I was Framed By UPS And Was Fired At The State Level Hearing!

[ups1990]

Originally Posted by rocket man

WHAT is bonus? we have over time! I hope all your bonus time was worth IT? KISSING up look at the good job i did.wow dont worry about the the guy at the end of the belts whos p700 is empty and he loading because you ran like adog . now your in dog house . Thats a great bonus program. SOME HOW I HOPE YOU GET BACK IN THEN BE SMART. MANAGMENT ARE NOT YOUR FRIENDS.

3,2,1 blast off! Rocket man is really out of this world.

[BigUnionGuy]

Originally Posted by Firedbrowndriver

The progressive discipline was over a 7 month period where they built a case against me. They brought me to the state panel twice in 2 months.

So in other words, they gave you multiple chances to fix your problems....

Yet, you kept making mistakes over and over....

Despite counseling by your Union Steward and Business Agent....

And a previous trip to the State panel....????

I am assuming there had to be verbal warnings, written warnings, suspension periods, prior to you going to a State Panel.... twice....


Come on.... You were set-up and now want to sue...???


If I had a nickel for every time I heard that one.


-Bug-

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"Stupid people should be encouraged to say stupid things.... That way, we always know who the stupid people are."

[Firedbrowndriver]

The union told me that if they did not correct your paycheck by next week then file a grievance. The bones was so easy to get on certain routes though. I am a young guy in pretty good shape that liked to get paid and go home early. I know I was used and there is nothing I can do about it. I figured that if I ran bonus my manager would leave me alone for a while and I would have not gotten fired. He fu**** wirh me not matter what. I coud not win. When I started UPS, I thought that you could not be fired unless you were dishonest. I was wrong. If UPS wants you they will get you. They will set you up for and bring you to the panel until the panel says "claimaint of the union denied" When the panel sees you a few times you are done. UPS can take you to the panel as many times as they want. The more times they take you there whether its your fault or not it makes you look bad.

[Firedbrowndriver]

"Bigunionguy" I corrected all of the problems that UPS said that I have done prior to the second panel hearing. I was still fired. The union had a good case explaining this. The union and I think that the panel is fixed.

[klein]

Today, was a new posting about someone with a DWI that he got this weekend.

It;s nasty.
I thought to myself, what is actually worse. Losing your job or losing your drivers licence ?

I would pick losing job (since I live alone, have no way of transportation, no family here, etc).
I would be screwed without one.
Besides, with a drivers licence, a lot easier to get another job.

But, besides all that. Take the loss, like I did. Try to find a new job. Maybe one, you'll even like more.
Your young. Lots of options.
Does your unemployment pay you for secondary schooling ?
If so, get into something you really like (computers, or whatever).

Won't blame you for holding a grouch aginst UPS.
It happens. Who knows, you may become the head shipper and receiver somewhere.......?

I actually had that happening to me once on my route, : Delivered to this business. She said what the hell are you doing here (my first time there).
Said UPS, package for you.
She said, I don't want UPS , it should have been delivered via Fedex !
And she went on giving me crap..
I opoligized, and even told her she can refuse if if she wants. But she took it. But for some odd reason , she held a big thing against UPS.

[Firedbrowndriver]

I have a bachelors degee in business and I know that I will not make as much as I did at UPS. I will probably buy an existing business somewhere.

[klein]

Originally Posted by Firedbrowndriver

I have a bachelors degee in business and I know that I will not make as much as I did at UPS. I will probably buy an existing business somewhere.

Drive a sewer and water truck, they start at $30 hr. Easy work. Full automatic trucks. You stick in the hose, and sit in your truck for a half hr.

Or transit bus operator.
Let people in and out of the bus. They pay more. (train you for free , licence costs and all).
No lifting !

Gravel truck, also pays more (women do it these days). Easy too.

Soo many jobs out there. Even limo service is an option.
Pays less, but the tips are as high as your daily pay at UPS.

