Part-Time Medical Coverage

[iamoverit2]

".... effective January 1, 2008 health and welfare coverage for
all part-time employees on the payroll at that time and those hired thereafter will be provided pursuant to the terms of an

Employer sponsored nationwide health care plan, namely, the UPS
National Health Plan for Part-Time Employees. (A copy of the Summary Plan Description will be privided.)

Features of the plan will include a prescription card."

Is anybody want to see The Plan Description BEFORE we vote for it?

[#1angelfan]

Originally Posted by iamoverit2

".... effective January 1, 2008 health and welfare coverage for

all part-time employees on the payroll at that time and those hired thereafter will be provided pursuant to the terms of an

Employer sponsored nationwide health care plan, namely, the UPS
National Health Plan for Part-Time Employees. (A copy of the Summary Plan Description will be privided.)

Features of the plan will include a prescription card."

Is anybody want to see The Plan Description BEFORE we vote for it?

i would like to see it , but i think it is kind of late.

[Mystakilla]

Yeah they rushed this whole thing and by doing that, something just isnt right, that ought to throw up a flag for EVERYONE!

[#1angelfan]

can anyone explain this? i am going to call my local and try to get them to explain this.

[JustPartTime]

Originally Posted by iamoverit2

".... effective January 1, 2008 health and welfare coverage for

all part-time employees on the payroll at that time and those hired thereafter will be provided pursuant to the terms of an

Employer sponsored nationwide health care plan, namely, the UPS
National Health Plan for Part-Time Employees. (A copy of the Summary Plan Description will be privided.)

Features of the plan will include a prescription card."

Is anybody want to see The Plan Description BEFORE we vote for it?

Yeah, I'd like to know. Include that in with all my other questions. Like the retirement changing to 25 years AND age 55 instead of 25 and out any age.....$200 a month for insurance......

This contract is not looking so good to me.

[gandydancer]

You didn't mention the part about superseding any provisions that part time benefits be the equal of full-time benefits. So, the only guarantee of benefits (other than the existance of a prescription card) is the fiduciary responsibility of the company to spend the H&W capitation contributed on behalf of each part time employee responsibly? Where is that amount specified in the contract and how does it compare with the number(s) in the last contract?

[browned out]

Very scary language indeed. Does the prescription card come with a $10 co pay? Someone needs to contact the NLRB, Hard Copy or lawyer

This deception or lack of information is unacceptable.

people around here all havent even got the ballots. I just found out from our shop stewart that the union is screwing the part timers----on the teamster mailer the health plan looked almost identical to what we already have ---what is left out and hidden somewhere is that all part timers will have to pay $1000 deductible for EACH person on their plan in network and out of network is 3000 pp per year. is that legal if people arent all getting their ballots and we have to get the vote in by the 9th?? and how come nobody is being told about the deductable ...i vote HELL NO!!!

[browned out]

Maybe therels a $1000 dollar deductable per family member no vision no dental in addition to a co pay on prescription card.

THIS NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED

[#1angelfan]

i talked to my local, and he said our insurance will not change one bit. it does say that in our supplement. it might be different for everybody though. you might want to read your supplement or call your local guys. hopefully they will tell you the truth.

[Damok]

We also got some PT specific stuff in the snail mail here about this... didn't see anything that got worse. Angel is right though, check your supplemental.

The info i received in the mail compared "in-network" benefits with "out-of-network" benefits.

How do I know if I'm in or out of network?

[Damok]

It's not you that's in or out of network it's the Doctor or specialist or whatever that is or isn't. Get your hands on a list of those - I think it comes in a booklet. I actually have to get a new one myself.

Anyone know if this is done through HR or not?

[westsideworma]

Originally Posted by Damok

We also got some PT specific stuff in the snail mail here about this... didn't see anything that got worse. Angel is right though, check your supplemental.

Who does it list as a provider (healthcare)? this interests me. I know it doesn't affect our local (least thats what they told our hourlies). We currently get Blue Cross or Harvard Pilgrim I believe (may have been fallon) for the union and Aetna, Cigna and Blue Cross for management in our area.

I am curious about this as well as my employees have heard little to nothing about this when I mentioned it.

[#1angelfan]

Originally Posted by Damok

It's not you that's in or out of network it's the Doctor or specialist or whatever that is or isn't. Get your hands on a list of those - I think it comes in a booklet. I actually have to get a new one myself.

