Working through vacations no longer an option - Page 2 - Brown Cafe

SKAGITDRIVER · 10-14-2009, 08:07 PM

out here we can work our vacation if there are no drivers on layoff and they need a body in a truck

dilligaf · 10-16-2009, 08:48 PM

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High IQ,
High heels
and
Miller High Life!!

CFM heels?!?!?!?!?

StopCount · 10-16-2009, 09:32 PM

Working through a scheduled vacation is wrong because people with lower seniority weren't able to bid on that week during vacation selection.

As a side note, I'm a fan of Women in "F*** Me Pumps" ;]

MC4YOU2 · 10-17-2009, 02:03 AM

Here in the west you get 1 option week, to work or take off with pay. If you are forced in on any vacation, it's double time plus vacation pay, so that never happens that I've seen, except once for a funeral. If you agree to come in, no double time. If you work a regular vacation that open's a door for a pay grievance that's a slam dunk for a cover driver that's laid off.

I learned a long time ago, you can always make more money, you can never make more time. Given the choice always try to take the time if at all possible. Your family and body parts will thank you, not to mention a starving cover driver's family that was counting on your vacation.

UpstateNYUPSer · 10-17-2009, 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by StopCount

Working through a scheduled vacation is wrong because people with lower seniority weren't able to bid on that week during vacation selection.

You are exactly right. When I asked my on car I told him that I did not want to displace anyone by working.

Big Babooba · 10-18-2009, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ajblakejr

Damn. I am off that week also.
I thought we could meet in New Orleans!!!
I know you are looking for excuses to avoid me tossing you in the Big Muddy Ole' Black Water!!!

Well you would need that extra money for that trip to New Orleans...you see on Canal Street, there is a Saks Fifth Avenue close to the river...you get my drift $$$$$ ???

I'm on vacation too! I'll meet you on Bourbon Street and bring my beads. I hope that I'll have a lot to be thankful for on Thanksgiving.

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filthpig · 10-19-2009, 05:11 AM

We have lots of people who sell back their vacation. I had to have the money this year so I sold one.

UPSSOCKS · 10-19-2009, 10:57 AM

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I am off the week of Thanksgiving and I thought I might work through my vacation to get a little Christmas $$. I mentioned this to my on-car when I got back to the center tonight and he told me that this is no longer an option. He said that finance has put a stop to this practice, saying that they were not going to pay us twice.

Has anyone else heard this at their center/hub?

I usually don't bash management, but I will make an exception for finance. Finance is so busy doing adjustments and fixing all the mistakes they make on a weekly basis that they won't even know that you are working through your vacation. Even if they do know there is nothing finance can do about it. By the time they get word that you worked it will already be too late and they can't just not pay pay you. I don't know if every finance department is bad but the two districts I've worked in are horrible.

dilligaf · 10-19-2009, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by UPSSOCKS

I usually don't bash management, but I will make an exception for finance. Finance is so busy doing adjustments and fixing all the mistakes they make on a weekly basis that they won't even know that you are working through your vacation. Even if they do know there is nothing finance can do about it. By the time they get word that you worked it will already be too late and they can't just not pay pay you. I don't know if every finance department is bad but the two districts I've worked in are horrible.

Makes no difference at all if finance knows or not. I will! And I can tell you how it is going to go. If it happens that I am not working because there is a senior driver working on vacation there will be a greivance filed. Not only will finance be paying the regular driver vacation and time worked they will be paying me for all the time that regular driver worked while they were supposed to be on vacation.
Even if I did work that week but I got bumped off that rte because of the regular driver I will still file on it.

UPSSOCKS · 10-19-2009, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by dilligaf

Makes no difference at all if finance knows or not. I will! And I can tell you how it is going to go. If it happens that I am not working because there is a senior driver working on vacation there will be a greivance filed. Not only will finance be paying the regular driver vacation and time worked they will be paying me for all the time that regular driver worked while they were supposed to be on vacation.
Even if I did work that week but I got bumped off that rte because of the regular driver I will still file on it.

File away you will lose.

Theichii · 10-19-2009, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by UPSSOCKS

File away you will lose.

But isn't it just fun wasting management's precious time?

UPSSOCKS · 10-20-2009, 05:42 AM

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But isn't it just fun wasting management's precious time?

