughter into vet school. came back and came down with a staph infection that took weeks to diagnose as part of a medical condition known as endocarditis. Basically the infection attacked my aortic heart valve. Resulted in open heart surgery and my valve getting replaced. I'm now in the convalescence stage of post op sitting at home and staring at the walls and trying to rebuild my strength. Its been a hell of a journey this past month and one I did not see coming. I've always been the type that never saw a doctor and went eighteen years since my last sick day. This little adventure has put me in touch with my own mortality and again given me reason to appreciate my one and only wife and the the enormous help she has been to me as I went through this and the tremendous help she has been as I go through recovery.

One correction on the chat room. My point in the chat room is that I had no problem with Sober ups but the point I felt I was not allowed to use the same message board posting tactics here that he was.

Overall not in the mood to debate still enjoy popping in and reading the thoughts of others here.

tieguy · 10-29-2009, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by klein

Seems close to me, too. Thinking about it. Arguing with him as well.
What does a manager or sup benefit from, from having UPS making "super" profits ?
Asking us to take pay cuts, while they, (UPS company) even forecast a much larger profit next year.

Typical Manager, thanks union guys, for still making us profitable in the worst recession in our lifetime, but, can you please take a paycut?

For whom ? Tie ?

this is the type of stupidity I'm trying to avoid while I recuperate. Someone tell this guyI took some compensation cuts this year.

Hoaxster · 10-29-2009, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by tieguy

I've been out of the game since mid September. moved my daughter into vet school. came back and came down with a staph infection that took weeks to diagnose as part of a medical condition known as endocarditis. Basically the infection attacked my aortic heart valve. Resulted in open heart surgery and my valve getting replaced. I'm now in the convalescence stage of post op sitting at home and staring at the walls and trying to rebuild my strength. Its been a hell of a journey this past month and one I did not see coming. I've always been the type that never saw a doctor and went eighteen years since my last sick day. This little adventure has put me in touch with my own mortality and again given me reason to appreciate my one and only wife and the the enormous help she has been to me as I went through this and the tremendous help she has been as I go through recovery.

Holy Smokes Tie! Glad you made it through and hope you get well soon.
Good to see your wagging tail again.
Take care and we'll be looking for you on the boards.

Hoaxster

BrownSuit · 10-29-2009, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by pickup

that could work but it also might not. Once could easily use a proxy server to hide one's ip address . For example , if a guy is in jersey, and he uses a proxy server in chicago , it will show up with the ip and the location of the proxy server in chicago even though he is using another ip to connect to that proxy server.

I wonder if that test can even be done now because all of upssock's posts have disappeared.

Okay, this is going rather over the deep end. This is a chat board, not the CIA or FBI. We are talking about a bunch of people who work/worked or have interest in the same company (some as trolls). Do you honestly think that people would take time out of their day to do what you've indicated above?

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Originally Posted by pickup

Hoaxster, the question still stands and let me remind you that you are still under oath. Did he do this or did a moderator delete them?

So is hoax now on the witness stand as a moderator? When did he get sworn in? You are taking this way too far. Are there not any Feeder rumors that we can feed on (pun intended)?

Do I not recall conversations where UPSSOCKS was linked to a previous troll with a sick obsession for socks who would come back on with different names. Would it not reason that this is a good explanation and because he was a troll the posts were deleted?

Also to Tie, hope you get to feeling better. I know that you'll want to get back in the saddle here very shortly to make sure your house is in order for peak. Take it easy this year.

klein · 10-29-2009, 07:43 PM

Tie, even with our small differences.
I wish you well, and a darn good recovery !

Sad to hear, you went thru all this.
But, glad to hear you're back, and have progressed regarding your health.

No hard feelings.
I do like everyone on here, including you.
And, don't wish anyone to go thru a difficult illness, like yourself.

Best Wishes to you, and your loving wife and family !

iowa boy · 10-29-2009, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoaxster

Holy Smokes Tie! Glad you made it through and hope you get well soon.
Good to see your wagging tail again.
Take care and we'll be looking for you on the boards.

