Does this seem ridiculous to anyone else? - Brown Cafe

EAM_Master · 12-20-2006, 04:13 PM

So today I got a talking to by the driver sup. It appears that I was over allowed by 1.74 hours yesterday. I am full time for the season, and being the low man on the totem pole I get the crap truck to drive. In my case it happened to be a rented box van from Ryder. I was looking at the report from yesterday. I did 209 stops and my planned day was an 8.44. Does that seem a little ridiculous to anyone? Do they really expect anyone to run scratch on a made-up route, in a vehicle that is not at all designed to deliver 200 stop, and in an area that I don't know?

smf0605 · 12-20-2006, 04:27 PM

I'm guessing with that attitude, you will be a part-timer for life.

brown67 · 12-20-2006, 05:58 PM

Yes it's ridiculous. Normal for this time of year. They push new guys, because they know you'll work faster, skip lunch, push it a little more. They might even say if you bring it in faster it will improve your chances of getting hired full time. A full-time driver will just blow them off so they don't bother. Just smile say you'll do better and then go out and run your route the best you can while still being safe.

westsideworma · 12-21-2006, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by smf0605

I'm guessing with that attitude, you will be a part-timer for life.

my that was inspiring...didn't say he didn't want the job, just said his supe was being ridiculous which is nothing new with this company

Keepingthemhonest · 12-21-2006, 02:06 PM

numbers and ups just don't work together very well...

breadbooze · 12-21-2006, 06:05 PM

I've been coming in 2 hours over since the end of thanksgiving

gotta love 6 hour dispatches

toonertoo · 12-21-2006, 08:25 PM

I ran 1.74 over at 2 stops per hr more than I am expected to run, in a truck with all the perks. And yes it was an 8.34 dispatch according to the bible. And I probaly did not take my full lunch or it would have been 2 over. I get talked to daily, and I am doing the best I can, safely. There is much more to peak, trucks are not always loaded stop for stop and you have to sort, run misloads, run pkgs you missed that were buried in the middle, and you just get it done, everyone gets their stuff, and you dont get hurt or have a wreck. And then you have a merry Christmas.
Then you go back after peak and its boring, and there are 5 different splits in your truck and no way to best run it except for area knowledge. And playing concentration trying to remember where the loader put this or that. And you will still get yelled at for doing the best you can. But sometimes they are not doing the best they can, by providing the loader with a chart that you can also look at and get a clue, but that would require them to have knowledge, which some dont, then its all on you. I could go on, but it will never change you just deal with it.
Bottom line is unless you are spending 2 hrs on the golf course or actually sitting for hours on end, you can only do so much. They can go over your records, and see what you were doing and if you get held up, you know why, tell them when they ask. When you get 15 msgs that they want someone to come meet you and you have to type a reply on that stupid board, thats worth 3 minutes per reply. It all adds up. Those 1/100 clicks take their toll after a while too, but you get no credit for it.

EAM_Master · 12-22-2006, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by brown67

Yes it's ridiculous. Normal for this time of year. They push new guys, because they know you'll work faster, skip lunch, push it a little more. They might even say if you bring it in faster it will improve your chances of getting hired full time. A full-time driver will just blow them off so they don't bother. Just smile say you'll do better and then go out and run your route the best you can while still being safe.

That's pretty much what I told them. When the sup was giving me crap, I simply said "I'm doing the best I can. Apparently I'm doing something wrong so can you come ride with me and show me how to do it correctly?" He didn't have an answer to that one.

EAM_Master · 12-22-2006, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by westsideworma

my that was inspiring...didn't say he didn't want the job, just said his supe was being ridiculous which is nothing new with this company

THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!

Griff · 12-22-2006, 07:06 PM

You have a better chance of becoming president than running scratch on a split from a uhaul truck. Running scratch is like running a 3 minute mile in my center, the time studies are totally bogus. The only people who come back at scratch or under are people who sprint from truck to door and back, skip their lunch, never DR correctly, etc. But ya know...as long as you look good on paper!

speeddemon · 12-22-2006, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by smf0605

I'm guessing with that attitude, you will be a part-timer for life.

Your an idiot,.....you know that right?

tieguy · 12-23-2006, 12:30 AM

Many of us old timers were epected to deliver 300 stops out of a wheel barrow. You're lucky they gave you a rental.

over9five · 12-23-2006, 04:22 AM

Ties right! I can remember delivering 300 stops out of a P5 that you couldn't have fit a twinkie in.

Now it seems everyone has a P10 here, anyway.

browniehound · 12-23-2006, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by over9five

Ties right! I can remember delivering 300 stops out of a P5 that you couldn't have fit a twinkie in.

