Good morning guys. I have a quick question!

[Jones]

Originally Posted by trickpony1

I could be wrong but I don't think the Jews, Catholics and the Church of Christ folks profess:

1) killing the infidels;
2) the use of IEDs;
3) chest packs of explosives for suicide bombers;
4) subjugation of women.

when I was in grade school, possibly before you were born, I remember studying the "Christian Crusades" as I remember back, these "crusades" were in response to aggressive and oppressive actions by the Muslims, so, apparently, this isn't the first time the Muslims have decided to overwhelm, overcome or any other word you want to use.

Either your memory is poor or your teacher was. You might want to go back and read about the crusades again. Bottom line, the reasons were quite a bit more complex (and self serving) than just battling the muslim oppressors in, ya know, their own lands...

Originally Posted by MrFedEx

Very true. My point is that any person should be free to believe whatever they want....even Islam, or Bovineology (good one). You don't see Buddhists, Hindus, or even Muslims doorbelling in neighborhoods trying to convert you to their way of thinking....at least, I have not.

I'm sure that Mohammed, Jesus, and Buddha would all be appalled at how people have twisted their principles and used them for their own power or gain. As screwed-up as the Islamic countries are, I doubt that the Koran or any other Holy book, promote using IED's, using children and the mentally disabled as human bombs etc. Look at all of the violence throughout history committed in the name of God.

I remain open to any religion that can adequately answer my questions and I respect everyone's right to believe whatever they want. Just don't try to convert me or my kids. We don't need anyone doing our thinking for us.

I'm a big fan of The Church of Reality

[pickup]

Originally Posted by trickpony1

I could be wrong but I don't think the Jews, Catholics and the Church of Christ folks profess:

1) killing the infidels;
2) the use of IEDs;
3) chest packs of explosives for suicide bombers;
4) subjugation of women.

when I was in grade school, possibly before you were born, I remember studying the "Christian Crusades" as I remember back, these "crusades" were in response to aggressive and oppressive actions by the Muslims, so, apparently, this isn't the first time the Muslims have decided to overwhelm, overcome or any other word you want to use.

Some would argue that the Jews are parasites, killers of christ and hence killers of god and the religion is by definition inherently racist(although one can join if one wants to ) and yes, there were killing of infidels, Jesus for one and Stephen by Saul(before he became Paul) in the name of the leadership of the Hebrews. Those are just two examples

Catholic Church- may I bring up the Inquisitions where killing of the infidel and heretics happened quite a bit

subjugation of the woman, doesn't Paul in one of his many letters in the Bible state that the woman is subject to the husband and not the other way around

I googled "church of christ" apparently there are a lot of churches that think they are the true churches of christ and the others aren't . So I'll just let that one be

[moreluck]

Stop googling and start Yahooing !!

The churches of Christ
We are undenominational and have no central headquarters or president. The head of the church is none other than Jesus Christ himself (Ephesians 1:22-23).

Each congregation of the churches of Christ is autonomous, and it is the Word of God that unites us into One Faith (Ephesians 4:3-6). We follow the teachings of Jesus Christ and his holy Apostles, and not the teachings of man. We are Christians only!
The churches of Christ are not affiliated in any manner with the denominational church known as "The United Church of Christ".

[pickup]

Originally Posted by moreluck

Stop googling and start Yahooing !!

The churches of Christ
We are undenominational and have no central headquarters or president. The head of the church is none other than Jesus Christ himself (Ephesians 1:22-23).

Each congregation of the churches of Christ is autonomous, and it is the Word of God that unites us into One Faith (Ephesians 4:3-6). We follow the teachings of Jesus Christ and his holy Apostles, and not the teachings of man. We are Christians only!
The churches of Christ are not affiliated in any manner with the denominational church known as "The United Church of Christ".

Very vague most churches make this claim


The head of the church is none other than Jesus Christ himself (Ephesians 1:22-23).

[brownmonster]

Originally Posted by MrFedEx

May Allah bless each and every one of you and may you live in the peace that is Islam. Allah is GREAT!!!

