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10-12-2009, 04:03 PM
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#1 | | Senior Member
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I am off the week of Thanksgiving and I thought I might work through my vacation to get a little Christmas $$. I mentioned this to my on-car when I got back to the center tonight and he told me that this is no longer an option. He said that finance has put a stop to this practice, saying that they were not going to pay us twice.
Has anyone else heard this at their center/hub?
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10-12-2009, 04:27 PM
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#2 | | Senior Member
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I think in our hub you can work during your vacation week only if they need drivers and they have exhausted the relief board. makes sense? | 
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10-12-2009, 04:47 PM
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#3 | | Age quod agis
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Originally Posted by UpstateNYUPSer  I am off the week of Thanksgiving and I thought I might work through my vacation to get a little Christmas $$. I mentioned this to my on-car when I got back to the center tonight and he told me that this is no longer an option. He said that finance has put a stop to this practice, saying that they were not going to pay us twice.
Has anyone else heard this at their center/hub? |
Damn. I am off that week also.
I thought we could meet in New Orleans!!!
I know you are looking for excuses to avoid me tossing you in the Big Muddy Ole' Black Water!!!
Well you would need that extra money for that trip to New Orleans...you see on Canal Street, there is a Saks Fifth Avenue close to the river...you get my drift $$$$$ ??? | |
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10-12-2009, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by ajblakejr Damn. I am off that week also.
I thought we could meet in New Orleans!!!
I know you are looking for excuses to avoid me tossing you in the Big Muddy Ole' Black Water!!!
Well you would need that extra money for that trip to New Orleans...you see on Canal Street, there is a Saks Fifth Avenue close to the river...you get my drift $$$$$ ??? |
Hot avatar and high maintenance?
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10-12-2009, 05:13 PM
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#5 | | Age quod agis
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Originally Posted by UpstateNYUPSer Hot avatar and high maintenance? | High IQ,
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10-12-2009, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by UpstateNYUPSer I am off the week of Thanksgiving and I thought I might work through my vacation to get a little Christmas $$. I mentioned this to my on-car when I got back to the center tonight and he told me that this is no longer an option. He said that finance has put a stop to this practice, saying that they were not going to pay us twice.
Has anyone else heard this at their center/hub? | Out here we are not supposed to do that but some do it if the sups are good with it. I don't know the details with the drivers though, but same thing, no work during vaca week. I am not positive but I think this was changed in the last contract in our local. Quote:
Originally Posted by ajblakejr Miller High Life!! | The Champagne of Beers!
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10-12-2009, 05:42 PM
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#7 | | Senior Member
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Last year they stopped drivers at the end of year from working vacations...But this year, I see some drivers doing it...So, if mgt needs you, then you can work...I try not to work on hard earned time off va-ca's... | |
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10-12-2009, 05:57 PM
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#8 | | Man of Great Wisdom
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If it ever was OK it was long ago. We could come in for a day if someone else needed it off but that ended almost 20 years ago.
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10-12-2009, 07:00 PM
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#9 | | Senior Member
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Originally Posted by UpstateNYUPSer I am off the week of Thanksgiving and I thought I might work through my vacation to get a little Christmas $$. I mentioned this to my on-car when I got back to the center tonight and he told me that this is no longer an option. He said that finance has put a stop to this practice, saying that they were not going to pay us twice.
Has anyone else heard this at their center/hub? | We are only allowed to work through our optional week and our five individual optional days. Normal vacation we are required to take. It's been that way in my neck of the woods as long as I've worked for UPS. | |
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10-12-2009, 07:36 PM
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They are happy to let you do it if it helps them out!
A few years ago I offered to work a few days of my vaca since I had nothing planned and we were short drivers at the time. My CM said they couldn't do that because it screwed up payroll and...blah, blah, blah!
A couple years later my on-car called me three times while I was on vaca to see if I wanted to work because they were short drivers!
Rules are made to be broken...if it is to their advantage!
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10-12-2009, 09:38 PM
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#11 | | Senior Member
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The Central Region Supplement states that "Employees (full and part time) may take pay in lieu of time off for option week." | |
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10-12-2009, 11:44 PM
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#12 | | ModSta in Training
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Originally Posted by ol'browneye They are happy to let you do it if it helps them out!
Rules are made to be broken...if it is to their advantage! | That is one of the few nice things about being the "rules maker".
Some people call it double standards. 
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10-13-2009, 02:36 AM
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#13 | | "Hang in there!"