Tons out there, get creative, and look !

[Hoaxster]

Originally Posted by klein

Drive a sewer and water truck, they start at $30 hr. Easy work. Full automatic trucks. You stick in the hose, and sit in your truck for a half hr.

Or transit bus operator.
Let people in and out of the bus. They pay more. (train you for free , licence costs and all).
No lifting !

Gravel truck, also pays more (women do it these days). Easy too.

Soo many jobs out there. Even limo service is an option.
Pays less, but the tips are as high as your daily pay at UPS.

Tons out there, get creative, and look !

Maybe even an Ice Road Trucker!

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[UpstateNYUPSer]

[QUOTE=Hoaxster;575694]Maybe even an Ice Road Trucker! [quote]

Isn't that seasonal work?

[Sleeve_meet_Heart]

[quote=UpstateNYUPSer;575801][QUOTE=Hoaxster;575694]Maybe even an Ice Road Trucker!

Isn't that seasonal work?

You are thinking the greatest catch, or whatever.

I am not 100% sure but I believe that the truckers truck no matter if the roads are icy and dangerous or not.

[klein]

[quote=UpstateNYUPSer;575801][QUOTE=Hoaxster;575694]Maybe even an Ice Road Trucker!

Isn't that seasonal work?

I think Hoaxster had enough of him, wants to send him to Alaska, or the northpole ! LOL

[Mike23]

[quote=klein;576034][quote=UpstateNYUPSer;575801]

Originally Posted by Hoaxster

Maybe even an Ice Road Trucker!

I think Hoaxster had enough of him, wants to send him to Alaska, or the northpole ! LOL

Or Edmonton...that's close enough.

[The Other Side]

Originally Posted by Firedbrowndriver

I am getting unemployment but they are trying to fight it. That's all I need is to pay back that money.

If the company is fighting the unemployment, that means you were fired for DISHONESTY....

Maybe you havent quite told us all the details..

Hmmm.

[browned out]

Originally Posted by Firedbrowndriver

I am getting unemployment but they are trying to fight it. That's all I need is to pay back that money.

Go after a high profile lawyer; they love to go after the big companies and you usually don't have to pay unless you win.

Don't give up get em

good luck

[ups1990]

Firedbrowndriver, I know this is a serious matter, but the title of this thread craks me up. It reads like it should be on Dateline NBC.
"Tonite on Dateline. I was framed by UPS and was fired at the state level."

With all do respect, my desire is for you to get your situation resolved in a timely matter.

[Firedbrowndriver]

"THE OTHER SIDE" I was actually fired for "delivery and pick-up methods" which is progressive disipline not dishonesty. That was a general term that UPS used to bulid a 7 month case that I had little control over. It was brought to the panel and they let me go.

[bluehdmc]

Originally Posted by Firedbrowndriver

"THE OTHER SIDE" I was actually fired for "delivery and pick-up methods" which is progressive disipline not dishonesty. That was a general term that UPS used to bulid a 7 month case that I had little control over. It was brought to the panel and they let me go.

Unfortunately it's too late now, but as soon as they started the progressive discipline you should have documented all the other stuff, the removal of breaks from you diad, etc. then filed a grievance for harrassment, while this might not have kept you out of their radar it may have been a little proof that you were the target. You could have even said some of the stuff they wrote you up for was in retaliation for filing the grievance.
I was the victim of similar treatment from a previous employer and have learned from that experience. I have seen other people treated this way by ups.

[User Name]

I know if I was in the office everyday or every other day I would change what I was doing for a little bit just to get the heat off. seven months would have opened up my eyes.... JMO

[rocket man]

Originally Posted by ups1990

Firedbrowndriver, I know this is a serious matter, but the title of this thread craks me up. It reads like it should be on Dateline NBC.
"Tonite on Dateline. I was framed by UPS and was fired at the state level."

