Teamster leader awarded labor leader of the year

[bobups3]

If Steve is so great why do we have fixed union steward elections in palatine feeder and why is it that company senority is only used for picking vacations, but is not considersd for overtime. Have been a teamster and a upser for 28 years and I feel very frustrated with the way things are being done right now. When volume is down and everyone is trying to get overtime how is it right that someone with half the fulltime years is getting 55 to 60 a week and I haven't broke 41 in 4 months?

[705red]

Originally Posted by bobups3

If Steve is so great why do we have fixed union steward elections in palatine feeder and why is it that company senority is only used for picking vacations, but is not considersd for overtime. Have been a teamster and a upser for 28 years and I feel very frustrated with the way things are being done right now. When volume is down and everyone is trying to get overtime how is it right that someone with half the fulltime years is getting 55 to 60 a week and I haven't broke 41 in 4 months?

Would you care to elaborate on fixed steward elections? And remember before you run off at the mouth, please know what you are talking about! I am out of palatine and have helped out with steward elections and they are not fixed! That's why we still have some dead beats stewards in the building!

1st of all please see a financial advisor, so you can afford to start living within your means. People are laid off and split shifting 4 and 4 to make due and here we have a guy that is still getting his straight 8 crying.

You should have started your own thread instead of pissing on this one! How come you didn't run for steward? You can print up signs about your two stewards complaining but you didn't have enough stones to run? WHY?

Pick up your contract and read the contract and you will see the answers you are looking for. If you see something you don't like, bring up a new proposal at the next contract proposal meeting. That is if you decide to attend!

[hondo]

Originally Posted by bobups3

If Steve is so great why do we have fixed union steward elections in palatine feeder and why is it that company senority is only used for picking vacations, but is not considersd for overtime. Have been a teamster and a upser for 28 years and I feel very frustrated with the way things are being done right now. When volume is down and everyone is trying to get overtime how is it right that someone with half the fulltime years is getting 55 to 60 a week and I haven't broke 41 in 4 months?

Your company seniority is also protecting you from layoff-please see Art. 44.4 (pg 151). Look around, haven't you noticed your brothers & sisters with more classification (feeder) seniority, but less company seniority, forced to bump into:

1. other barns in the Tri-District
2. Package
3. 22.3 combo
4. split shifting inside

[tieguy]

Originally Posted by bobups3

If Steve is so great why do we have fixed union steward elections in palatine feeder and why is it that company senority is only used for picking vacations, but is not considersd for overtime. Have been a teamster and a upser for 28 years and I feel very frustrated with the way things are being done right now. When volume is down and everyone is trying to get overtime how is it right that someone with half the fulltime years is getting 55 to 60 a week and I haven't broke 41 in 4 months?

Uh- oh red. Looks like you missed this guy when you decided to speak for all teamsters. maybe you should attend a few less awards ceremonies and talk to the people in your own barn?

J/K

[BigUnionGuy]

[QUOTE=705red;557976]Upsers are sick of taking it in the rear end.

All you have to do Red, is look at the numbers...

You must have one of those cushy office jobs for Hoffa.

I do...??? Let me know when that happens!

Well pal your ride is almost over!

What ride is that ??


-Bug-

[BigUnionGuy]

"I am out of palatine and have helped out with steward elections"


Red,

My bad.... I assumed you were a steward, or at least a full-time employee. Not that there is anything wrong, with being part-time.

-Bug-

[Solidarity413]

The last two posters have done nothing but attack red. Strange. But don't worry tie was just kidding

[705red]

Originally Posted by tieguy

Uh- oh red. Looks like you missed this guy when you decided to speak for all teamsters. maybe you should attend a few less awards ceremonies and talk to the people in your own barn?

J/K

Tie, the palatine feeder group has a real bad reputation. Everyone in the area calls it the palace. That's because alot of them cut there own side deals and only worry about themselves. Don't believe me? Just ask anyone from the Chicago area.

And it sucks because we have alot of very good drivers that are labeled this because of a few.

[705red]

[quote=BigUnionGuy;558874]

Originally Posted by 705red

Upsers are sick of taking it in the rear end.

All you have to do Red, is look at the numbers...

You must have one of those cushy office jobs for Hoffa.

I do...??? Let me know when that happens!

Well pal your ride is almost over!

What ride is that ??


-Bug-

Originally Posted by BigUnionGuy

"I am out of palatine and have helped out with steward elections"


Red,

My bad.... I assumed you were a steward, or at least a full-time employee. Not that there is anything wrong, with being part-time.

-Bug-

ANT i am a steward and a full time package car driver with 15 years with UPS. Now you know about me, what industry are you in?

Please beg Jimmy to run in the next election! Rumor has it we will retire before we can show him the curb! Say it ain't so!

[tieguy]

Originally Posted by 705red

Tie, the palatine feeder group has a real bad reputation. Everyone in the area calls it the palace. That's because alot of them cut there own side deals and only worry about themselves. Don't believe me? Just ask anyone from the Chicago area.

And it sucks because we have alot of very good drivers that are labeled this because of a few.

thats not always a bad thing Red. You clearly get a lot of enjoyment out of the labor game and butting heads with management. Some people enjoy going to work and having a good working relationship with those they work with including management.