HYPOCRITES 1:23

Thank you, thank you very much.

[Raw]

Originally Posted by brownmonster

Thank you, thank you very much.

Until you change, you will always be known as a bunch of head-choppin'-off, savage monkey-faced sickening worthless turds, wasting space on this planet, and devaluing the quality of life for every human being on the planet.

[Raw]

Originally Posted by Jones

Either your memory is poor or your teacher was. You might want to go back and read about the crusades again. Bottom line, the reasons were quite a bit more complex (and self serving) than just battling the muslim oppressors in, ya know, their own lands...


I'm a big fan of The Church of Reality

Islam was born in the harsh deserts of the Middle East, and its prophet, Mohammed, got angry that Jews wouldn't accept him as the final prophet and thus abandon their own teachings. From there the followers of Islam have proliferated by the slash of the sword, and to this day, they know nothing else but might, intimidation, and bloodshed. The peaceful ones are remote from their cultural and regional origins, but at the very base of this religeon is the order to convert and shed blood towards this accomplishment, whatever the cost. This is the holy imperative. There is no accomodation between civilizaton and the militant Koran. They have no shame at slaying babies or beheading adults, because they make no distinction between the grown infidel and the evil-in-the-making. While this seems the height of cowardice in our own culture, they don't take a share in this mind construct.
I have never supported anything resembling a hate-group ideology, but now find myself sickened by the insistent proof that these people are incorrigible and bloody. There will be no peace, except by the knife, and I do hope that our knife is bigger than theirs.

[Raw]

Originally Posted by MrFedEx

May Allah bless each and every one of you and may you live in the peace that is Islam. Allah is GREAT!!!

HYPOCRITES 1:23

I'm not an expert but heres what I know about islam:

1. 3000+ dead Americans on 9-11-01
2. countless acts of terrorism world wide
3. Most recently, 156 school children killed (over 300 with adults). CHILDREN. What kind of sick bastard kills children? Who cares if they are Russian, They are still CHILDREN.

So yes, I despise islam, and those who practice it. I want to see the plaque wiped off the map and american soil. Am I talking from the christian point of view? No, I'm talking from the point of view of a human being who knows that the gift of human life is the possession of the person it belongs to, not some brainwashed son-of-a-bitch loaded down with c4.

[Raw]

Islam means "Submission" not "Peace" as most uneducated or brainwashed people will try to tell you.
What's the difference? you might ask...
The name 'Islam', or 'Submission' was coined when Mohammed and his band of Bloodthirsty followers
would go to a city and lay seige to it, with the ultimatum "Submit to our religion or die" or, words to that effect...
The ones that submitted were known as "muslims".
The word muslim, muslem, or however you wish to spell it translates as "He who submits".
Those who didn't submit were tortured, killed, raped and mutilated, as well as some other heinus ats.

As you can see, Islam was misguided and violent from the start. What makes people think that they are any different today?
No amout of covering up, and polishing over the truth by modern day muslims can hide this truth.

Here endeth the lesseon.

((If you think I'm lying or you don't belive me, you're probably one of those brainwashed people I was taling about.)) Go get a history book and read about the birth of Islam. And no, the Quoran doesn't count as a history book...

[SKAGITDRIVER]

this is still America land of the free home of the brave say want you want mean what you say

[SKAGITDRIVER]

unless Hoaxter censures your post

[satellitedriver]

[QUOTE=MrFedEx;6311
It's already obvious from the username that they are Christian...why use this forum as a way to preach the gospel?
[/QUOTE]
He did not use this forum to preach.
You are the one that went on a tangent over his user name and preached your beliefs.
Back at you,
Why did you Troll his thread to preach your disbelief?

[satellitedriver]

Originally Posted by MrFedEx

While I certainly acknowledge jesus_saves right to believe whatever he or she does, why insist on exporting it? It's already obvious from the username that they are Christian...why use this forum as a way to preach the gospel?
.

By your logic, you should never post in UPS discussion because your user name is Mr FedEx. You need to preach to your own choir.
Can I get an Amen!!!!

