How much do feeder drivers make per year?

[raceanoncr]

Originally Posted by over9five

"Took xtra Brown runs..."

What is a Brown run, Race?

When we were on sleeper, on days off, there were xtra feeder runs that came up that no one was available to cover so alot of times I or partner would volunteer to cover those for a day...whatever our DOT hrs would allow.

To me, sleeper is "white" run and feeder is "brown" run. See how clever I am? I may have been born yesterday BUT NOT LAST NIGHT!!!!

[yeldarb]

triples are allowed in different states. They are 28'. It all depends on local laws.

[MR_Vengeance]

Originally Posted by diesel96

What states allow triples ? I know in Fla. it's not allowed,and double long boxes are only allowed on our turnpike systems not our major inter-state hwys .And also what size trailers are used for triples?

oregon, indiana, nevada just to name a few.

[brown67]

Great stuff. My center runs about 60 cars a day and we have 3 feeder drivers plus 1 package feeder driver. One of our feeder drivers just retired and his route is up for bid. The bid comes down at 6am Monday and as of Saturday afternoon I was the one with the most seniority to have bid it. I've talked to the feeder drivers in our building and they all say take the bid. If you can handle night work your body will love you again. I'm 39 and have been driving for 14 years and I'm worried about my body breaking down over the next few years. I've been lucky so for and still have my health, but I don't want to be like most drivers with 20 plus years. Just hanging on with bad knees, backs, shoulders, and feet trying to get to retirement.

[RockyRogue]

Originally Posted by MR_Vengeance

oregon, indiana, nevada just to name a few.

Colorado also allows triples. As this is a mountain state, I'm not sure if there is a limit on how far they can go as triples. I would have a coronary trying to drive a big rig down a mountain in this state!! I was nervous enough in a sedan!

Originally Posted by yeldarb

Triples follow you pretty well, except the last box bounces around on the freeway a little bit. Its the double 45's that are more difficult. If you turn to sharp, your trailers will pinch. LCV pay is about a buck more an hour over package.

These double 45's scare the ***** outta me!!!! I don't even drive the blasted things and I'm still scared to death of 'em! The one time I was driving with a double 45 nearby was a Target distribution load. I let off the gas and gave the guy twice the space I would for a normal 18 wheeler. Cautious? Yes. Excessively? NO! 18 wheelers do strange things, particularly in wind. Feeder drivers know what I'm talking about. -Rocky

[rushfan]

Here if you pull triples, you get $1.00 more per hour. A few cents more per hour when pulling doubles and single. Most of the money is made in winter, when the roads are bad.
Our roads here are so rutted. I was driving one night, and all of the sudden, my tractor began to move side to side. It was the "crack the whip" effect. I let off the fuel, and drove that section of interstate 15 under the speed limit. I'll do so until that section is fixed.

[diesel96]

I'm also curious ,when driving triples do you build the set on a exchange pad off the h'way?Are you allowed to drive off the h'way on public streets?

Can't imagine driving down a mountain during a snowstorm,or hitting a patch of black ice.

I deal with fog,tropical storms,fires,and oh yeah bad drivers(seniors,tourists,moms on cell phones in big SUV's)

[hoser]

Originally Posted by area43

Wow! feeders a 100k. They make just about as much as our pilots. I believe/I know their over paid at a 100k a year. Rocky are you sure about that?

a first officer of a wide body aircraft makes well over $130k a year at the very least. anything less, and they're getting horribly ripped off.

Originally Posted by Air Hub

The UPS Pilots make $500 a week for the first year.

Or to put it another way, if you make more than $12.50 per hour/ 40 hours per week, you are making more than a first year pilot.

But ... they are "living the dream"

what, working 60 hours a month as a F/O is too much?

Originally Posted by diesel96

I'm also curious ,when driving triples do you build the set on a exchange pad off the h'way?Are you allowed to drive off the h'way on public streets?

Can't imagine driving down a mountain during a snowstorm,or hitting a patch of black ice.

I deal with fog,tropical storms,fires,and oh yeah bad drivers(seniors,tourists,moms on cell phones in big SUV's)

Where I am, you can drive anywhere with triples, and they do it in the snow, too (albiet f'n SLOWLY)

[area43]

Originally Posted by area43

Great to hear from a pilot. I remember you were looking for a crash site,lol ( I might have used the wrong pilot lango) a while ago. Is everything a thumbs up. ( : A43(not bingo)

Correction, crash site should be changed to crash pad, lol, my bag. A43(Bingo)

[p-dale parts man]

It takes a long time to get a day run in the georgia district. but, watch out. i think on the next contract the only runs feeder does is center to center and freight will be pulling all the OTR runs since ups is backing away from using rail.