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Working through vacations is common practice here. There are some guys who don't take any of their vacations. Even with guys laid off they are doing this.
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10-13-2009, 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by bubsdad Working through vacations is common practice here. There are some guys who don't take any of their vacations. Even with guys laid off they are doing this. | Thank you for saying that. That would be a huge issue with me if drivers here were working their vacations while we had drivers laid off or bumped inside.
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10-13-2009, 09:55 AM
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#15 | | retired and happy
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Originally Posted by bubsdad Working through vacations is common practice here. There are some guys who don't take any of their vacations. Even with guys laid off they are doing this. | How sorry of life would a person have to have to do this----may as well shoot yourself | |
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10-13-2009, 11:14 AM
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#16 | | Senior Member
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As for me, it's NEVER been an option! I value my days off too much to work during earned days or weeks off.
Just came off 7 1/2 months of disability. Worked one week. Guess what? Next week was VACATION!!!! It couldn't come soon enough!!! Buh, Bye!!! | |
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10-13-2009, 11:17 AM
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#17 | | Wrapped around her finger
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Originally Posted by ajblakejr Damn. I am off that week also.
I thought we could meet in New Orleans!!!
I know you are looking for excuses to avoid me tossing you in the Big Muddy Ole' Black Water!!!
Well you would need that extra money for that trip to New Orleans...you see on Canal Street, there is a Saks Fifth Avenue close to the river...you get my drift $$$$$ ??? | Spent my summers with an aunt in Gretna. I guess I will have to go and take out a loan to buy enough beads.
Montrez-moi le vôtre,je te montrerai le mien!
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10-13-2009, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by brownrodster We are only allowed to work through our optional week and our five individual optional days. Normal vacation we are required to take. It's been that way in my neck of the woods as long as I've worked for UPS. | That is also the case here at Pleasantdale (Georgia)....you must elect those options when you schedule vacations..... however, having said that...management will do whatever suits their needs....as others have said, if they are short drivers and you are willing to work.... they will find a way to code you out in the system to work you and get you paid... | |
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10-13-2009, 06:35 PM
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#19 | | Football is my othr woman
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Originally Posted by grgrcr88 The Central Region Supplement states that "Employees (full and part time) may take pay in lieu of time off for option week." |
Yeah at the beginning of the year when the vacation is selected...... Don't think he selected that.... | |
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10-13-2009, 07:14 PM
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#20 | | ModSta in Training
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Originally Posted by GeorgiaBrown That is also the case here at Pleasantdale (Georgia)....you must elect those options when you schedule vacations..... however, having said that...management will do whatever suits their needs....as others have said, if they are short drivers and you are willing to work.... they will find a way to code you out in the system to work you and get you paid... | As long as IE says so ... they can't make any decisions on their on unless IE approves it.
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10-13-2009, 09:50 PM
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I wanted pizza for lunch today, but IE made me have a chicken wrap.
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10-13-2009, 09:58 PM
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#22 | | LOADED FOR BEAR
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Originally Posted by fethrs Out here we are not supposed to do that but some do it if the sups are good with it. I don't know the details with the drivers though, but same thing, no work during vaca week. I am not positive but I think this was changed in the last contract in our local.
The Champagne of Beers! | It was changed in the National Master and I, for one, am glad that it was changed. It is not right that senior drivers take a rte away from me when they are supposed to be on vacation.  They don't even ask here anymore. It gets filed on the second it happens. Doesn't matter if it is vacation weeks or optional weeks, it is filed on.
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10-14-2009, 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by User Name Yeah at the beginning of the year when the vacation is selected...... Don't think he selected that.... |
Not true, you can work through the option week, you only have to notify at selection time if you want to break up the option week into 5 single days. | |
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10-14-2009, 07:09 PM
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#24 | | Senior Member
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Originally Posted by bubsdad Working through vacations is common practice here. There are some guys who don't take any of their vacations. Even with guys laid off they are doing this. |
If you are a driver that is laid off and someone works through a scheduled vacation, you should file a grievance for all time they work, including overtime. | |
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10-14-2009, 07:19 PM
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#25 | | ModSta in Training
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Originally Posted by grgrcr88 If you are a driver that is laid off and someone works through a scheduled vacation, you should file a grievance for all time they work, including overtime. | Screw that ... just mug 'em. You are a real Teamster aren't you?
Bet that "pay" scab will not work vacation again.
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