Anyone know if this is done through HR or not?

damok, you need to call whoever you covered by, i have blue cross, blue shield, so i call them if i need a new book, or they can also give you names over the phone.

[TheVoice]

Originally Posted by Pleasantvile NJ

people around here all havent even got the ballots. I just found out from our shop stewart that the union is screwing the part timers----on the teamster mailer the health plan looked almost identical to what we already have ---what is left out and hidden somewhere is that all part timers will have to pay $1000 deductible for EACH person on their plan in network and out of network is 3000 pp per year. is that legal if people arent all getting their ballots and we have to get the vote in by the 9th?? and how come nobody is being told about the deductable ...i vote HELL NO!!!

In all fairness brother, I am also voting No, and have been concerned about this issue straight out the gate, but I wanted to correct you on the date thing, the votes have to be in by the 16th at 10 am eastern time, the 9th deadline is for requesting a new ballot if you didn’t receive the first one…either way you look at it, not enough time, a snow-job big time.

The Voice

[Cezanne]

I just hope that I do not have to say "I told you so" for the next five years if this contract passes. Really is anybody listening out there, let alone doing any research about the loopholes present with this new pension lanuage and health and welfare lanuage.

[Braveheart]

Originally Posted by JustPartTime

Yeah, I'd like to know. Include that in with all my other questions. Like the retirement changing to 25 years AND age 55 instead of 25 and out any age.....$200 a month for insurance......

This contract is not looking so good to me.

I think the part timers are getting the shaft!

12 Month wait for benefits

18 Month wait for your spouse and kids to get benefits

Starting wage still stuck in stone age at $8.50

Starting pay rate for Air Drivers still FROZEN IN STONE AGE

Air progression pay rates still frozen with NO WAGE IMPROVEMENTS

ZERO NEW 22.3 FULL TIME JOBS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

TCD must get Unattainable 200 reports for promotion to full time

ZERO improvements to stop seniority and harassment violations

Company gets to pass over TCD's and use golf cart helpers at Peak instead

NO catch up raises!

Split raises at 20 hours and .35 cents is only a $7 a week raise WOW

Only full time drivers can get on 9.5 list!!!!!Let the abuse begin!!!!!!!

Still no sick days for 3 years!!!!!

No paid holidays for your 1st year!!!Can you feel the love??????

3 and 1/2 gone if you bust it out and go home early

Why would any part timer vote yes??????????????????

Vote no and tell all the part timers to vote no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Damok]

Originally Posted by #1angelfan

damok, you need to call whoever you covered by, i have blue cross, blue shield, so i call them if i need a new book, or they can also give you names over the phone.

Gotcha, thanks much

[ogrelord]

there going to do away with the 3.5 hours? please tell me this is a bad joke.

[tieguy]

Originally Posted by ogrelord

there going to do away with the 3.5 hours? please tell me this is a bad joke.

Bravehearts misinformation campaign. the 3.5 gurantee is still in. However if you don't want to hang around for the full 3.5 hours you can choose to leave early and get paid actual hours worked.

He tries to make it sound much more ominous then it really is. You'll see a lot of this during this time as company haters try to make everything sound worse then it really is.

[tieguy]

Originally Posted by Braveheart

I think the part timers are getting the shaft!


Starting wage still stuck in stone age at $8.50

New 90 progression that bumps up the starting wage if they stick around 90 days.


ZERO NEW 22.3 FULL TIME JOBS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

However the company agrees to create 20,000 new f/t jobs during the life of the contract.


ZERO improvements to stop seniority and harassment violations

Actually quite a few improvements in the contract offer.


NO catch up raises!

90 day progression is a catch up raise.

Split raises at 20 hours and .35 cents is only a $7 a week raise WOW

Only full time drivers can get on 9.5 list!!!!!Let the abuse begin!!!!!!!

how do you figure? You can opt out of the 9.5 protection you don't have to opt in?

Still no sick days for 3 years!!!!!

Our folks who are part time now have not lost a thing. More misinformation

No paid holidays for your 1st year!!!Can you feel the love??????

Our folks who are part time now have not lost a thing.

3 and 1/2 gone if you bust it out and go home early

No loss of the 3.5 guarantee.


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