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10-31-2009, 11:01 AM
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#1 | | Junior Member
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Rep Power: 0 | Special treatment to shop stewart. I noticed in our bldg. that management gave our shop stewards a special treatment like going out with less stops, asking for a day off any day and etc... Is your bldg. have the same treatment with our building. |
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10-31-2009, 11:48 AM
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#2 | | Man of Great Wisdom
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Rep Power: 13650 | Re: Special treatment to shop stewart. No drivers named Stewart in our building.
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10-31-2009, 12:01 PM
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#3 | | Senior Member
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Rep Power: 2490 | Re: Special treatment to shop stewart. 
Seems appropriate |
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10-31-2009, 12:04 PM
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10-31-2009, 12:13 PM
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#5 | | Senior Member
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10-31-2009, 12:20 PM
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#6 | | retired and happy
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Rep Power: 12523 | Re: Special treatment to shop stewart. before you get beat up beyond recognition- it is steward not stewart |
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10-31-2009, 12:27 PM
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#7 | | Senior Member
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Rep Power: 1143 | Re: Special treatment to shop stewart. no i am a steward and i get no special treatment. my cm does not like me and follows. call your union hall and let them know. |
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10-31-2009, 12:39 PM
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#8 | | Wrapped around her finger
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Rep Power: 10840 | Re: Special treatment to shop stewart. Quote:
Originally Posted by superupsman I noticed in our bldg. that management gave our shop stewards a special treatment like going out with less stops, asking for a day off any day and etc... Is your bldg. have the same treatment with our building. | Your stewards should be allowed the same benefits as any driver with their seniority would receive. Beyond that they should be treated as any other driver.
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10-31-2009, 12:52 PM
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#9 | | Senior Member
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Rep Power: 2490 | Re: Special treatment to shop stewart. Quote:
Originally Posted by cachsux Your stewards should be allowed the same benefits as any driver with their seniority would receive. Beyond that they should be treated as any other driver. | Should..rarely happens, though. |
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10-31-2009, 01:00 PM
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Rep Power: 39 | Re: Special treatment to shop stewart. Quote:
Originally Posted by superupsman I noticed in our bldg. that management gave our shop stewards a special treatment like going out with less stops, asking for a day off any day and etc... Is your bldg. have the same treatment with our building. |
Yes, our building is the same. Is it because of special treatment? No. Its because they're not on the belt looking at their load until start time. They take their lunch and breaks near noon each day whether its peak or summer. They don't even upload the EDD until start time. They attend every PCM. Their pick up compliance is 100% every day regardless how many miles out of the way it is. They walk off every stop.
Yes, they go out with less stops. Yes, management is happy to give them off whenever they want. When they take a day off management can add 20-30 more stops. |
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10-31-2009, 01:12 PM
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#11 | | ModSta in Training
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Originally Posted by cachsux Your stewards should be allowed the same benefits as any driver with their seniority would receive. Beyond that they should be treated as any other driver. | But then who would management apply Double Standards to?
Oh yeah, they still have the butt kissers. Quote:
Originally Posted by rod before you get beat up beyond recognition- it is steward not stewart  | Too late ... I like the responses - LOL.
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10-31-2009, 01:20 PM
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#12 | | Member
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Originally Posted by rod before you get beat up beyond recognition- it is steward not stewart  | Like a Wine Steward in a fancy restaurant.
Unless he's a chronic complainer. Then he's a Whine Steward. |
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10-31-2009, 01:46 PM
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#13 | | Bitingthe Hand that Feeds
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Rep Power: 27414 | Re: Special treatment to shop stewart. He gets special treatment because hes good enough, hes smart enough, and doggone it...people like him.
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10-31-2009, 01:49 PM
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#14 | | Bubblehead
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10-31-2009, 01:58 PM
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#15 | | Bubblehead
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Rep Power: 1935 | Re: Special treatment to shop stewart. Damn it Sober, you beat me to it.
Great minds...
I'm going to rush Stuart over to the gay thread. |
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10-31-2009, 02:07 PM
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#16 | | retired and happy
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10-31-2009, 02:39 PM
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#17 | | Moderator
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Rep Power: 18428 | Re: Special treatment to shop stewart. Good thread! We should sticky the responses as it seems to be a common error.
