Overnight/UPS Freight Salaries?

[BottomFeeder]

Teddy wrote: If UPS and UPS Freight are the same company.....

They are NOT the same company at this time.

[rumblestrips]

Originally Posted by stormchaser148

I work for ups freight and do also have friends that work for ups. The difference in pay has to do with the difference in the job. We as upgf have a lower scale because are income ratio to theres in trailer revenue is 100% difference. Also, there is the matter of union and non-union. There non-union part of ups doesn't make much on there docks as sorters. Also, factor in that are side is lazy, can't service the customers, and couldn't dispatch out of centrol correctly on a good day. If ups management would just get off there butts and start firing managers and teach us the about rules and standards. We may actually see our wallets getting fatter. Just tell them to put a leash on there managers in regards to the way they treat you!

Why not organize and get your piece of the pie?? As per the other posts, 90-100k is the norm here for ups truck drivers. Where there is brown, there is green.

[Teddy Bear]

I am associated with a city driver that works 10, 12 and 13 plus hour days. If he got OT after 8 I could retire now and start a home business to take us through our golden years. The way it stands I continue to work.

[thigh19]

Anyone seen any details on what is being offered by the Indy contract. Are they going to offer the contract nation wide? That's the only way I can see a UPS Freight contract working. I've been with Overnite/UPS Freight since 1990 and am pretty comfortable with the way thing are(Pretty much). I average 75-90k a year, I have a 401k that matches .50 on the dollar up to 7 percent, my Overnite pension is close to a teamster pension, I get 4 weeks paid vacation, 9 paid holidays, medical, dental, eyecare at afordable rates. I'd like to know how and if the teamsters will really benifit me. I've heard rumors, but that is all.

[RGAman]

Ok, will you guys at least get one thing straight? The name of the company that UPS bought was not OVERNIGHT, but OVERNITE TRANSPORTATION!

Originally Posted by 1blood

How can i be hired as a UPS freight driver? What's involve with the training and what kind of starting pay i can expect?

WWW.UPSFREIGHT.COM/Jobs

[kenneth e. winston]

do any one what the the sleeper teams pay going to be???????????

[Skye]

18.01 is the starting salary in UPGF

[Skye]

18.01 to start and every 6 months you get a .25 rise for the next 3 yrs. Plus COLA at the beginning of each yr. But no union.


Overtime starts after 42 hours.

[sppollock]

Originally Posted by Skye

18.01 to start and every 6 months you get a .25 rise for the next 3 yrs. Plus COLA at the beginning of each yr. But no union.


Overtime starts after 42 hours.

Does that say .25 raise every six monthes, we are getting .51 every six monthes, and the cola raise, and the last raise is 1.03. I didnt think that the pay was that different around the country. Yes, we start at 18.01 as well.

Because of the state I work in, overtime after 40.

[RockyRogue]

Originally Posted by sppollock

Because of the state I work in, overtime after 40.

Unless he's overseas, UPSF is breaking the law. Its over 40 hours for overtime as far as I know everywhere in the U.S. I believe that's a federal labor law. -Rocky

[govols019]

And you would be wrong.

[RockyRogue]

Originally Posted by govols019

And you would be wrong.

Hey, never said I was perfect OR don't make mistakes. What I posted is based on my recollection of posters in employer breakrooms. Geeeez!!! -Rocky

[govols019]

I don't even remember typing that.


Anyway, certain employees are exempt from overtime laws.

[Teddy Bear]

If memory serves...and it probably doesn't, but I am sure someone will correct me where I am wrong....one of our past Presidents....was it Jimmy Carter? was responsible for the overtime glitch (for lack of a better word). When my husband started with OVERNITE it was OT after 45 or 46...it is now OT after 42 I believe and in 2008 will either be after 40 or 41. These are WORKING hours. Paid vacation and holidays do not count. One again I will say that if he got paid OT after 8 our income would increase by leaps and bounds. Not because he is one of those that wants 48 to 50 hours a week but because thats what his city route entails. He works 9 to 13 hours every day. And weeks like this one with two days off - he will more than likely work 13 hours all 3 days.