[705red]

Originally Posted by tieguy

thats not always a bad thing Red. You clearly get a lot of enjoyment out of the labor game and butting heads with management. Some people enjoy going to work and having a good working relationship with those they work with including management.

I only get enjoyment out of righting a wrong. The whole labor game is a JOKE! Threatening peoples jobs, harassment, stealing money out of their pockets, that's your management game. Someone need to stand up for those that cant! Why not me?

I don't know many that have a good working relationship anymore. Busting routes, sending people home working those of us 11 and 12 hours a day that do work.

Crap even managers cannot make decisions anymore.

[tieguy]

Originally Posted by 705red

I only get enjoyment out of righting a wrong. The whole labor game is a JOKE! Threatening peoples jobs, harassment, stealing money out of their pockets, that's your management game. Someone need to stand up for those that cant! Why not me?

I don't know many that have a good working relationship anymore. Busting routes, sending people home working those of us 11 and 12 hours a day that do work.

Crap even managers cannot make decisions anymore.

I don't know brudder I see a lot of enjoyment on your part causing heartache and mayhem.

There are many teamsters who come to work and need none or very little support from the union.

Many of the teamsters will ask for your support when they need it.

But many that you do not speak for just want to come to work, do the job and go home without all the extra grief at work.


You're definitely not one of those and I'm not sure you relate to or represent them?

[bobups3]

Your company seniority is also protecting you from layoff-please see Art. 44.4 (pg 151). Look around, haven't you noticed your brothers & sisters with more classification (feeder) seniority, but less company seniority, forced to bump into:

1. other barns in the Tri-District
2. Package
3. 22.3 combo
4. split shifting inside

Have any feeder drivers been layed off at cache and have any that have been layed off been allowed to bump into cache?

[bobups3]

So 705red isn't it Steve's job to make sure that the guys he drove with in palatine are not allowed to make side deals, or becuase he drove with some of those guys does steve just overlook it. and didn't Palatine feeder have that rep when Steve was there as a feeder driver?

[705red]

Originally Posted by bobups3

So 705red isn't it Steve's job to make sure that the guys he drove with in palatine are not allowed to make side deals, or becuase he drove with some of those guys does steve just overlook it. and didn't Palatine feeder have that rep when Steve was there as a feeder driver?

Steve didn't drive feeder out of palatine. He was out of addison. Care to put your foot in your mouth some more?

[705red]

Originally Posted by bobups3

Your company seniority is also protecting you from layoff-please see Art. 44.4 (pg 151). Look around, haven't you noticed your brothers & sisters with more classification (feeder) seniority, but less company seniority, forced to bump into:

1. other barns in the Tri-District
2. Package
3. 22.3 combo
4. split shifting inside

Have any feeder drivers been layed off at cache and have any that have been layed off been allowed to bump into cache?

Yes! And Yes!

[BigUnionGuy]

Originally Posted by 705red

i am a steward and a full time package car driver with 15 years with UPS. Now you know about me, what industry are you in?

Congratulations on being a Union Steward Red....

Its a thankless job.... and only gets worse as you move up....

Trust me on this one.



But, to answer your question, I'll put it in perspective....

If you have been there 15 yrs.... Then I was driving for Brown when you were probably in grade school.


-Bug-

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[705red]

[QUOTE=BigUnionGuy;564693]Congratulations on being a Union Steward Red....

Its a thankless job.... and only gets worse as you move up....

Trust me on this one.

Your absolutely right. It can be a thankless job, some say you didn't do enough and sometimes you just have to tell someone that what they think is a grievance is not.

But that's why only good steward do it day in and out. You have stewards that are in the companies pocket and you have to cover their areas to.

But i wouldn't stop being a steward because of this, because every now and then when you get someone that was wrongfully terminated back to work, that itself is reward enough.

But, to answer your question, I'll put it in perspective....

If you have been there 15 yrs.... Then I was driving for Brown when you were probably in grade school.


-Bug-
I will give you respect for being a UPS driver over 20 years ago! It was not an easy job back then and I will thank you for being a Teamster UPS driver during it.

However being a driver today is alot harder then back when I was in grade school. The stops per day are alot higher, we now deliver over 70lbs and up to 150lbs. The workdays are longer and the management people you had back then were old school and knew how to treat people, not anymore.


But we will have to agree to disagree on Hoffa. When management boasts about Hoffa and slams TDU, what does that tell you?

Hoffa has negotiated two contracts for UPS, both sub par agreements. He allowed the merger of Yellow, Roadway, Holland and Penn to combine the largest union trucking companies in to one company. Now YRC is on the verge of going under and taking 10s of thousands of Teamsters with it.

Hoffa has failed in very aspect and will go down as the WORST Teamster leader of all time!

Hoffa's legacy is he unionized OVERNITE, if he would not have blown the strike years back, maybe UPSers would not have had to make concessions in their contracts to have UPS hand Freight over willingly!

I only hope that he decides to run again so he can actually see how disappointed we are with him!
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[1989]

He allowed the merger of Yellow, Roadway, Holland and Penn to combine the largest union trucking companies in to one company.

Please forgive my ignorance red, but why would Hoffa have any authority to stop a merger of any company? Isn't that only between the company boards, shareholders, and anti-trust regulators?