10 minutes paid break, 50 minutes unpaid lunch

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by The Driver, Jul 18, 2015.

  1. The Driver

    The Driver I drive.

    In my local, we're entitled to a 10-minute paid break. I always take it. We are also allowed to take up to 50 minutes of unpaid break. We're are more or less mandated to take at least 10 minutes of that 50 minutes. However, we're not mandated to take the full 50 minutes, so I rarely do. I'd like to spend that extra 40 minutes at home. I'm sure the vast majority of other drivers also just take the 10+10 and not the full 50 minutes. Part of me is frustrated that we all just don't take what our union brothers and sisters fought for. Our dispatches would be lower and there would be more routes in, and there's nothing management could do except for put a target on all our backs, which would accomplish little, in my opinion.

    Anyone have this sort of situation in your area?
  2. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Your post contradicts itself. On the one hand you say that we should honoe those who came before us by taking our full lunches and breaks when we are supposed to yet on the other hand you say that you rarely if ever take your full 50 minutes. Which one is it?
  3. The Driver

    The Driver I drive.

    Well, I'm conflicted. Of course it's a contradiction. If my pay was docked because I didn't take that extra 40 minutes of unpaid break, I'd definitely take it. I'm sure the other drivers would, too. Most reasonable people don't want to work for free.

    But seeing that we aren't docked that time we don't take beyond the 10+10... it's hard to build the desire to sit around for those extra 40 minutes when I could be working towards getting off the clock earlier.
  4. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    So stop preaching that "we need to honor...." crap.

    Either you do or you don't.
  5. ManInBrown

    ManInBrown Well-Known Member

    We are required to take a 60 minute unpaid meal here. My favorite hour of the working day:-)
  6. Indecisi0n

    Indecisi0n Well-Known Member

    You should be taking every minute of our lunches within the contracted time. No if and's or buts about it.
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  7. The Driver

    The Driver I drive.

    I never said "we need to honor" in any of my posts. I said that I am conflicted and a little frustrated. Can I not be a little conflicted and still ask a legitimate question about others' experiences?
  8. DOK

    DOK Active Member

    I know this might be unpopular to some, but that's why I like the bonus center I'm in. You can skip lunch to get home early yet still get paid your full dispatched day.
  9. Bubblehead

    Bubblehead My Senior Picture

    ...who or what decides what "your full dispatched day" is?

    ....what happens when the company bastardizes those "#'s"?
  10. DOK

    DOK Active Member

    For some routes the numbers aren't good, low seniority guys get stuck on those.
  11. Mugarolla

    Mugarolla Light 'em up!

    I don't blame you for working 9 hours and getting paid for 10, but the flipside is that the bonus centers had eliminated jobs.

    If you were not on bonus, your center would have to add 1 route for every 10 on bonus. So a 50 route bonus center would have to add 5 routes and 5 employees if you eliminated bonus.

    This is almost the same as people being put out of work due to automation.

    How would you like to lose your job due to, I don't know, autonomous vehicles?

    People don't have a job because you are on bonus.

    It helps you at a price to others. Everybody for themselves, right? Who cares about the other guy.

    This is the attitude as to why I got forced into Teamcare. And I am paying out the butthole.
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  12. Bottom rung

    Bottom rung Active Member

    By taking less break you won't go home earlier. You may at first but ups will see to it that you get more work.
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  13. upschuck

    upschuck Well-Known Member

    Then you take your whole break and file 9/5's.
  14. upschuck

    upschuck Well-Known Member

    What about the guys who like the money and stay out late, they also take jobs away. Nobody says a word about that.
  15. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    You can't force a guy to work less. Hours if ups wants to give it to them.

    Our local says you can force drivers to take their lunch.
  16. upschuck

    upschuck Well-Known Member

    I am just saying the two situations are the same in regards to staffing needs, and no one says anything other than the money they are making. Anything otherwise in ingenuous.
  17. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt

  18. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

  19. upschuck

    upschuck Well-Known Member

    Section (c) states

    Local past practice shall prevail regarding duration of meal and rest periods.
  20. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    You run through your lunch and you're wrong. I would expect no less from you.