Also if you remember the cost of living raise last year was eaten up by increased medical insurance. We did not see 1 cent of last years raise.

With the increased fuel cost (which truckers know raises the cost of EVERYTHING else) our pay is buying less and less. Food costs more, clothing...it has all gone up except the pay...

No one has said much about the Indy contract. Just wondering how that is working out for them.

[pontiac467]

i think it was a law passed a long time ago that if a truck is involved in interstate commerce you dont have to get paid overtime. So if you drive on the interstate or are with a company that hauls goods on the interstate the employer doesnt have to pay overtime.

[local804]

Originally Posted by DorkHead

UPS feeder drivers make about $27.60 per hour not counting contract supplements. Our feeder drivers work 57 to 59 hours a week. Yearly, its about $90,000.00 to $100,000.00 a year.

For someone who works 60 hours a week (which is max by law,dot) They better make 90k.
They dont make much more an hour than package so it really isnt out of reach for someone who has no social life. I am happy with 3-5 hours a week overtime and we be damn to work 20.

[GuitarManHD28]

UPS Freight local drivers currently make $21.50 hr and road drivers make 54.338 cents a mile. We expect to hear what raise will will get this next week for the following year, but with Indy now under contract we have no ideal what management will put on the table for us. It might be card signing time in a week or so LOL

Originally Posted by GuitarManHD28

UPS Freight local drivers currently make $21.50 hr and road drivers make 54.338 cents a mile. We expect to hear what raise will will get this next week for the following year, but with Indy now under contract we have no ideal what management will put on the table for us. It might be card signing time in a week or so LOL

No info on raise as of yet. Get cards ready.

[nitecrawler]

I am in a driver position with UPSFreight for some time now and formerly I didn't support the union.Last week UPS finally struck a cord with me by giving us a .75 cent raise for the first half of '08 and a .75 cent for the 2nd half.This is less than half than they gave the Indianapolis Union terminal in their contract.
It began when they took the Savings account away.I stood and did nothing.then they took the pension and sorted it in with other Non-Union UPS people. And I stood silent. Then the 401k matching went to stock not much of a real deal there.They are raising the medical and Dental costs per family.I am wondering what other creative way they will come up with to get more of my paycheck in their shareholders pockets.The bean counters are attacking the employee benefits and wages package for UPSFreight.
If they want a Union company wide they are going in the right direction.Keep going in our pockets and UPS Freight will be Union before long.
A Card signing push starts Terminal wide in January so I will be pushing for the Union. If you are smart you will jump on board or risk taking it on the chin and being part of the companys eventual plan to charge you to work there.

Sign a Card and send a message that we are not going to take more cuts while UPS has great revenues
nitecrawler

[kenneth e. winston]

I been wondering the same thing?????? I would like to know what the sleeper teams for ups? I drive a sleeper truck so?????? what pay diff.??????????

[nitecrawler]

Here is kind of how the math goes.what is it now that Indy got something like 0.0163 in Jan 1, 08 and the rest of us drivers get 0.0075 for the first 6 months and 0.0075 July 1, 08.
Say you base the Salary on 120,000 miles per driver a year not including Holiday pay vacation pay etc...
OK (half the year is based on 60, 000 miles) union makes an increase of $978 over 6 months and non- Union makes $450 increase a $528 dollar difference.
In the 2nd six months there is a 3/4 cent increase and I'm not certian if there is an increase of the union side however.Lets say even if there is'nt
still a difference in the second half of 08 would be $78 do the math and...
Theres $606 in lost wages alone in the first year.So each driver pays $606 Annually to be Non-Union.Must be Non-Union dues I guess???
You can add in the annual cost of Medical and Dental that is sure to rise in the next 5 years and throw that money out as well.Indy got a 5 year freeze.I just wonder if management would like to see their wages and benefits package take a dive and have to take it on the chin.
Management is trying to say that this is a good thing for the drivers and are trying to sell it to us.Do they think we were born on a bananna boat?
And yeah the gainsharing is another way of saying yep its gonna be the same money we allways gave you but if your in the top %20 percent profit wise and if your terminal is perfect you can achieve 5 bucks more than we used to give you but were going to hold on to the money till the end of the first quarter so we can make interest on it before we give it to yo.And if your terminal isn't in the top %20 percent then better luck next year and you will take a cut.
This is creative theft of wages and benefits.Each week they sit at there desks trying to come up with new ways to get money out of your pocket.

