Big Changes Ahead in TSG - Brown Cafe

NotSoBrown · 11-19-2008, 05:03 AM

Rumors are starting to flow again. Has anyone heard of any cutbacks come January?

peacock71 · 11-19-2008, 11:47 AM

Rumors

1. A piece of unverified information of uncertain origin usually spread by word of mouth.
2. Unverified information received from another; hearsay. ~
3. A spark chipped off a piece of BS meant to start a fire.
4. Bait to unwitting fish.
5. A waste of time.

IN your case, be careful what you wish for, for you will surely get it.

Go UPS!
P71

H_E_Pennypacker · 11-20-2008, 10:26 AM

If there are cut-backs in January; it won't just be TSG...

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"You shouldn't have to push 6 for cantonese"

nosupport4u · 12-08-2008, 07:50 PM

Big Changes Ahead in TSG

Don't we hear this just about every year?

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If there are cut-backs in January; it won't just be TSG...

I can agree with this after seeing some the changes that have taken place and more still to come....

Familyguy · 12-12-2008, 05:46 AM

Here is the deal... It is very obvious that this time January will be different. UPS is always, and I mean always looking for ways to save money. If that means reducing staff to increase both efficiency and cut expenditures on payroll and healthcare then we must deduct from that TTG, IT or whatever you call it is a prime target...

simcoe919a · 01-09-2009, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by H_E_Pennypacker

If there are cut-backs in January; it won't just be TSG...
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"You shouldn't have to push 6 for cantonese"

I am part of a district consolidation; I have no idea what is going on with my job. Now I am hearing that UPS is going to offer partners demotions. If they have a job available. This sucks.

Deeohem · 01-12-2009, 06:19 PM

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I am part of a district consolidation; I have no idea what is going on with my job. Now I am hearing that UPS is going to offer partners demotions. If they have a job available. This sucks.

Yeah, but that's not because your district is getting consolidated. It's because your manager is going to be forced to make the 2009 cost plan equal to or LESS than 2008 actual cost. Even if the June raise is zero, there's still going to have to be cost cutting

ImpactedTSG · 01-14-2009, 12:11 PM

Every January I call some of my old UPS Tech buddies and see who still has a job. Looks like this year could be more interesting than most.

simcoe919a · 01-15-2009, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ImpactedTSG

Every January I call some of my old UPS Tech buddies and see who still has a job. Looks like this year could be more interesting than most.

That all you got?

ImpactedTSG · 01-15-2009, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by simcoe919a

That all you got?

What do you mean is that all I got?

simcoe919a · 01-15-2009, 06:40 PM

You spoke to a couple of your old UPS Tech Buddies who lead you to believe that this year “could be more interesting than most” What were their thoughts?

celtics 2009 · 01-19-2009, 03:12 PM

this happened again today on district conf call very general discription of layoffs did not state any numbers of how many effected this is a joke get out while you still can the writing is on the wall pmt is a joke and so is j bevis and jack

Dfigtree · 01-19-2009, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by celtics 2009

this happened again today on district conf call very general discription of layoffs did not state any numbers of how many effected this is a joke get out while you still can the writing is on the wall pmt is a joke and so is j bevis and jack

Keep tellin' ya. UPS should never have gone public.

What do you think the equation is?

Layoff X full-of-hot-air senior managers to save Y hardworking ISers

Maybe 10 for 1. Fire one Mr. Putz and save the jobs of 10 hardworking ISers
(and productivity/job satisfaction would go way up)

eXpendableTSG · 01-19-2009, 04:41 PM

Yep. I guess that we will find out more tomorrow. I'll tell you one thing... if I ever see J Bevis walking down the street, I would kick him straight in the nuts. Come to think of it, he would just shield his nuts with the sack of nuts he holds from his management team. They do nothing to show corporate what fools they are for believing in J Bevis and his magical reports.

