Are Unload Stands Unsafe? - Page 2 - Brown Cafe

obraindead · 10-09-2008, 09:44 AM

yeah they are safe, watch where you are stepping.

evilleace · 10-09-2008, 09:49 AM

Load stands for me are only useful with over 70's on the top hardly anyone in my center uses them they are a burden and just get in the way as far as being unsafe not so much but they definitely slow down unloading.

sortaisle · 10-09-2008, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by 4th year unloader

Yes they are unsafe i have been working as an unloader for 4 years now and i have only actually found load stands useful a few times mostly they are in the way and if u ask me just putting one in your trailer is unsafe. i once was backing away from a falling wall and triped over backwards and hurt my wrist and back and when im on them i feel unsafe and worry about where i would go if a wall were to fall but i guess thats just a experienced unloaders opinion and not a supervisor who doesn't even remember what its like to unload

You must hustle, cause if that happened over here in WA they would have crapped down our throats for not looking where you step and step where you look.

sx2700 · 10-09-2008, 11:22 AM

Maybe if UPS would stop hiring women and 90lb weaklings to load trailers it wouldn't be an issue. I never had any problem putting heavyweight packages on the top of the load without load stands.

UpstateNYUPSer · 10-09-2008, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by sx2700

Maybe if UPS would stop hiring women and 90lb weaklings to load trailers it wouldn't be an issue. I never had any problem putting heavyweight packages on the top of the load without load stands.

I have personally seen, as have most of us, "women and 90 lb weaklings" run circles around a lot of the guys, including all star high school athletes, so you may want to back off on the generalization.

evilleace · 10-09-2008, 01:15 PM

Also I am not a 90 lb. weakling but I would rather use a load stand to take an over 70 off the top than have it fall on me. You shouldn't even load over 70's on the top last week a 80 lb and 90 lb were both on top of the same wall on fell on a guy and I had to go get them off because he couldn't breathe so just because you can get them up there doesn't mean they are easy to get down.

helenofcalifornia · 10-09-2008, 03:57 PM

I got all excited there for a moment thinking Kenmei was re-surfacing, and then I looked at the date. Too good to be true.

rod · 10-09-2008, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by helenofcalifornia

I got all excited there for a moment thinking Kenmei was re-surfacing, and then I looked at the date. Too good to be true.

We want Kenmei - we want Kenmei - Come on out and play Kenmei - this place has been way to serious and argumentitive lately.

IDoLessWorkThanMost · 10-09-2008, 10:46 PM

Here is my take/advice (after seeing this threads from a hell of a long time ago!)

Unload stands must be INSIDE the trailer, but not necessarily in use.

I have unloaded occasionally over the years. It is important to have a sturdy, reliable loadstand. If you are not given one, walk around the primary and find one. If management questions what you're doing, tell them your load stand is not suitable for work. Then he /she will run around and find one. If they do not (bad mood, disrespectful, unhelpful), and tell you to continue, respectfully tell them that you are going to find a shop steward and someone from saftey and document the fact that you are not given suitable equipment.

From managements point of view, you must have it there so they are covered incase you are injured. They can say the emplolyee had his/her tools for the job, and if you are hurt they provided you the necessary equipment to do the job and the employee knew to utilize it if necessary.

over9five · 10-09-2008, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by rod

....this place has been way to serious and argumentitive lately.

That's the truth!

haydendavid380 · 10-10-2008, 07:22 AM

I'm 5'7" so I use them all the time, and I work in the preload. The only problem I have had with was when half of the stand was on the dock, and half was on the rear bumper of a package car, and the driver pulled away, which caused a fall. But other then that I love 'em!

UPSNewbie · 10-10-2008, 11:28 AM

I'm sort of a jolly green', so I rarely use them, but they are extremely helpful when the package walls are leaning away from you.

oakcreekteamie · 10-10-2008, 11:32 AM

As a loader those pieces of sh** always nail me in the shin...yet they DO come in handy for getting the straps other than that F'em.

Jigawatts · 10-10-2008, 12:33 PM

Just about everything in UPS Land is a contradiction. They tell me to use load stands because they're safer (and so I can stack higher). But where are my three points of contact?

rootbeerman · 10-10-2008, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Jigawatts

Just about everything in UPS Land is a contradiction. They tell me to use load stands because they're safer (and so I can stack higher). But where are my three points of contact?

two feet and a box to cushion your fall

stevetheupsguy · 10-10-2008, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by wornoutupser

I am in the same district as you are.

