UPS's dolly manufacturer

[stevetheupsguy]

Originally Posted by Signature Only

www.honeymandhandtrucks.com

You meant http://www.honeymanhandtrucks.com/ right?

[rushfan]

Who manufactures those p.o.s. dollies that aren't made by Silver Eagle? Anytime we get them in our hub, they are the first ones to be placed in outbound sets. The same goes with the s.c. trailers.

[Signature Only]

Yes: http://www.honeymanhandtrucks.com
or e-mail at sales@honeymanhandtrucks.com

[grgrcr88]

www.harpertrucks.com

[NHDRVR]

Originally Posted by upsman68

I am here in Texas and everyone here calls them dollies. It must be a regional thing.
We also have to lock them in our truck or sometimes they seem to disappear.

Yeah, we call them 2-wheelers up here...

[UpstateNYUPSer]

Originally Posted by Signature Only

www.honeymandhandtrucks.com

Originally Posted by stevetheupsguy

You meant http://www.honeymanhandtrucks.com/ right?

Steve, either way is acceptable and will work. You do not have to put the http (hyper text transfer protocol) as part of the URL in the address bar. In fact, you can leave off the www (world wide web) and it will still work.

[stevetheupsguy]

Originally Posted by UpstateNYUPSer

Steve, either way is acceptable and will work. You do not have to put the http (hyper text transfer protocol) as part of the URL in the address bar. In fact, you can leave off the www (world wide web) and it will still work.

I had trouble when I clicked that link, that's why I added the update. Thanks.

[dilligaf]

Originally Posted by stevetheupsguy

I had trouble when I clicked that link, that's why I added the update. Thanks.

Originally Posted by UpstateNYUPSer

Steve, either way is acceptable and will work. You do not have to put the http (hyper text transfer protocol) as part of the URL in the address bar. In fact, you can leave off the www (world wide web) and it will still work.

You probably had trouble with the link becuase of the spelling. There is an extra d in the link.

www.honeymandhandtrucks.com

[cclacy]

Originally Posted by soberups

Article 18, National Master Agreement


Section 14. Package Cars .......A package car will be equipped with a hand cart at the driver�s request.


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They are being "stolen" because the company has made a business decision to refuse to follow the contract language and provide an adequate number of hand carts.

Its not rocket science. If a given facility has x number of package cars then they need x number of handcarts, plus a couple extra as spares, for customer counter, clerks etc.

Like many UPS locations, you probably have some tight-assed finance manager who wont spend a nickel without rubbing it for a month or two, and this finance manager is ignorant of the contract that his company entered into. Educate this man by filing grievances, thereby helping him to develop and maintain a "sense of urgency" towards doing his job...which is to provide you with the tools you need to do yours.

That's a great point. My center manager told me today that they ordered 14 new ones and 2 arrived today. I hope the 2 are just early and not their answer to their request for 14.

[soberups]

Originally Posted by Signature Only

When I went full time 8 years ago there was a shortage of handcarts so I decided to buy my own.

Honeyman Aluminum Products
7715 N.E. 21st Ave
Portland, OR 97211
(508)285-6446

Their handcarts are made to order and they had a large contract with UPS for several years in the late 90's until it was axed due to unit cost. UPS started buying cheaper ones that aren't worth a hoot.

A Honeyman handcart can move 500 lbs easily and will last at least 5 years before requiring service. It can be returned to Honeyman and refurbished for about $100.00
Cost new is $300.00

I have 2 now and the spare is always on loan to another driver.
www.honeymandhandtrucks.com

While I admire your devotion to duty, I question the wisdom of spending $600 of your own hard-earned money for a piece of equipment that the company is contractually obligated to provide for you.

Would you be willing to spend $600 of your own money on fuel, or tires for your package car?

If the company is unwilling to provide a handcart...then file a grievance and work without one until the grievance is heard. If that means carrying 400 packages 1 at a time, then so be it. If that causes you to be over 9.5, then file on that also. If it causes missed stops or other service falures....oh well.

[Dustyroads]

WW Grainger sells some really nice aluminum two wheelers (you call em dollies). They are really better that many of the UPS models, lighter, stronger, better tires.

[stevetheupsguy]

The latest version in our building weighed 67lbs and had the extra wide tongue that didn't support the smaller pkgs. You can tell there was a lot of brainstorming to get those bad boys.

[brownmonster]

Originally Posted by stevetheupsguy

The latest version in our building weighed 67lbs and had the extra wide tongue that didn't support the smaller pkgs. You can tell there was a lot of brainstorming to get those bad boys.