I have nothing to do anyhow. I like when people waste my time.

Theichii · 10-20-2009, 06:10 AM

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I have nothing to do anyhow. I like when people waste my time.

See Socks, it's funny, because when i think of supervisors, they aren't supposed to do anything, so it seems like they just sit there with hands in their pocket just watching. And i suppose that's what the job description is as a supervisor, just to watch people work. Seems like an easy job, with boredom being the reason supes actually want to work. So personally i wouldn't blame them if a supervisor some of the time actually touched a package. Wow, did i just feel sympathy for management personnel?

dilligaf · 10-20-2009, 07:51 AM

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File away you will lose.

Not!

UPSSOCKS · 10-20-2009, 08:52 AM

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See Socks, it's funny, because when i think of supervisors, they aren't supposed to do anything, so it seems like they just sit there with hands in their pocket just watching. And i suppose that's what the job description is as a supervisor, just to watch people work. Seems like an easy job, with boredom being the reason supes actually want to work. So personally i wouldn't blame them if a supervisor some of the time actually touched a package. Wow, did i just feel sympathy for management personnel?

See I am not a supervisor, if you think their job is boring come see mine. I have to walk to another building just to see the operation.

raceanoncr · 10-20-2009, 12:01 PM

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File away you will lose.

This, right here, is a no-brainer. Dilligaf is right. Dilligaf would win, hands down. It's been tried many times and lost many times by mgmt.

raceanoncr · 10-20-2009, 02:53 PM

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if you think their job is boring come see mine. I have to walk to another building just to see the operation.

HOW do you DO it? That's gotta be extremely taxing!

8up · 10-22-2009, 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by StopCount

Working through a scheduled vacation is wrong because people with lower seniority weren't able to bid on that week during vacation selection.;]

ditto!
where is the protection against this?
getting worked over by a fellow teamster.

grgrcr88 · 10-22-2009, 05:01 AM

Socks can`t remember all the stories he tells, one day he is unloading trailers by himself, the next day he saw some sup unload a trailer by himself, the next day he has to walk to another building to see the operation!!

Keep em comin Socks, I am waiting on the edge of my seat for your next one!!

brownIEman · 10-23-2009, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by raceanoncr

This, right here, is a no-brainer. Dilligaf is right. Dilligaf would win, hands down. It's been tried many times and lost many times by mgmt.

Just out of curiosity, why would she win this? Under what article? Seems getting paid for a more senior driver working, even on vacation, would be counter intuitive?

not disagreeing, just asking...

UpstateNYUPSer · 10-24-2009, 04:53 AM

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Just out of curiosity, why would she win this? Under what article? Seems getting paid for a more senior driver working, even on vacation, would be counter intuitive?

not disagreeing, just asking...

Dilli would have a solid grievance in this case. Any cover or casual driver who is on layoff and has the opportunity to work but is denied because the seniority driver chooses to work through his/her vacation would have the right and basis to file a grievance. My intention when I asked if I could work my vacation was that I not displace anyone in doing so as this would obviously be unfair. I bid the week with the intent of not working and if I were to change my mind after the fact and opt to work and the casual was displaced that casual would have basis for a grievance.

All of this because I simply wanted some extra money for Christmas.

brownIEman · 10-24-2009, 12:30 PM

The funny thing about this situation is it is a great example of a no win scenario for management.

The hourlies who want to work through vacation, will bitch that management did not let them, and management in this company sucks.

Those that see a driver work through vacation will file a grievance, say I can't believe management allowed that, and say management in this company sucks.

The one thing they agree on, management in this company sucks.

nice.

UpstateNYUPSer · 10-24-2009, 12:40 PM

The hourlies who want to work through vacation, will bitch that management did not let them, and management in this company sucks.

Don't recall any bitching on my part. I simply asked my on-car if I could work without displacing anyone and he told me that finance no longer allows hourlies to work through their vacations. I thanked him and will make plans for my vacation.

Those that see a driver work through vacation will file a grievance, say I can't believe management allowed that, and say management in this company sucks.

The grievance will be filed if the driver is allowed to work, especially if it is a prime week, and another driver also wanted to bid that week but it was closed out or if he is allowed to work while there are drivers on layoff.

The one thing they agree on, management in this company sucks.

Management sucks when it allows inconsistencies.