[brown67]

In Colorado you can refuse to drive triples if there is any kind of weather. Rain, wind, snow, ice. Also, you have to wait 6 months after feeder school to to drive triples.

[RockyRogue]

Originally Posted by brown67

In Colorado you can refuse to drive triples if there is any kind of weather. Rain, wind, snow, ice. Also, you have to wait 6 months after feeder school to to drive triples.

The union backs that???? WOW!!! I could see that in New York or a union bastion state but I'm floored it happens here. -Rocky

[xracer]

Here in Upstate NY a feeder driver makes $0.15/hr more than a package car driver and in addition to that you receive an additional $0.35/hr for hauling doubles, triples are not allowed where I am from and the doubles are only double 28's, that gives a feeder driver a pay difference of $0.50/hr over a package car driver. The real difference in pay comes from the extra overtime that you get, a package car driver gets maybe 48 hours on a good week while most feeder drivers are in jeopardy of going into violation on a weekly basis by pushing 60 hours this slight difference in pay scale combined with the additional hours worked means approx another $30k a year for the feeder driver. In our center we have 20 feeder routes and just shy of 30 package car routes. Day routes are possible here in feeders if you are within the top five in seniority of which I happen to be number 4 so if you don't mind the additional hours yes you can be knocking on the door of making a $100,000/year as a feeder driver and with the next raise in Aug clearing that amount. The job is much easier than that of a package car driver but can be excruciatingly boring if you have an over the road route and not a CPU route.

[UPS Lifer]

Originally Posted by Air Hub

The UPS Pilots make $500 a week for the first year.

Or to put it another way, if you make more than $12.50 per hour/ 40 hours per week, you are making more than a first year pilot.

But ... they are "living the dream"

Where in the heck dod you hear that a 1st year pilot made $500 a week! That is the first time I have ever heard a statement like that. The pilots lounge was less than 50 feet away from my office!

The UPS pilots make $150K plus. A Captain will make more than $200K plus, probably closer to $250K!

One of the most prestigious jobs in the industry is being a UPS pilot. They also have the best equipment out there. They deserve it!

[Triples]

I pull triples at an extra .75 cents per hour and work about 55-58 hrs per week. I made 86k last year and was home every night/day. I have
a night run right now, and like it. No bosses around and no one to answer to. It is great. I am a FNG to this site so hello everyone. Hope to make around 90 this year with dollar raise next month. GL!!!

[UPS.driver]

Originally Posted by brown67

Great stuff. My center runs about 60 cars a day and we have 3 feeder drivers plus 1 package feeder driver. One of our feeder drivers just retired and his route is up for bid. The bid comes down at 6am Monday and as of Saturday afternoon I was the one with the most seniority to have bid it. I've talked to the feeder drivers in our building and they all say take the bid. If you can handle night work your body will love you again. I'm 39 and have been driving for 14 years and I'm worried about my body breaking down over the next few years. I've been lucky so for and still have my health, but I don't want to be like most drivers with 20 plus years. Just hanging on with bad knees, backs, shoulders, and feet trying to get to retirement.

Go for it!!! And good luck. (BTW, this is my 1st post....from Metro Philly District)

[Air Hub]

Originally Posted by UPS Lifer

Where in the heck dod you hear that a 1st year pilot made $500 a week! That is the first time I have ever heard a statement like that. The pilots lounge was less than 50 feet away from my office!

The UPS pilots make $150K plus. A Captain will make more than $200K plus, probably closer to $250K!

One of the most prestigious jobs in the industry is being a UPS pilot. They also have the best equipment out there. They deserve it!

http://www.airlinepilotcentral.com/a...cargo/ups.html

OK... you are correct. Starting pay has gone up... it is currently more then $500 a week...it is $618.75 a week for the first year. Or $32,175 per year.
It does jump up a lot after the first year... like $100,000 per year for the second year.
A 10 year Captain will make over $200,000. Max Captain pay is $217,728 per year. But you don't get hired as a Captain, you have to work your way up the ranks, it takes 7-10 years to make Captain.