At least you still dont have to use portable rollers and stands that will not go to the nose of the trailer to unload! They are a PAIN to set up, add rollers to and then take out, not counting the lost time that you have putting packages back on them after they fall off!

You just described the unload in Stuart, Florida.

stevetheupsguy · 10-10-2008, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by tieguy

Videos actually shows them unloading at approximately 1200 pph. Good methods can get you that pace without having to work like a fool.

As another poster said the key to using a load stand is you keep the extendo close. You then slide the package towards the extendo which allows you to unload it with less effort then if you stand on the floor and fully handle each package. The load stand also allows you to work within your power zone which is also less wear and tear on your body. If you don't believe it then take a twenty pound package and hold it out in front of you for a minute with your arms fully extended. then take the package and hold it close to the body within your power zone. You'll find the package kept within your power zone is much easier to hold. The extra work outside of your power zone multiplied by 4000 packages translates into a lot more wear and tear on your body.

Or just really huge arms and shoulders!

stevetheupsguy · 10-10-2008, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by rodneystpete

I WORK IN THE UNLOAD DEPARTMENT PUTTING THE PACKAGES FROM THE TRAILERS ON TO THE BELTS.THEY HAVE UNLOAD STANDS THAT UPS SAYS ''FOR SAFTEY REASONS NEED TO BE IN THE TRAILER TO HELP BREAK DOWN THE WALLS''.THEY WANT YOU TO USE THEM FOR THE PACKAGES ON TOP..ALOT OF THE WALLS ARE UNSTURDY.LATELY THEY HAVE BEEN THREATING TO WRITE ME UP FOR NOT USEING THE UNLOAD STAND ..I FEEL THEY ARE DANGEROUS BECAUSE THERES NOT ALOT OF ROOM IN THE TRAILER WITH THE BELT AND THE UNLOADSTAND, I FEEL IT WILL MAKE ME LOSE MY BALANCE BECAUSE I AM THREE FEET UP IN THE AIR UNLOADING ON AVERAGE 40 POUND PACKAGES.IF THE WALLS WHERE TO FALL .IT WOULD BE HARD FOR ME TO GET OFF THE UNLOAD STAND WITHOUT THE PACKAGES FALLING ON ME..PLEASE LEAVE YOUR OPINION ON THIS TOPIC !!!!!!!!!!!THANKYOU .:confused1

I bet upstate freaked when he saw the size of these letters. Checkout the excessive punctuation.

stevetheupsguy · 10-10-2008, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by sx2700

Maybe if UPS would stop hiring women and 90lb weaklings to load trailers it wouldn't be an issue. I never had any problem putting heavyweight packages on the top of the load without load stands.

Yeah, and what about the blacks, the jews and the gays?

upsgrunt · 10-10-2008, 05:15 PM

Steve,
I like your style, but I hope you don't take a beating for that comment!

Steve

stevetheupsguy · 10-10-2008, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by upsgrunt

Steve,
I like your style, but I hope you don't take a beating for that comment!

Steve

I heard that one on Seinfeld.

Baba gounj · 10-10-2008, 06:44 PM

Darn you youngsters have it easy.
Back when I was loading / unloading feeders we were lucky to have a solid flap to stand on.
Didn't have any of this fancy equipment that you have now.

UpstateNYUPSer · 10-10-2008, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Baba gounj

Darn you youngsters have it easy.
Back when I was loading / unloading feeders we were lucky to have a solid flap to stand on.
Didn't have any of this fancy equipment that you have now.

Let me guess--you also walked 5 miles uphill each way to school every day.

Hoaxster · 10-10-2008, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Baba gounj

Darn you youngsters have it easy.
Back when I was loading / unloading feeders we were lucky to have a solid flap to stand on.
Didn't have any of this fancy equipment that you have now.

Got to call you on that one...I remember using load stands 35 years ago. But I did have to walk to work uphill both ways.

tieguy · 10-10-2008, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by gandydancer

Jeez... Why do you think the operation has to keep ordering new ones, Tie Guy? Do you think they are getting lost? Walking out through the guard gate? No? Maybe you think they are being retired because they become cosmetically imperfect? Try dented, out of square and unstable, ripped and splitting bottoms, anti-slip tape worn off, ... Open your eyes and look at the big yellow things in all the stages of their journey to the garbage compacter. It's not like they're hard to find.

I missed this response before. My question was a question asking about the damage , not a denial that damage occurs.