I hate those things. What good is a carry aid that that is harder to move around than what you're trying to carry.

[Dustyroads]

Grainger sells several nice ones that work well for under $200. The ones labeled "modular" are super strong and very light weight to pick up. I notice on their website that they also sell motorized ones for about $3,000. Here's their link,

http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/eca...search&sst=All

[fredly00]

UPS dolly?



I miss the ups dollies cause they had the two metal bars that let you pull it into the truck.
or the handle that worked great as an anchor on the bumper as you filled it
and the short flip out section to carry larger loads...

[edd_tv]

Originally Posted by BROWN430

Our mall route doesnt use a hand cart. There is a a store right by the entrance that we have a flat bed type cart. We store it in there back room and pick it up everyday when we use it. It holds so much more stuff on it.

our mall route has a flatbed 6 wheel cart that we lock to a fence outside with a chain and combo lock. on the other side of the same mall in one of the service hallways we have one that is locked the same way but the con-way guy figured out that if you take the rail that the chain is attached to off of the cart(its the handle on the end and it slides up to be removed easily) he can use it. i caught him with it the last time i ran that route. it was funny how he had gone thru all that trouble to use our cart instead of using his own pallet jack, that would have fitted where he was delivering.

[soberups]

The Honeyman brand aluminum handcarts we have now are the shizzle; I have been beating the crap out of mine for about 7 years now and its still going strong. I load mine up in the back of the pkg car and slide it out off of the back bumper with up to 200 lbs on it. Years ago we had the old green steel ones that we called "iron maidens"...they were heavy and the skids on the back were too short to slide off of bumpers or steps. I probably broke 10 of those POS's before the aluminum ones came out.

[Signature Only]

Originally Posted by soberups

While I admire your devotion to duty, I question the wisdom of spending $600 of your own hard-earned money for a piece of equipment that the company is contractually obligated to provide for you.

Would you be willing to spend $600 of your own money on fuel, or tires for your package car?

If the company is unwilling to provide a handcart...then file a grievance and work without one until the grievance is heard. If that means carrying 400 packages 1 at a time, then so be it. If that causes you to be over 9.5, then file on that also. If it causes missed stops or other service falures....oh well.

Yes that was $600.00 of my hard-earned money for a piece of equipment that UPS was contractually obligated to provide for me.

It was tax deductible. I filed several grievances and the company did provide new handcarts. Those big bulky things that I didn't like. They have a life span of 6 to 12 months and are double the weight of a Honeyman. Since it was my back at stake, I decided to spend my own money and get the best. If I'm going to use a piece of equipment instead of my body for the next 10 to 15 years, why not get something that will provide the highest degree of protection. Or I can use a company provided piece of crap and spend my weekends with a sore back and my working days on disability. It's not a sign of weakness, it's an investment toward a healthy retirement. Your health is everything, without it you have nothing... not even a multi-million dollar disability settlement can change that.

[Signature Only]

And devotion to duty is just a part of it. The main part is saving wear and tear on my body. With the best equipment you can provide the best service with minimum stress on your frame.

[sortaisle]

Originally Posted by stevetheupsguy

Here's a side note about the Handtruck/Dolly debate. How is it that our mall guy feels he has to push 2 of those carts that fold out into wagons? Surely there is some sort of safety issue involved when one person is pushing 2 handcarts loaded to the hilt with pkgs, through an area choked with people. Do all mall people push 2 handcarts simultaneously? Does anyone else have a problem with this? I'd like to hear from Union and MGMT on this one please.

A few of the guys who deliver to Northtown Mall over here in Spokane have flat carts that are left at the mall under lock and key. They have the convertible hand truck as well that turn into flat carts. It's driver preference apparently. Like all things UPS if he hurts himself at all, it's his fault. But I'm sure if they didn't push two carts, they'd be delivering businesses until 7 in the pm.

[stevetheupsguy]

Originally Posted by sortaisle

A few of the guys who deliver to Northtown Mall over here in Spokane have flat carts that are left at the mall under lock and key. They have the convertible hand truck as well that turn into flat carts. It's driver preference apparently. Like all things UPS if he hurts himself at all, it's his fault. But I'm sure if they didn't push two carts, they'd be delivering businesses until 7 in the pm.

Hmmmm, maybe they'd have to put another driver on?

[BLACKBOX]

Originally Posted by Signature Only

A Honeyman handcart can move 500 lbs easily

Hey, Kristie Alley just found a new way to get around!