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<blockquote data-quote="bacha29" data-source="post: 5311185" data-attributes="member: 58386">In my younger days I spent more pew time than you likely ever will in your entire life. But, I&#039;m glad I&#039;m out. I could no longer look away from the constant infighting mostly over the question of which church member should be subjected to the church&#039;s strict discipline and who got off. The difference? Money and who gave the most. That along with the constant battle for power . Watching them go proudly into the church carrying their bibles in their hands&nbsp; on a Sunday morning after seeing what they were doing outside the church and who they slept with the night before. In fact one day I delivered to the district office of a major evangelical denomination. The entry level preachers had gathered around the table studying, maps spread sheets and other data. One pointed to apiece of data and a map and said....&quot;we need to target this market&quot;. You see Bud, today&#039;s organized religion is just another economic enterprise. It&#039;s not about the human condition. It&#039;s about market share and revenues. Putting butts in the seats and dollars out of their pockets. And if you don&#039;t know that then you&#039;re just the kind of clueless person they target.As for your single hypothetical example regarding a naked baby. Multiply that by many many thousands of times and you&#039;ve got real life as it pertains to a growing segment of modern day America. And has numerous charities have pointed out growth in the request for charitable services continues to climb as their struggle to keep up continues to increase. If churches in your opinion can solve the problem we wouldn&#039;t need publicly funded children and youth services....Trouble is there&#039;s no sign of that ever happen anytime in the foreseeable future.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="bacha29, post: 5311185, member: 58386"] In my younger days I spent more pew time than you likely ever will in your entire life. But, I'm glad I'm out. I could no longer look away from the constant infighting mostly over the question of which church member should be subjected to the church's strict discipline and who got off. The difference? Money and who gave the most. That along with the constant battle for power . Watching them go proudly into the church carrying their bibles in their hands on a Sunday morning after seeing what they were doing outside the church and who they slept with the night before. In fact one day I delivered to the district office of a major evangelical denomination. The entry level preachers had gathered around the table studying, maps spread sheets and other data. One pointed to apiece of data and a map and said...."we need to target this market". You see Bud, today's organized religion is just another economic enterprise. It's not about the human condition. It's about market share and revenues. Putting butts in the seats and dollars out of their pockets. And if you don't know that then you're just the kind of clueless person they target. As for your single hypothetical example regarding a naked baby. Multiply that by many many thousands of times and you've got real life as it pertains to a growing segment of modern day America. And has numerous charities have pointed out growth in the request for charitable services continues to climb as their struggle to keep up continues to increase. If churches in your opinion can solve the problem we wouldn't need publicly funded children and youth services....Trouble is there's no sign of that ever happen anytime in the foreseeable future. [/QUOTE]

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