With all do respect, my desire is for you to get your situation resolved in a timely matter.

bLASTING OFF WITH ME.

[platinum9898]

Originally Posted by Firedbrowndriver

No deadlock at the panel. "Claimaint of the Union Denied" Is what the panel told me as I walked out of the room losing my job.

guess the last thin you can do is just go after ur management personally. wait for them to get out of work have a couple of ur boys go mess them up and rob them for wut eva money they got and get da credit cards fill up u ur friends and family's gas tanks as fast as u can, buy some mcdonalds 6 of everything and mess up their cars. i would help if you live close to connecticut. lol let them do that to me it'll be a wrap for them and i'm in the hartford, ct hub. the best place to catch a em slippen. some of yall might look at this as an awful thing to do but c'mon now if this company can get away with the horrible things they do then this is nothing, why go to court for a year and come out with nothing when you can do this in 10 min. - a week depending on how far you wanna go?

[grgrcr88]

Originally Posted by platinum9898

guess the last thin you can do is just go after ur management personally. wait for them to get out of work have a couple of ur boys go mess them up and rob them for wut eva money they got and get da credit cards fill up u ur friends and family's gas tanks as fast as u can, buy some mcdonalds 6 of everything and mess up their cars. i would help if you live close to connecticut. lol let them do that to me it'll be a wrap for them and i'm in the hartford, ct hub. the best place to catch a em slippen. some of yall might look at this as an awful thing to do but c'mon now if this company can get away with the horrible things they do then this is nothing, why go to court for a year and come out with nothing when you can do this in 10 min. - a week depending on how far you wanna go?

I am certainly glad I dont have to represent you!! You sound like I would have nothing else to do but hear your cases!!

Of course if you act like that at work it won`t be long and you will be looking for a job again!!

[platinum9898]

Originally Posted by grgrcr88

I am certainly glad I dont have to represent you!! You sound like I would have nothing else to do but hear your cases!!

Of course if you act like that at work it won`t be long and you will be looking for a job again!!

lol i only yell my cases to the management all day every day for 4 years now

[UpstateNYUPSer]

Originally Posted by platinum9898

guess the last thin you can do is just go after ur management personally. wait for them to get out of work have a couple of ur boys go mess them up and rob them for wut eva money they got and get da credit cards fill up u ur friends and family's gas tanks as fast as u can, buy some mcdonalds 6 of everything and mess up their cars. i would help if you live close to connecticut. lol let them do that to me it'll be a wrap for them and i'm in the hartford, ct hub. the best place to catch a em slippen. some of yall might look at this as an awful thing to do but c'mon now if this company can get away with the horrible things they do then this is nothing, why go to court for a year and come out with nothing when you can do this in 10 min. - a week depending on how far you wanna go?

I guess we just found the one child left behind.

[fethrs]

Originally Posted by platinum9898

guess the last thin you can do is just go after ur management personally. wait for them to get out of work have a couple of ur boys go mess them up and rob them for wut eva money they got and get da credit cards fill up u ur friends and family's gas tanks as fast as u can, buy some mcdonalds 6 of everything and mess up their cars. i would help if you live close to connecticut. lol let them do that to me it'll be a wrap for them and i'm in the hartford, ct hub. the best place to catch a em slippen. some of yall might look at this as an awful thing to do but c'mon now if this company can get away with the horrible things they do then this is nothing, why go to court for a year and come out with nothing when you can do this in 10 min. - a week depending on how far you wanna go?

Weren't you the one who posted that ups management is mafia? Look at this post, not much different.
Sure wouldn't want to live in your world. Bad advice all around, messing up someone is not the solution, that's just stupid.
What if you got CAUGHT? Then what? No job, no nothing, just jail.
Nice, real nice.

Ps have you ever heard of spell check? You might want to try it.

[cheryl]

platinum9898, we do not tolerate internet tough guys here. You've just earned yourself a permanent place in the moderation queue.