Hoaxster · 01-19-2009, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by celtics 2009

this happened again today on district conf call very general discription of layoffs did not state any numbers of how many effected this is a joke get out while you still can the writing is on the wall pmt is a joke and so is j bevis and jack

always liked ee cummings the way he did not capitalize use punctuation or conjunctions

Buffalo Bill's defunct who used to ride a watersmooth-silver stallion and break onetwothreefourfive pigeonsjustlikethat Jesus he was a handsome man and what i want to know is how do you like your blueeyed boy Mister Death

peacock71 · 01-19-2009, 05:32 PM

I always try to read his work with fustian literalism. The startling pedantry forces once to veritable ooze transcendentalism.

Go UPS!
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peacock71 · 01-19-2009, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Dfigtree

Keep tellin' ya. UPS should never have gone public.

What do you think the equation is?

Layoff X full-of-hot-air senior managers to save Y hardworking ISers

Maybe 10 for 1. Fire one Mr. Putz and save the jobs of 10 hardworking ISers
(and productivity/job satisfaction would go way up)

Hey there Defigger......its over 9 years since UPS went public, if there ever was to be some kind of LBO to take it private again, now owuld be the time. I sure don't want that. It would just allow whats left of the dead wood to put their heads back in the sandpit.

Go UPS!
(Publicly competitive since 1999)
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simcoe919a · 01-19-2009, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by peacock71

I always try to read his work with fustian literalism. The startling pedantry forces once to veritable ooze transcendentalism.

Go UPS!
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Nice.

Everyone: Read it one more time.

eXpendableTSG · 01-19-2009, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by simcoe919a

Nice.

Everyone: Read it one more time.

It's funny, but to be honest, I did need to look up a couple of those words.

Hoaxster · 01-19-2009, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by peacock71

I always try to read his work with fustian literalism. The startling pedantry forces once to veritable ooze transcendentalism.

Go UPS!
P71

That is The Irony of ee cummings that he does not use big words in a pompous way he is but a hawker at circus sideshow.

simcoe919a · 01-19-2009, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by eXpendableTSG

It's funny, but to be honest, I did need to look up a couple of those words.

Do you have any other info about cuts in your district?

eXpendableTSG · 01-19-2009, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by simcoe919a

Nice.

Everyone: Read it one more time.

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Originally Posted by simcoe919a

Do you have any other info about cuts in your district?

Nope. The meeting is tomorrow morning. I should have some info by then. I can't even say for certain that there will be layoffs. All I know is the last time we had a meeting were every TSG person in the district needed to be on the conference call at the same time, they dissolved a region help desk and cut back TSG staff by 20%.

10thLetter · 01-19-2009, 08:17 PM

Please join us tomorrow as we speak about "Real Change". J.

ImpactedTSG · 01-20-2009, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by eXpendableTSG

Yep. I guess that we will find out more tomorrow. I'll tell you one thing... if I ever see J Bevis walking down the street, I would kick him straight in the nuts. Come to think of it, he would just shield his nuts with the sack of nuts he holds from his management team. They do nothing to show corporate what fools they are for believing in J Bevis and his magical reports.

Sorry to hear this is still going on three years after the big announcement when I got downsized. UPS is very similar to Liberalism. If you do something and it doesn't work, then you just haven't been able to do enough of it. Obviously the cut backs didn't help the last time so keep cutting and cutting. The writing has been on the wall for years. Anyone that stuck around should not be surprised that this is happening again.

pretzel_man · 01-20-2009, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by eXpendableTSG

Yep. I guess that we will find out more tomorrow. I'll tell you one thing... if I ever see J Bevis walking down the street, I would kick him straight in the nuts. Come to think of it, he would just shield his nuts with the sack of nuts he holds from his management team. They do nothing to show corporate what fools they are for believing in J Bevis and his magical reports.

The man had the guts to analyze TSG costs throughout UPS. He asked why some regions and districts spent significantly more money per PC than other without measurable improvement in reliability, etc.

He used that information to reduce TSG cost significantly. Many have warned as you have that the world would come crashing down.

System reliability is no poorer. Deployments still happen. Things are still working. Where is the catastrophe?

Yes, its a little harder to get TSG help for unplanned work. That's a small problem cmpared to the savings generated.

P-Man