[pickup]

Originally Posted by satellitedriver

By your logic, you should never post in UPS discussion because your user name is Mr FedEx. You need to preach to your own choir.
Can I get an Amen!!!!

AMEN! Brother!

[dilligaf]

Originally Posted by satellitedriver

By your logic, you should never post in UPS discussion because your user name is Mr FedEx. You need to preach to your own choir.
Can I get an Amen!!!!

AMEN!! Brotha................

[trplnkl]

Originally Posted by MrFedEx

Very true. My point is that any person should be free to believe whatever they want....even Islam, or Bovineology (good one). You don't see Buddhists, Hindus, or even Muslims doorbelling in neighborhoods trying to convert you to their way of thinking....at least, I have not.

I'm sure that Mohammed, Jesus, and Buddha would all be appalled at how people have twisted their principles and used them for their own power or gain. As screwed-up as the Islamic countries are, I doubt that the Koran or any other Holy book, promote using IED's, using children and the mentally disabled as human bombs etc. Look at all of the violence throughout history committed in the name of God.

I remain open to any religion that can adequately answer my questions and I respect everyone's right to believe whatever they want. Just don't try to convert me or my kids. We don't need anyone doing our thinking for us.

Who here has tried to convert you?? I didn't see anyone, not even the one who's faith you attacked. You, however, chose to spout your beliefs (that I fully support you right to believe what you want, I support that same right for Jesus_saves.

[MrFedEx]

Originally Posted by satellitedriver

By your logic, you should never post in UPS discussion because your user name is Mr FedEx. You need to preach to your own choir.
Can I get an Amen!!!!

Dear Mr Know It All,

If you had bothered to check, you would have known that the bulk of this thread was transferred over to the "Life After Brown" forum, which is probably appropriate. I'm amazed that you didn't catch this, great omniscient one.

If you'd like to discuss "religion", please feel free to debate me on that thread so I can put you in your place.

Sincerely,

MrFedEx

[MrFedEx]

Originally Posted by satellitedriver

He did not use this forum to preach.
You are the one that went on a tangent over his user name and preached your beliefs.
Back at you,
Why did you Troll his thread to preach your disbelief?

Uncle Martin,

You assume I disbelieve, an error on your part. And anyone who "blesses" you without asking and signs-off with a Biblical verse is "preaching" a belief system. I was called-out already for "hijacking" this thread, so you can do your after the fact piling-on if it gets you off.

Once again, this discussion was moved the very first day it began over to "Life After Brown". By the way "Allah Bless You", and please read your Koran so you can be enlightened.

Allah Saves

EXPLOSIONS 6:33

[hellfire]

Originally Posted by Raw

Islam means "Submission" not "Peace" as most uneducated or brainwashed people will try to tell you.
What's the difference? you might ask...
The name 'Islam', or 'Submission' was coined when Mohammed and his band of Bloodthirsty followers
would go to a city and lay seige to it, with the ultimatum "Submit to our religion or die" or, words to that effect...
The ones that submitted were known as "muslims".
The word muslim, muslem, or however you wish to spell it translates as "He who submits".
Those who didn't submit were tortured, killed, raped and mutilated, as well as some other heinus ats.

As you can see, Islam was misguided and violent from the start. What makes people think that they are any different today?
No amout of covering up, and polishing over the truth by modern day muslims can hide this truth.

Here endeth the lesseon.

((If you think I'm lying or you don't belive me, you're probably one of those brainwashed people I was taling about.)) Go get a history book and read about the birth of Islam. And no, the Quoran doesn't count as a history book...

calm down people !!! why argue whos FAIRY TALE is more important on a ups forum??? if so heres mine

Wikipedia (Links)

Flying_Spaghetti_Monster

[Jones]

Originally Posted by hellfire

calm down people !!! why argue whos FAIRY TALE is more important on a ups forum??? if so heres mine http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster

So you're a pastafarian?

[satellitedriver]

Originally Posted by MrFedEx

Thank you. I'll shut-up now and await the verbal assault by the righteous.

At least you kept one of your promises.

[hdtvtechno]

Enough allready !!!