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04-16-2007, 02:38 PM
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#1 | | Senior Member
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Rep Power: 4348 | Tragedy in Virginia What an incredible heartbreak. The shooter kills some folks, leaves, the school isn't locked down, he comes back again and finishes up. Somebody's head will probably roll over this one.
Now who in the world would have dreamed that we'll have to secure all of our higher education institutions, too... A 'monumental' tragedy at Virginia Tech |
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04-16-2007, 03:00 PM
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Rep Power: 10347 | Re: Tragedy in Virginia This is just devastating. My brother lives minutes away from the campus, I’m about 4 hours away. Many of my friends have kids in school there. Many of my coworkers have kids or family there.
I don’t know what else to say.
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04-16-2007, 04:01 PM
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Rep Power: 19722 | Re: Tragedy in Virginia It is so sad, I began watching coverage this am and havent stopped.
But how far does an institution of any type have to go to protect people? Maybe they didnt have the perfect plan in place, but how could anyone....like the amish school shootings. Im sure they never thought or wanted to go to the cost of locking down the school. If he was a student, how would anyone know he would go off? I think some things just cant be avoided.
Sh** like this happens all too much. I dont know the answers and all I can do is keep them in my thoughts and prayers. Im sure once everything is out, it will have affected someone from UPS. Being as how we are such a large employer, especially for college kids. |
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04-16-2007, 06:13 PM
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Rep Power: 18427 | Re: Tragedy in Virginia If only there had been some law abiding, gun carrying students or faculty. The outcome might have been very different.
Carry a gun. Don't leave home without it.
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04-16-2007, 06:31 PM
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Rep Power: 12523 | Re: Tragedy in Virginia Quote:
Originally Posted by over9five If only there had been some law abiding, gun carrying students or faculty. The outcome might have been very different.
Carry a gun. Don't leave home without it. | amen!!!!!!!!!! |
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04-16-2007, 06:32 PM
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Rep Power: 24 | Re: Tragedy in Virginia Yea, two of my friends go to VT. I was tough trying to call them because the lines were jamed. Stupid cell phones. Anyway they are fine. Lots of talk about it at work today. It was kinda funny to hear how everybody would of killed this guy if he did not kill him self. I think some of the people at work should see a doctor. |
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04-16-2007, 06:32 PM
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Rep Power: 4348 | Re: Tragedy in Virginia Quote:
Originally Posted by over9five If only there had been some law abiding, gun carrying students or faculty. The outcome might have been very different.
Carry a gun. Don't leave home without it. | Or at least if someone had tackled him. But I don't know the circumstances. Also wonder about the outcome if the boys in the Amish schoolhouse would had tackled the perpetrator in that case... But they don't believe in violence.
It's beyond comprehension. Columbine happened in our neck of the woods. A UPS guy here, his wife was a teacher at Columbine during all that (she's OK)... And now this.
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04-16-2007, 06:36 PM
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Rep Power: 7355 | Re: Tragedy in Virginia Quote:
Originally Posted by over9five If only there had been some law abiding, gun carrying students or faculty. The outcome might have been very different.
Carry a gun. Don't leave home without it. | Too bad guns aren't aloud on campus. Also too bad that campuses all around the country don't have security. Well, they have campus police but they are about as useless as mall security.
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04-16-2007, 06:39 PM
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#9 | | Browncafe Steward
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Rep Power: 13847 | Re: Tragedy in Virginia No need to second guess now, its happened, now its time for us all to say a prayer for the victims, families and all involved. |
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04-16-2007, 06:54 PM
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Rep Power: 17143 | Re: Tragedy in Virginia Quote:
Originally Posted by over9five If only there had been some law abiding, gun carrying students or faculty. The outcome might have been very different.
Carry a gun. Don't leave home without it. | Or maybe they should ban handguns...oh yea...its
America...the right to bear arms...the only times
that ever happens here(Canada) is from weapons
smuggled up from down there.
They should change that "right" and have a gun
amnesty,and melt them all down to make tanks
for the next war.
...Lets kill the enemy,
not our fellow Americans.
I expect I`ll take some flak on this.
It just seems so preventable,I guess old habits die hard. |
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04-16-2007, 06:57 PM
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Rep Power: 18427 | Re: Tragedy in Virginia YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
Check this out, DS. This young lady gives me hope for our friends up north!
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04-16-2007, 07:21 PM
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Rep Power: 17143 | Re: Tragedy in Virginia nicely made little video,when she`s old enough she can move there and scare off all the rapists.