Hoaxster

X2 here Tie. Good luck with your recovery. Sounds like you've been thru hell and back again. Good to know you are on your way back from this. Its good to see you on the boards again, but don't wag your tail 'til you are ready.

Iowa

ps best wishes on a speedy recovery.

scratch · 10-29-2009, 07:44 PM

I second that, Tie. I hope you recover completely and everything goes well with you. I have noticed and wondered about your absence, I never thought you were UPSSOCKS. You are a long time member of this community and I enjoy reading your side of things.

Hoaxster · 10-29-2009, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by pickup

Hoaxster, the question still stands and let me remind you that you are still under oath. Did he do this or did a moderator delete them?

Neither the original poster (try it your self) or Moderators have the power to cause what happened here.
I wonder if some super sleuth hacker has taken over this site and did this?

I'm really concerned about this ... I'm going to report this to Cheryl. This does not look good ... supernatural happenings right before Halloween.

ol'browneye · 10-29-2009, 08:01 PM

Get well soon Tie!

pickup · 10-29-2009, 08:15 PM

well tie I owe you an apology . I think. I thought that the writing style (which I recognized as of an intelligent person) was of a character you created in response to what happened with your deleted video . Around that time you were pissed off and accused the moderators of this board of unfair treatment and stated that the board was predominantly antimanagement.

I thought this character was to prove a point.

I thought I recognized the writing style and like a penny that finally dropped . It hit me . I said to myself that this is tieguy playing a role to make a point. i then checked the posting history and saw that his dates of his posting and yours kind of weaved in and out like a pattern. I.e, one would post a lot the other wouldn't. Both took the same or three days off and then tieguy came back and posted for a few days and on the day you stopped posting, upssocks started posting again with a flurry that got him to over one hundred posts.

I wish you could look at the dates but suddenly, all of upssocks posts have disappeared.

Hope you get well soon tieguy.

As for the other poster who said that it would be a lot of trouble to go use a proxy server, it takes 2 seconds to set up and no time to use it afterward and it is free

Yeah, and you missed the swearing in of hoaxster because it never happened. It was a joke. I was surprised that he ducked the question while answering another latter post in the thread

dilligaf · 10-29-2009, 08:27 PM

I just PM'd this to Pickup.
"OMG! What made you ask that question? I PM (MOD) last night and (MOD) this morning asking the very same question. I swear that Socks posts sound exactly like Tie on a tirade. I never got an answer from either one."

I asked 2 different mods, 1 last night and the other this morning. Both mods have ignored my question. The posts of Socks had been driving me crazy for a few days. I could not figure out why they were so familiar. Then last night it came to me and I asked. So all you guys that are jumping on Pickup chill. He is not the only one that thought this.

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Originally Posted by pickup

I know this, all posts by upssocks have disappeared. Not a trace of them can be found (only when someone quoted him) . That disappearing act happened sometime after my thread starting post today.

Hard to compare styles when one's style is gone.

Moderators, did any of you delete all his posts?

I did find a post of Socks in "World Series battle......".

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Originally Posted by soberups

No they arent the same.

Tieguy is highly intelligent. I wouldnt even necessarily classify him as "anti-union", any more than I am "anti-management". We both want the same thing, we just disagree on how to get there.

Upssocks on the other hand is nothing more than a troll. His posts are little more than spam, repetitive drivel with no real content or thought, devoid of any purpose other than to incite anger.

You are right Sober, Tie is intelligent. Intelligent enough to easily pull off something like this. And nowhere did I read in any of Tie's posts that he is NOT Socks. "I hope you don't think the theme of my posts...." quoted from Tie Not a denial just a diversion.

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Originally Posted by pickup

Hoaxster, the question still stands and let me remind you that you are still under oath. Did he do this or did a moderator delete them?

Tie easily has enough clout to have anyone of the mods to pull posts.

