2018 UPS 9.5 hour per day per route standard
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OLDMAN3
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Voted no because it sounds like you are asking if the "standard" day should be change from the current 8 hours to 9.5 hours.
An 8 hour day is the protected minimum per contractual language
We should have ( negotiated ) language that places us ALL in the 9.5 catagory from the start of the year. Then, on a separate list, there should be a sign up list for those that want extra overtime.
The US postal service does this and it works out just fine.
This way, there would be NO grievances for excessive overtime. The company would have to plan for all routes to be 9.5 unless exempted by the driver himself who would sign up for overtime without restrictions.
Those that want it, can have it. Those that want to go home to their families and take care of their bodies over a 25 year career can do so. There would never be any arguments.
Right now, UPS is working everyone up to 13 hours. I worked on monday until 10pm in package this week. They didnt care. My first day back in package after being in feeder all year.
We go back to feeder next week and believe me, 12 hours in feeder is NOTHING like 8 hours in package.
TOS.
The US postal service does this and it works out just fine.
This way, there would be NO grievances for excessive overtime. The company would have to plan for all routes to be 9.5 unless exempted by the driver himself who would sign up for overtime without restrictions.
Those that want it, can have it. Those that want to go home to their families and take care of their bodies over a 25 year career can do so. There would never be any arguments.
Right now, UPS is working everyone up to 13 hours. I worked on monday until 10pm in package this week. They didnt care. My first day back in package after being in feeder all year.
We go back to feeder next week and believe me, 12 hours in feeder is NOTHING like 8 hours in package.
TOS.
BrownTexas
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Ups rather have the fight and keep you frustrated about being over dispatched.
brownmonster
Man of Great Wisdom
I don't want my route to plan 9.5. Why would I want to work that late? 42 hours on the clock last week.
jumpman23
Oh Yeah
Ive been saying it for years have 2 driver shifts. 1 shift gets done early and 2nd shift runs a lot of airs, bulk, and a lot of pickups. 2nd shift would be younger guys and or guys that wanted a lot of ot. Get rid of the loaders, let drivers load their own trucks to cut down on poopy loads ad misleads and just have part time guys on the unload. My father in law even said it the other night at dinner" You guys schedule and getting home that late is just ridiculous" Ditto dude, it is stupid as hell lol.
beentheredonethat
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There are some pros with this and some cons. In areas far from center where drivers take an hour to get on area, you now would have 4 total hours just driving to and from on area with two shifts. (2 hours for each of two drivers). I would think there is some benefit to designating areas that are close to building be a low plan paid day area. Thereby having more driver routes. Areas that are far away from building would be planned out as having a higher paid day. IN that way, a driver who wants more hours bid on the routes that are designated as a higher paid day route. Drivers who want less hours bid on routes that have a designated lower paid day. (I'm from area of country where we bid each year -- I realize other areas are different). I think having a few driver runs in the early AM for air delivery as well as extra driver runs for bulk ground pickup make a lot of sense. The AM drivers would allow the regular drivers to break trace less often, the PM drivers would allow the local sort to start up with enough work to keep them busy. The main goal should be to have a reasonable paid day during majority of year and then be able to increase it during peak. I think most people would agree it's reasonable to work long days for the 4-5 weeks prior to Christmas. However, it is not realistic to work 10+ hours per day for 52 weeks a year. (Or even over 9.5 hours each day of the year).
jumpman23
Oh Yeah
Totally agree with ya
CHALLY9TX
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Regional Addendum's and Regional Supplemental language across the country obviously will differ based upon the operational demands accordingly. This can be addressed in that manner.
8-Hour work days exist daily in areas where that occurs.
In other Regional areas across the country, those workers face more deliveries and volume density.
8-Hour work days exist daily in areas where that occurs.
In other Regional areas across the country, those workers face more deliveries and volume density.
My suggestion is directly at 8-9.5 hour work days for full time employees.
Again, 8 hour per day , 40 hour per week guaranty is there.
For those who are forced to work past that 40 hour week and past 8 hours per day, then with this language the company will not work the full time employee past 9.5 hours per day.
Unless that person , as suggested by TOS, signs up and or volunteers for extra work.
Extra work is offered daily in my area.
Again, 8 hour per day , 40 hour per week guaranty is there.
For those who are forced to work past that 40 hour week and past 8 hours per day, then with this language the company will not work the full time employee past 9.5 hours per day.
Unless that person , as suggested by TOS, signs up and or volunteers for extra work.
Extra work is offered daily in my area.
TOS,
what are your thoughts on how this 9.5 language would work in the feeder operation?
Ron Carey lives on
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I think everyone will have all the hours they want in Nov and Dec
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