Enough about ethics,this was a travesty, and someone should
be making a concerted effort to devise a plan that will make sure it wont happen again. |
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04-16-2007, 07:47 PM
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Rep Power: 526 | Re: Tragedy in Virginia I can hear the libs now about the VA Tech shooting - " What did Bush know and when did he know it? " OR " Time to cut & run, bring the students home NOW ! " |
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04-16-2007, 07:51 PM
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#14 | | Browncafe Steward
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Rep Power: 13847 | Re: Tragedy in Virginia Quote:
Originally Posted by Raw I can hear the libs now about the VA Tech shooting - " What did Bush know and when did he know it? " OR " Time to cut & run, bring the students home NOW ! "  | You have to be the biggest ***** ive ever met. Dont you have any f#$ing class at all? 32 people where murdered and another 28 hurt today and you come here being a jag. No respect for others at all. |
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04-16-2007, 07:55 PM
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You have to be the biggest ***** ive ever met. Dont you have any f#$ing class at all? 32 people where murdered and another 28 hurt today and you come here being a jag. No respect for others at all.
| I don`t recall ever meeting you !! |
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04-16-2007, 07:57 PM
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Rep Power: 20675 | Re: Tragedy in Virginia Quote:
Originally Posted by over9five If only there had been some law abiding, gun carrying students or faculty. The outcome might have been very different.
Carry a gun. Don't leave home without it. | Ditto, back at ya.
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04-16-2007, 07:57 PM
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#17 | | Browncafe Steward
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Originally Posted by Raw I don`t recall ever meeting you !! | Than consider yourself a very lucky, miserable s.o.b!!!! |
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04-16-2007, 08:02 PM
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Than consider yourself a very lucky, miserable s.o.b!!!!
| Come to the chatroom!! NOW!! |
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04-16-2007, 08:04 PM
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Rep Power: 20675 | Re: Tragedy in Virginia To top it off, today I learned a 4 year old boy was sexually molested and killed on my route this weekend. *** is this world becoming. At least, the two illegal aliens were caught and are being held on a 12 million dollar bond.
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04-16-2007, 08:46 PM
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Rep Power: 579 | Re: Tragedy in Virginia I imagine I'll take some flak for this but.......
Why can't we put some of the blame for these types of tragadies on:
hollywood
TV
recording industry
internet
video games |
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04-16-2007, 11:41 PM
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Rep Power: 3438 | Re: Tragedy in Virginia Thoughts and prayers to the families. I did my undergrad in a small town. A student was murdered in town a number of years ago and there was still talk about it. This'll be with Virginia Tech for a long time. These folks are all in my prayers this night. -Rocky
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04-17-2007, 07:35 AM
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Rep Power: 766 | Re: Tragedy in Virginia As awful as this tragedy is, hearing the response from the world is equally troubling. The Italian leader called this shooting as American as apple pie. What a calloused s.o.b.! The Iranians are playing it up to the American people as though they have only our interest at heart, while they desperately work on a nucleur bomb to blow us all away, and smuggle bombs into Iraq to kill Americans.
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04-17-2007, 07:44 AM
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Rep Power: 2262 | Re: Tragedy in Virginia Quote:
Originally Posted by sendagain
When people have no fear of God, neither will they hesitate to destroy a man made in his image. | Sendagain, Thank you for a clear & concise statement as to why our world is so screwed up! |
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04-17-2007, 10:25 AM
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Rep Power: 373 | Re: Tragedy in Virginia Quote:
Originally Posted by 25yrvet I imagine I'll take some flak for this but.......
Why can't we put some of the blame for these types of tragadies on:
hollywood
TV
recording industry
internet
video games | thats lame..what is shifting the blame going to do?? not a damn thing to be truthful. If kids are out there being easily influenced by all of the above factors, then we should punish the parents for doing a craptacular job of raising their kids. If you allow your children to be influenced by all of that, then u suck as a parent...Thats the bottom line. Im sick of excuses. I dont know what we could have done to avoid this tragedy but I can say its a little bit more than hollywood thats at fault... |
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04-17-2007, 01:07 PM
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Rep Power: 978 | Re: Tragedy in Virginia The massacre at VT ranks as the worst mass college killing in American history.. But it is not the deadliest rampage at a U.S. school
That terrible distinction belongs to the horror that befell the Bath Consolidated School in Bath Twonship, Mich., nearly 80 years ago.
On May 18, 1927, school baord member Andrew Kehoe wet on a rampage apparently triggered by his anger over a property tax that had been levied to build the school.
Blaming the tax for pushing his farm into forclosure, Koehoe killed his wife and torched his farm buildings. He then turned to the school building, where he had surreptitiously hidden dynamite over several weeks, and detonated the explosives.
When rescuers arrived, Koehoe drove to the school and detonated a firebomb he had with him in his car, killing himself and the school superintendent.
Most of the $# others killed in the bombings were children.
The world hasn't changed much in the last 80 years. There are insane people today as there were then. |
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