Tie, I truly hope you are healing well.

rod · 10-29-2009, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by pickup

well tie I owe you an apology . I think. I thought that the writing style (which I recognized as of an intelligent person) was of a character you created in response to what happened with your deleted video . Around that time you were pissed off and accused the moderators of this board of unfair treatment and stated that the board was predominantly antimanagement.

I thought this character was to prove a point.

I thought I recognized the writing style and like a penny that finally dropped . It hit me . I said to myself that this is tieguy playing a role to make a point. i then checked the posting history and saw that his dates of his posting and yours kind of weaved in and out like a pattern. I.e, one would post a lot the other wouldn't. Both took the same or three days off and then tieguy came back and posted for a few days and on the day you stopped posting, upssocks started posting again with a flurry that got him to over one hundred posts.

I wish you could look at the dates but suddenly, all of upssocks posts have disappeared.

Hope you get well soon tieguy.

As for the other poster who said that it would be a lot of trouble to go use a proxy server, it takes 2 seconds to set up and no time to use it afterward and it is free

Yeah, and you missed the swearing in of hoaxster because it never happened. It was a joke. I was surprised that he ducked the question while answering another latter post in the thread

Don't give up so quick pickup. This could all be part of ties great cover up---- just like that supposed astronauts landing on the moon thing was years ago.

P.S. Get well soon tie

Hoaxster · 10-29-2009, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by dilligaf

The posts of Socks had been driving me crazy for a few days. I could not figure out why they were so familiar. Then last night it came to me and I asked. So all you guys that are jumping on Pickup chill. He is not the only one that thought this.

Does this mean we can jump on you ?

Just Numbers · 10-29-2009, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by tieguy

Interesting question. I really hope you don't believe the theme of my posts has been to bash the unions or the fine people that work for us. I can appreciate the benifits of collective bargaining that the union offers I have problems with some of the anti company dialogue and actions that comes as a result. I've had my issues with the brainwashed union goons but overall love and admire the folks in brown who I believe come in and emulate Casey's vision of an employee that can be a good union person and a good upser.

I've been out of the game since mid September. moved my daughter into vet school. came back and came down with a staph infection that took weeks to diagnose as part of a medical condition known as endocarditis. Basically the infection attacked my aortic heart valve. Resulted in open heart surgery and my valve getting replaced. I'm now in the convalescence stage of post op sitting at home and staring at the walls and trying to rebuild my strength. Its been a hell of a journey this past month and one I did not see coming. I've always been the type that never saw a doctor and went eighteen years since my last sick day. This little adventure has put me in touch with my own mortality and again given me reason to appreciate my one and only wife and the the enormous help she has been to me as I went through this and the tremendous help she has been as I go through recovery.

One correction on the chat room. My point in the chat room is that I had no problem with Sober ups but the point I felt I was not allowed to use the same message board posting tactics here that he was.

Overall not in the mood to debate still enjoy popping in and reading the thoughts of others here.

Tie, Take the time you need to get well. I've gone through triple bypass surgery twice and recovery comes one day at a time. Sitting at home and staring at the walls and trying to get your strength...there is no better way to describe it. I also am blessed with a wife that provided enormous help all the way through recovery. You will start to feel like you can conquer the world again then your body wipes out that idea in about 15 minutes. Ups never pressured me to come back until the doctors said it was ok and they were very supportive. I hope it is no different with you as you are in management. Anyway I wish the best for you.

pickup · 10-29-2009, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by rod

Don't give up so quick pickup. This could all be part of ties great cover up---- just like that supposed astronauts landing on the moon thing was years ago.

that was cia disinformation rod, not only did we land then , we have been landing there at least 5 times a years for the last four decades. Now that the chinese and indians are sniffing around the moon, we blew up our space base on october 10th under the guise of trying to find water so they can't find out what we were up to all that time.
P.S. Get well soon tie

dilligaf · 10-29-2009, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoaxster

Does this mean we can jump on you ?

Oh, I have no doubt that someone is going to!