UPS info for UPSers - Do we get to grow beards in new contract?

10-02-2007, 06:16 PM

On the lighter side of contract talks, I'll ask the ever present question, "when do we get to grow some beards around here?" Do we have some language in this new contract about facial hair. Seriously people, its 2007 not 1937, I don't think a customer is going to get scared if the ups guy has a goatee or even a beard. I'm not asking for a ZZ TOP kinda beard either just something well maintained on my face other than a mustache. Give me some feedback on this please!

moreluck · 10-02-2007, 06:36 PM

I picture a big old beard with frozen snot in it in the sub-zero areas at Wintertime.

on beards !!

brownmonster · 10-02-2007, 06:40 PM

That snot covered beard keeps us warm up here in the northwoods during winter. I would like to see a goatee being OK. I do agree I look rather menacing with one. BM

scratch · 10-02-2007, 06:40 PM

No beards. Neither Jimmy or Mike have them.

gray squirrel · 10-03-2007, 02:33 AM

I agree. I have been with UPS for 17 years, and have never been permitted to have facial hair, with the exception of a mustache. My old center manager used to ride me about it being too long. It seems our grooming standards are way out of date. Facial hair isn't a big deal, so why can't we have it?? I may do like some of the bald guys, and grow my mustache long, and do a comb over!!

mrbubble · 10-03-2007, 03:01 AM

I'm a carwasher and we can have facial hair, maybe you should be a carwasher?

retired2000 · 10-03-2007, 03:33 AM

if you want long hair and facial hair go inside and work nights.

Captain America · 10-03-2007, 03:55 AM

They want that clean cut Roman, 1950s white men are the only people, diversity is bad, look. If this ever changes I will probably be so old that I would be in a nursing home.

brownmonster · 10-03-2007, 04:15 AM

The grubby looking fools at DHL seem to be getting plenty of business

ja4079 · 10-03-2007, 05:16 AM

I sure hope they never allow beards!

govols019 · 10-03-2007, 06:53 AM

Why? I look damn good with a beard.

wkmac · 10-03-2007, 07:16 AM

I had to laugh when I saw this thread title because at the same time Smiling Bob and the penial enlargement commercial was on TV. The thought of someone posting the following then came to mind.

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I wonder if the new contract will provide penial enlargement surgery? Until they get this in the contract I will vote no!

Folks, it's just a matter of time before we see this!

BTW: I'm just looking forward to the day when I retire that I don't have to cut my hair anymore. Ah, my return to chest length hair I've not seen since the 70's. To bad this time it'll be gray but at least I still have it all!

FromBluetoBrown · 10-03-2007, 02:56 PM

Not to brag but I dont need the enlargement surgery.........

Lobofan5 · 10-03-2007, 10:05 PM

There is a section in the new contract.

Women drivers can have all the facial hair they want.

Hang on men, your turn can't be that far behind!!

10-04-2007, 08:59 AM

I can't find anything in the contract that says anything about facial hair.

Are you sure it's there? Where is it? What section and article?

raceanoncr · 10-05-2007, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Lobofan5

Women drivers can have all the facial hair they want.

Wish you wouldn't have brought that up. Started flashbacks from one of old girlfriends.

Griff · 10-05-2007, 03:48 PM

It's a company policy. I don't think the Teamsters could change it even with a strike threat. It's not worth it anyways, its part of the reason why you are paid decently. I'd like to sport 5 o'clock shadow or a goatee, but I'm not willing to take a paycut and go to NoobEx.

dillweed · 10-06-2007, 04:48 AM

Super funny thread between smiling bob and the women with facial hair!

Maybe I'm old fashioned but feel the clean-shaven look adds credibility to our drivers. Customers can see exactly what each driver looks like, no hiding behind whiskers. And you guys/gals are so good looking! Honestly, I'd hate to see the beards allowed.

HEFFERNAN · 10-06-2007, 05:00 AM

LOBOFAN GOT ME WONDERING ?

I wonder if there has been any women drivers who have been sent home because they looked unshaven.
That would take a lot of gall for a supervisor.

But then again, Ive delivered to many "women" who could grow a better beard than myself

Big Babooba · 10-06-2007, 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by HEFFERNAN

LOBOFAN GOT ME WONDERING ?

I wonder if there has been any women drivers who have been sent home because they looked unshaven.
That would take a lot of gall for a supervisor.

But then again, Ive delivered to many "women" who could grow a better beard than myself

I've delivered to a few bearded ladies. One I knew from high school when she was a he! He changed his name to Sue Jean. It took me a few seconds to realize who it was. It was very hard for me to keep a straight face whenever I delivered that stop.

diesel96 · 10-06-2007, 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by wkmac

I had to laugh when I saw this thread title because at the same time Smiling Bob and the penial enlargement commercial was on TV. The thought of someone posting the following then came to mind.

Folks, it's just a matter of time before we see this!

BTW: I'm just looking forward to the day when I retire that I don't have to cut my hair anymore. Ah, my return to chest length hair I've not seen since the 70's. To bad this time it'll be gray but at least I still have it all!

I'm all for goatee's, but I guess that makes us EVIL looking:confused1
Wkmac, Had a four hour WOODY the other day that smiling Bob would have been proud of (as well as my girlfriend)(I know, TMI). But the AD says to call the Doc after experiencing that...We ended up calling Chinese take out and having a smoke. Speaking of the 70's ..Grateful Dead now playing on Siruius 32. Makes me wanna wear tie dye t-shirts as undershirts for work.

02-17-2008, 07:08 PM

No reason we should not be allowed in IS to wear beards. I had an orange haired girl with a nose ring in my orientation meetings. I had to shave my beard of 20 years to work here. All my customers are online or in China. I give 100% everyday. I don't think a beard would cause any trouble. UPS advertises whiteboard commercials with a guy who's hair you could braid. But we can't have a beard?

Tony31yrs · 02-18-2008, 07:55 AM

I had to shave my face for 27 yrs on the road and I hated it. The day I retired was the day I stopped shaving(except for my neck and facial cheeks). I still don't wear it much longer than an inch. I never understood why you couldn't wear a short beard. If they can tell you how long to wear your hair, they could tell you how long the beard could be. Customers were always surprised when I told them that I couldn't wear one. Mailmen can wear them as well.
When I first started in 1975, we couldn't even wear them inside. We came back from strike and some of the fulltimers inside had them. Management told me they don't want beards, can ask you to shave, but if you don't they can't do anything about it. I was the first part timer in our building to grow one. They asked, I told them I'd think about it and others grew theirs too. It was funny because they didn't care how long out hair was or how we dressed, but they were concerned about beards.

doctor brown 688 · 02-19-2008, 05:58 AM

Funny thread,LMAO at frombluetobrown. I don't think a well groomed beard would hurt anything,but then again what do I know. I just wish the company had the same 1940's moral standards to go along with the appearance standards.