Originally Posted by nitecrawler

Here is kind of how the math goes.what is it now that Indy got something like 0.0163 in Jan 1, 08 and the rest of us drivers get 0.0075 for the first 6 months and 0.0075 July 1, 08.
Say you base the Salary on 120,000 miles per driver a year not including Holiday pay vacation pay etc...
OK (half the year is based on 60, 000 miles) union makes an increase of $978 over 6 months and non- Union makes $450 increase a $528 dollar difference.
In the 2nd six months there is a 3/4 cent increase and I'm not certian if there is an increase of the union side however.Lets say even if there is'nt
still a difference in the second half of 08 would be $78 do the math and...
Theres $606 in lost wages alone in the first year.So each driver pays $606 Annually to be Non-Union.Must be Non-Union dues I guess???
You can add in the annual cost of Medical and Dental that is sure to rise in the next 5 years and throw that money out as well.Indy got a 5 year freeze.I just wonder if management would like to see their wages and benefits package take a dive and have to take it on the chin.
Management is trying to say that this is a good thing for the drivers and are trying to sell it to us.Do they think we were born on a bananna boat?
And yeah the gainsharing is another way of saying yep its gonna be the same money we allways gave you but if your in the top %20 percent profit wise and if your terminal is perfect you can achieve 5 bucks more than we used to give you but were going to hold on to the money till the end of the first quarter so we can make interest on it before we give it to yo.And if your terminal isn't in the top %20 percent then better luck next year and you will take a cut.
This is creative theft of wages and benefits.Each week they sit at there desks trying to come up with new ways to get money out of your pocket.

I hear you. Been there a long time and it seems the double talk is making a comeback. This is supposed to benifit me in the long term? That is what they are trying to sell. RIGHT! Half a raise for half a year is better than a whole raise? OK!!!!!!!! For dock and PU&D it comes out to an average of .45 for the whole year 2008, but we actually lose .15 of that on giving up an extra hour (41) (if they are still dropping overtime after 41, they havn't offically said yet) then the extra money aon time and a half.How is that BETTER?My raise is $12.00 for the 1st half of 2008 then $24.00 for the second half. I am losing $104.00 of base (40hr) pay from last years .50 raise,plus the increase in medical. Yes i can see how this benifits me. Oh well, like some people at are teminal say well it is better than nothing and they didn't have to do anything. True, but you would think they would want to be the leader in pay ,bennies,.etc .etc like the perception of UPS in the general public. Also tlaked to a package driver and he said that this is the first year that they are splitting their pay increases under thier new contract.








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[bobs barricade tester]

Originally Posted by Skye

18.01 to start and every 6 months you get a .25 rise for the next 3 yrs. Plus COLA at the beginning of each yr. But no union.


Overtime starts after 42 hours.

This varies 18.01 is the most a driver can be paid at starting.

at my terminal every driver is started as a dock/cdl and paid 10.50/hr once they are assigned a route then they get full pay.

It is whatever you negoitiate at the time of hiring of the last 3 people hired 2 started out at 10.50 the third was offered 10.50 said no thanks and walked out but was later offered the full pay but still started on the dock.

[BigEmpty53]

If you wear a brown shirt you get more money.
If you wear gray shirt you get less money.

Simple.