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Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by East coast navy, Nov 10, 2013.

  1. East coast navy

    East coast navy Veteran

    More new language.

    Improved loss of license language.

    Improved driver transfer language.

    Improved drivers forced to layoff language.

    Improved feeder seniority rights by adding job security language.

    Option to use option week into personal days.

    Better healthcare then CS.

    Pension raise that will allow better bid jobs and better vacation picks for workers.

    Concessions won here.

    A yes vote is in order.
  2. Wally

    Wally Hailing from Parts Unknown.

    How much of our raise had to be moved into the healthcare plan?
  3. East coast navy

    East coast navy Veteran

  4. JackStraw

    JackStraw Active Member

    How much from our pension is going to the new healthcare?
  5. East coast navy

    East coast navy Veteran

    I believe it was a $2.50 split and now it's $4.00 raise into healthcare and $1 raise into pension off a 40 hour week.
  6. Anonymous 10

    Anonymous 10 Guest

    Don't bother explaining to these people. They won't like it no matter what.
  7. Bubblehead

    Bubblehead My Senior Picture

    I love it!!!
    Would they gotten any of these "enhancements" had they voted yes the first time?
  8. The Milkman

    The Milkman Well-Known Member

    Better and more costly for Retirees like myself? Or more costly and less benefits compared to what I have had for the last 6 years? Just wondering because I have heard alot of this and that concerning retirees.
  9. East coast navy

    East coast navy Veteran

    Your right. I voted yes and I was out numbered and we got more. The only differences is I'm pushing harder to get more yes votes. Because if it gets voted down a second time NNC will get involved.

    That's not what we need.
  10. Anonymous 10

    Anonymous 10 Guest

    Our benefits were getting enhanced the first time. They just didn't have the particulars. I knew this as I had said. Yours are the same as the were going to be now.
  11. Stonefish

    Stonefish Well-Known Member

    ike you said don't explain it to him he won't listen. I bet he does in December
  12. rpoz11

    rpoz11 Member

    If this is true,
    Then as from someone from the WC,
    Will ya'll step up and help us lock down this HC Plan beyond 2018?!!!
  13. opie

    opie Member

    Nothing much done for part timers. Option week into personal days? *yawn* Only thing I like is reduced time restriction for part time employees who fail to qualify for full time positions from 1 year to 6 months. But only for the first time, thereafter it's 9 months I believe. Nothing on creating or at least maintaining FT jobs, particularly 22.3's.
  14. love brown 1972

    love brown 1972 New Member

    Part timers are getting screwed big time in New Jersey minimum wage is going up to $8.25 an hour starting rate at ups is going to $10.00 an hour the average part timer works 18 to 20 hours per week that's about $180.00 bucks a week after taxes about $160.00 per week minus about $ 20.00 - $25.00 for gas per week minus car expenses tires,oil chances etc,etc minus union dues that will leave you with an average of about $100.00 to $110.00 for yourself for a back breaking job not worth it deliver pizza on a Friday night at your local pizzeria or dominos for about 7hours and make $100.00 to $110.00 on tips 1 day 7 hours a week.If UPS doesn't chance this soon no one will want to work for them part time or at least no one good and responsible.For a job as hard as this back bracking job the starting salary should be no less than $ 12.00 to $ 13.00 an hour.I started at UPS about 3 months ago for insurance and benefits only I am self employed for about 12 years now and I notice how much trash they hire people that don't give a dam there late every day lazy I work with one guy that's late 3 to 4 times a week 15 to 20 minutes a day not to mentioned the people that quick within the first couple of months.If UPS doesn't change there policy soon (starting pay) there part time help will get worse and worse.
  15. Wally

    Wally Hailing from Parts Unknown.

    How much would those insurance benefits cost if you had to pay for them yourself?
  16. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt Dark Prince of Double Standards Staff Member

    Have you looked at the Platinum Obamacare prices?
    Holy cow!

    Of course, 95% plus of part-timers don't have any need for insurance.
  17. The Milkman

    The Milkman Well-Known Member

    Most people would quit before they kick in. Brown Puto so right...After all is said and done you cant pay for your gas or food with your medical card if you hang around long enough to get one.
  18. love brown 1972

    love brown 1972 New Member

    Wally - I am paying about $1400.00 a month for a decent policy for myself and my family.For me or anyone else who does it just for the insurance it's worth it but most part timers young kids don't have a family could care less about insurance. This will be a big problem going forward for UPS if nothing is done.For what I understand the starting pay today is the same as it was 15 to 20 years ago plus back them you only had to wait 30 days for insurance to kick in.Today not only is the starting pay the same but you have to wait 1 year for yourself and 18 months for your family so in reality part timers are making less today then they were 15 years ago (this makes no sense).I can't believe part timers and the union allowed this to happen along the years.
  19. love brown 1972

    love brown 1972 New Member

    By the way starting pay for part timers is really not going up a $1.50 like they say,the union and ups is just trying to paint a pretty picture and we fools fall for it.
    Starting pay now $8.50 after 90 days $1.00 raise taking you to $9.50
    starting pay with new contract $10.00 after 90 days $0.00 raise taking you to $10.00
    So after 90 days you will now make .50 cents more per/hour then you did with last contract and 15 years ago.
    ​UPS does not take care of its part timers
  20. bbsam

    bbsam Moderator Staff Member

    Holy crap! I started at UPS 25 years ago making $8/hr. All things considered it's gotten alot.worse.