IT Layoffs - Page 13 - Brown Cafe

Sleeve_meet_Heart · 08-29-2009, 10:21 PM

As having net+/a+/mcse and worked in IT, having been subsequently laid off from a reasonably good job with a large corporation in 2001, I hope anyone affected finds shelter before the storm hits if it has not already. If it has, all the best to you!

20% less than market? Brutal.

TechGrrl · 08-30-2009, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ISFriendly

maybe if you worked harder and didn't try to snoop around you might still be working

Think you were aiming this at someone else...I've been retired for two years, thank you.

Thanks for playing, management troll.

upsiser828 · 09-02-2009, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by upser001

My group in Paramus NJ is having a meeting this coming week to talk about the Global Development project. Rumor has it that this is also an opportunity for any concern employee to ask questions about the recent layoffs. I doubt anyone will ask any question on this subject since everyone is nervous about what is happening. There is rumor that there is plan to outsource the entire IT group if Global Development shows promise. I hope this rumor is not true.

For years IBM has wanted to come in and manage the UPS Data Center. They've said "so UPS can concentrate on their core business". I can see IBM taking over Telecom and the data center operations and Accenture taking over application development and software. This would be managed by a small group of UPSers. If this fails, UPS could hire people at lower salaries and less benefits...win-win (kidding). It's a sign of the times. Our Gov't is a big club and so are corporate big wigs. In the end it will be them and the rest of us. Maybe Global Development should have been American Development.

optimistic pessimist · 09-06-2009, 06:07 PM

Hi Folks,

Just to let you know they were doing layoffs from the TSG group in the East Bay District (Oakland California) back in 2005 as I was part of that group. They also did another round of layoffs in 2006. I eventually left on my own as I got fed up with management.

Steve

IT Layoffs
days after the apr 2009 earnings report, the wheels were set in motion to lay off UPS IT workers in the near future in order to go more lean and mean and save money. if you just write code and/or are not a "star" and you work in UPS IT, your days may be numbered. update your resumes folks, it's going down. the brutal economy will be brutal to UPS IT, it will NOT be spared....... and don't look for a formal announcement; like lot's of companies, UPS is keeping layoffs quiet to remain in the best light for Wall Street.

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Originally Posted by Hoaxster

Several are a couple of questionable postulates in your post ... but keeping your skill set up to date and your resume updated are prudent measures.

if you just write code and /or are not a "star" and you work in UPS IT, your days may be numbered.
I guess it depends on where you are and which systems you work on. UPS may not be hiring people but they have been very few actual layoffs and none that I can see at least for another year. We have so many contractors working here now, we could reduce the workforce by 20% before actually laying off a UPS IT employee.

UPS is keeping layoffs quiet to remain in the best light for Wall Street.
This is the exact opposite of what companies do ... they announce layoffs but in many cases, only partially, execute the announced number of layoffs.

AirTechSpec · 09-06-2009, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by upsiser828

...Accenture taking over application development and software...

I was interested to see a recent comment from one of our projects that their "knowledge transfer" to Accenture had been put on hold after two Accenture employees quit.

So it goes when you depend on others to do your work for you.

upswp · 09-06-2009, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by TechGrrl

Think you were aiming this at someone else...I've been retired for two years, thank you.

Thanks for playing, management troll.

Hmmm, does that make you a cheese head too?

Hoaxster · 09-06-2009, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by optimistic pessimist

Hi Folks,

Just to let you know they were doing layoffs from the TSG group in the East Bay District (Oakland California) back in 2005 as I was part of that group. They also did another round of layoffs in 2006. I eventually left on my own as I got fed up with management.

Steve

My bad ... I keep forgetting TSG is considered part of IS.
When is think of IS, I think of RR/DD = 20/29.
Hoke

TechGrrl · 09-06-2009, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by upswp

Hmmm, does that make you a cheese head too?

The correct term is "cheddarhead", thank you!

gimmeabreak · 09-06-2009, 08:41 PM

TSG is I.E., not I.S.

Hoaxster · 09-06-2009, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by gimmeabreak

TSG is I.E., not I.S.

Yes, but Corporate TSG is in IS so it confuses people at times.

Seasoned UPSer · 09-07-2009, 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by zzeee

There were no PIP, no HR involved, nor was I told about LE
I was told:
"My position is impacted by reduction of force in connection with the 2009 Global Development initiative...
The involuntary terminations related to the Global Development initiative will commence in or about August 2009 and are expected to continue through December 2009, and may continue through the first six months of 2010...
termination and retention decisions turned on one or a combination of the following factors: length of service, employee performance, skills and experience, and the staffing needs of the portfolio"

As for me,
next week I have a meeting with Washington DC team of lawyers. We will see.

If you don't mind the question, what would be your purpose for meeting with lawyers? I only ask because it does not sound like you were wrongfully terminated? I have read many posts here and I understand why people are upset about losing their jobs, but I have yet to read where UPS is breaking any laws.

I also wish you and everyone else the best of luck with finding employment in the future. I will be praying for you all.

UPSernomore · 09-08-2009, 07:09 PM

Look at the age of all the employees affected. Let me know what the team of lawyers in DC tell you. I'd be interested in any class action suit myself.

NeverSayNever · 09-11-2009, 02:58 PM

Age was not a factor in alot of cases. I don't think you will be able to roll that dice.

Hoaxster · 09-11-2009, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by NeverSayNever

Age was not a factor in alot of cases.

So, what you are saying is that age was a factor in some of the cases?

peacock71 · 09-11-2009, 03:31 PM

Age was a factor in my leaving.

Go UPS!
P71

upsiser828 · 09-12-2009, 04:23 AM

UPS has said that as part of the "Seperation Allowance Plan", apporpriately named SAP, involuntary terminations would start in Shared Services on or about August 2009. Has this started? What if this fails?