Now it seems everyone has a P10 here, anyway.

Over95, I can't imagine stuffing 300 stops into a 500, without out EDD and being able to get the job done. This peak I was in a p10 with an excellent preloader (1 misload in 2 weeks) and I still had difficulty finding certain packages. I must have wasted at least 30 minutes over the course on the day looking for parcels. And I knew the Package was there because this preloader never misloads so I just kept "digging" until I found it. Had it been another preloader I would have given up after a minute, and would have came back. But at the same time, "back in the day" I guess the packages were smaller for you "old timers" (no pottery barn

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tieguy · 12-23-2006, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by browniehound

Over95, I can't imagine stuffing 300 stops into a 500, without out EDD and being able to get the job done. This peak I was in a p10 with an excellent preloader (1 misload in 2 weeks) and I still had difficulty finding certain packages. I must have wasted at least 30 minutes over the course on the day looking for parcels. And I knew the Package was there because this preloader never misloads so I just kept "digging" until I found it. Had it been another preloader I would have given up after a minute, and would have came back. But at the same time, "back in the day" I guess the packages were smaller for you "old timers" (no pottery barn

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package size goes in cycles. I think the home shopping club days in the late 80's were the best. They were then followed by the exercise equipment craze. Ugh!!

over9five · 12-23-2006, 04:30 PM

Oh my God, ya! One Nordik Trak was bad, but two or three would kill your day!

scratch · 12-23-2006, 04:35 PM

I hated the "Cardio Glides" and the Ab machines as much as the Norditracs.

12-23-2006, 04:52 PM

keep your chin up man

EAM_Master · 12-23-2006, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by over9five

Oh my God, ya! One Nordik Trak was bad, but two or three would kill your day!

OMG.......The Nordic-Track.....

There's a great story about a guy (Who was a little

)from my center and his experience with one!!!......I guess he delivered one to a 3rd floor apartment one day. He brought it into the stairwell, left it at the bottom and ran upstairs to get a signature. The person asked "Aren't you going to carry that up for me?" So he told the customer "I'm sorry, that's as far as I can go with it."

A few days later he got a call tag for it. Apparently it was damaged. He shows up and said "I hate to bother you, but could you help me carry this down the stairs?" In a smart-ass response the guy said "I'm sorry, this is as far as I can go with it....."

When the customer said that this guy lost it. He picked up the Nordic-Track, went out on the balcony and pushed it over the railing! It fell 3 stories and landed behind the package car! He went down, loaded it up and drove away.

fredly00 · 12-23-2006, 09:31 PM

nordic track... at least it comes in one or two boxes at the most...

How about a BowFlex ultimate! 9 boxes of Bliss...

yeldarb · 12-23-2006, 09:40 PM

I delivered a Bowflex in November, and two days later was ssent back to pick it up, because they decided they didnt want it.

12-23-2006, 10:07 PM

Jesus would get called in the office too for running over time allocations.

Its physically impossible to attain scratch using all deliver methods

in our remote center. Im 1.00 to 1.50 over every day and no chit chatting.

Just remember UPS signature is about honesty and integrity!

RockyRogue · 12-23-2006, 10:48 PM

I delivered a SleepNumber Bed the other day. Not so much heavy as it was bulky. Had like 7 boxes of it. When we were finished pulling it outta the package car, there was all kindsa room in the rear.

local804 · 12-24-2006, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by over9five

Ties right! I can remember delivering 300 stops out of a P5 that you couldn't have fit a twinkie in.

Now it seems everyone has a P10 here, anyway.

You must admit though, the packages got a hell of alot bigger since I started working for the company. 45 stops of JC Penneys and sears fit in the 2000 shelf where now we are lucky if we can get 10 in there. Dell, Pottery Barn,Tiger Direct(plasma tv)Bowflex just to name a few are companies who have boxes bigger than coffins that go through our service.The weight limit has doubled and now we have OS3. Just work safe, do your job correctly and the numbers can go up their {edited by moderator}

12-24-2006, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Ibt804

Just work safe, do your job correctly and the numbers can go up their {edited by moderator}

Problem with that attitude is that those numbers ultimately represent your productivity.

If you can’t maintain and exceed that productivity you better sit down and start listing the concessions you’re prepared to make – and better yet you probably ought to start shopping your resume around because I suspect UPS will demand more than you’re willing to give up and eventually they’ll get it.

Bottom line is that you better be concerned about “the numbers” because if they’re not maintained and more they’ll eventually get shoved up *your* @$$

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Seeing as how you have incorporated “804” into your user name I suspect you know a thing or two about that now.