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10-31-2009, 02:44 PM
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#18 | | Senior Member
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Rep Power: 63 | Re: Special treatment to shop stewart. There should be a good working relationship. That is necessary to produce favorable outcomes in the office, but no special treatment. That's the way it is for me |
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10-31-2009, 04:01 PM
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#19 | | Bitingthe Hand that Feeds
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Rep Power: 27414 | Re: Special treatment to shop stewart. A shop steward who exploits his position in order to recieve any sort of preferential treatment from management needs to get his ass kicked in the parking lot after work. Then he needs to be brought up on charges before the local and relieved of his duties as a steward.
I'm a steward. I neither ask nor expect to be treated differently from any other employee.
You could make the argument that many stewards are in fact treated differently simply by virtue of the fact that they are often more willing to file grievances and stand up for themselves than other employees.
The hyena treats the big strong bull with horns differently than the smaller and weaker specimens.
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10-31-2009, 04:09 PM
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#20 | | Senior Member
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Rep Power: 250 | Re: Special treatment to shop stewart. True Sober, I am a steward as well. When you first start you get treated just the oposite, followed all the time, harassed more than anyone. As if the company wants to show you they still have the power(and they do don't get me wrong, when all is said and done they are still the boss). However after a while of not backing down, kicking there asses on grievances and not giving them any thing to get you on, they earn a bit of respect for you and generally will treat you as such, that is if you treat them with respect. Don't think that makes me a pushover though, I have raised my voice more than once, and have been in many heeted arguments with both, CM, DM and LM.
No Steward should be given preferential treetment though, no matter what the case!! |
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10-31-2009, 04:10 PM
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#21 | | Moderator
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Rep Power: 18428 | Re: Special treatment to shop stewart. In Package, my steward was often sent out with less air. It wasn't special treatment, it was just that he had to represent members in the office every morning so he wouldn't have time to get them all off.
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10-31-2009, 05:06 PM
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#22 | | Bubblehead
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Rep Power: 1935 | Re: Special treatment to shop stewart. Quote:
Originally Posted by bumped Yes, our building is the same. Is it because of special treatment? No. Its because they're not on the belt looking at their load until start time. They take their lunch and breaks near noon each day whether its peak or summer. They don't even upload the EDD until start time. They attend every PCM. Their pick up compliance is 100% every day regardless how many miles out of the way it is. They walk off every stop.
Yes, they go out with less stops. Yes, management is happy to give them off whenever they want. When they take a day off management can add 20-30 more stops. | You hit the nail dead on the head.
Take note!!!
Although I'm sure there is a bad apple or two acroos the country, this is most assuredly the norm.
I've said before, I'll say it again, it's just a game be a player.
If you want to no how, ask your steward.
Don't hate the player, hate the game. |
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10-31-2009, 05:19 PM
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#23 | | Wrapped around her finger
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Rep Power: 10840 | Re: Special treatment to shop stewart. Out of my group of drivers I am junior to 3,senior to 2,of our stewards. I can say they they are treated like the other drivers,if not worse by mgmt. If anything they make it easier during the course of the day because either by CB,phone,or in person it is easier to stay on top of whats going on in the building,etc. Of course I`m talking feeder,package may have it`s own set of conditions.
grgrcr88, this is why I was able to say that seniority prevailed in our workday as we have our stewards around us all the time to make sure it goes down properly. I can understand why,as a package driver,it might be harder to stay on top of a situation while on route.
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10-31-2009, 05:19 PM
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#24 | | Man of Great Wisdom
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Rep Power: 13650 | Re: Special treatment to shop stewart. Our steward runs an hour and a half or more of bonus each day. He also gave up about 3 grand in supes working grievances so a driver could get his job back. You can be a steward and not be a complete pain in the butt.
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10-31-2009, 05:26 PM
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#25 | | Junior Member
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Rep Power: 0 | Re: Special treatment to shop stewart. Quote:
Originally Posted by over9five In Package, my steward was often sent out with less air. It wasn't special treatment, it was just that he had to represent members in the office every morning so he wouldn't have time to get them all off. | Yes. That's the only thing that I know of for our steward as "special treatment". |
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