2 people shot dead at UPS facility in Toulouse, France

[BLACKBOX]

L-T-P

I think its admirable that you think the world of this guy but you can't take away the fact that he committed premeditated murder. No one in my opinion should be held in high esteem for an unconscionable violent act.

BTW- Do they have the death penalty in France?

[Failure Boy]

Originally Posted by BLACKBOX

Do they have the death penalty in France?

Of course we don't.
Death penalty was abolished in France in 1981, when all other european countries had it already abolished.

I understand the guy was held in high esteem as a good UPS service provider & generally as a good guy...not for ****ing things up & becoming a murderer.

Interesting to hear a side of the story from the inside, from people who knew this guy.

[moreluck]

So you have no deterrent for killing people ?? The killer offs someone and gets fed, clothed, health benefits and taken care of for the rest of his life. That's like an incentive to kill for some losers!!

[UpstateNYUPSer]

Prisons in foreign countries make ours look like country clubs.

[teresarice]

Its very sad are world has come to this to push good people to the point of desaster . ALL IN THE NAME OF MONEY.

[rod]

Originally Posted by UpstateNYUPSer

Prisons in foreign countries make ours look like country clubs.

Some of ours are like country clubs ---- especially for white collar criminals.

[Failure Boy]

Originally Posted by moreluck

So you have no deterrent for killing people ??

The USA seem to have the highest rate of violent death per capita in the Western World.
Seems like killers ain't afraid that much of your death penalty anyway...

Not judging or comparing... Wrong thread.

[UPSviking]

Originally Posted by teresarice

Its very sad are world has come to this to push good people to the point of desaster . ALL IN THE NAME OF MONEY.

Well if the only reason have to be the rules in your contract referring to notice I would say there is a lot of sup´s that should start wearing bullit proof vest´s.....

[browndriverdublin]

hi.
good to read your post. i am a driver in dublin ireland and we sure have the same impossed stress levels over here. about 30 sales leads a week is what is being required as well as doing your opt. load which is 105 stops ex pickups and the threat of unemployment is a constant. it has got to stop especially when sups are always reminding drivers that plenty of other people willing to be employed by ups. we have high unemployment over here but drivers are actually walking out preffering social welfare to the stress and abuse from ups! 3 drivers out on stress leave and a lot of complaints of bullying/harressment against centre manager have been submitted.

[NHDRVR]

Originally Posted by browndriverdublin

hi.
good to read your post. i am a driver in dublin ireland and we sure have the same impossed stress levels over here. about 30 sales leads a week is what is being required as well as doing your opt. load which is 105 stops ex pickups and the threat of unemployment is a constant. it has got to stop especially when sups are always reminding drivers that plenty of other people willing to be employed by ups. we have high unemployment over here but drivers are actually walking out preffering social welfare to the stress and abuse from ups! 3 drivers out on stress leave and a lot of complaints of bullying/harressment against centre manager have been submitted.

30 sales leads a week??

Could you elaborate a bit more? I haven't done 30 sales leads in 20 years... I am too busy delivering