[browniehound]

What if I'm terrified to drive a truck this large? Are there any feeder guys out there that were terrified at driving a truck this large? And can this be overcome?

I'll admit it, when it comes to driving, I'm a wus. When its snowing, my knuckles are white and eyes are bug-eyed in a package car. Can someone like this even think about feeders?

I just don't feel safe in a package car and it worries me more than it should. I think feeder trucks are much more safer than a 1982 p1000.

So I guess I wouldn't be as nervous in a feeder as a P-car simply because they are built with the latest safety features.

So my question is: are there any feeder drivers out there that were once nervous driving a piece of crap p-car, but are in feeders now and much more comfortable?

Thanks in advance!

[RockyRogue]

Originally Posted by browniehound

What if I'm terrified to drive a truck this large? Are there any feeder guys out there that were terrified at driving a truck this large? And can this be overcome?

I'll admit it, when it comes to driving, I'm a wus. When its snowing, my knuckles are white and eyes are bug-eyed in a package car. Can someone like this even think about feeders?

I just don't feel safe in a package car and it worries me more than it should. I think feeder trucks are much more safer than a 1982 p1000.

So I guess I wouldn't be as nervous in a feeder as a P-car simply because they are built with the latest safety features.

So my question is: are there any feeder drivers out there that were once nervous driving a piece of crap p-car, but are in feeders now and much more comfortable?

Thanks in advance!

This question has come up before I think, Brownie. I just forget where. Sorry. However, UPS will train you on driving feeders. Before long, you feel like you're behind the wheel of a sedan. Backing would scare the ***** outta me though! I say go for it, man. Be patient with yourself and the equipment and you'll do fine. -Rocky

[covemaster]

If your worried driving a p1000 pkge car in snow, the feedr does handle a lot different, you on the h/way wich is plowed and sanded much better than a resy street. You keep a steady pressure on the fuel keep those tires rollling increase the following distance and lay off the brakes.We all had to learn and get through it .Just remember saftey first,your the captain and it;s your ship GO SLOW< also if you go to the feeder school ,the own you for a two year commitment. For the 9 or 10 bad nights a year it beats the hell out of humping bundles in your 40;s & 50;s GOOD LUCK DRIVAH!!!

[tieguy]

Originally Posted by Air Hub

http://www.airlinepilotcentral.com/a...cargo/ups.html

OK... you are correct. Starting pay has gone up... it is currently more then $500 a week...it is $618.75 a week for the first year. Or $32,175 per year.
It does jump up a lot after the first year... like $100,000 per year for the second year.
A 10 year Captain will make over $200,000. Max Captain pay is $217,728 per year. But you don't get hired as a Captain, you have to work your way up the ranks, it takes 7-10 years to make Captain.

Sounds like a great compensation plan. How many hours do you guys work in a month to make that kind of money? I've heard its as little as 30 to 40?

[705red]

Originally Posted by Air Hub

http://www.airlinepilotcentral.com/a...cargo/ups.html

OK... you are correct. Starting pay has gone up... it is currently more then $500 a week...it is $618.75 a week for the first year. Or $32,175 per year.
It does jump up a lot after the first year... like $100,000 per year for the second year.
A 10 year Captain will make over $200,000. Max Captain pay is $217,728 per year. But you don't get hired as a Captain, you have to work your way up the ranks, it takes 7-10 years to make Captain.

Lets see the average upser starts out ptime at $8.50 an hour, 5 or so years to go fulltime time, 2 and half to top out, so we spend about 7.5 years to average $60,000 plus a year. I got screwed somewhere in life! Should have been a pilot, if im correct i think they fly about 50 hours a month!

[UPS Lifer]

While we are on the subject of our airline.... How about those UPSCO mechanics! They do not get the credit they deserve. Without those folks our planes would all be grounded; then where would we be???

[raceanoncr]

Originally Posted by UPS Lifer

While we are on the subject of our airline.... How about those UPSCO mechanics! They do not get the credit they deserve. Without those folks our planes would all be grounded; then where would we be???

Still flying as usual. Talked to mechs in Louky. Most are pretty p***ed off cuz they're basically tire-thumpers and windshield washers.

They said most heavy work goes to China...overhauls, etc. Company refuses to train em on important work, and they WANT to do it.

Can we say OUTSOURCING?

[Stuck_on_preload]

Is that a long Journey you're on Vengeance?