22.4s family lives Don't matter.

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by browned out, Aug 4, 2018.

  1. browned out

    browned out Well-Known Member

    The Union is not being forthright. We are not all stupid here. But some are naive due to not being informed. Part-timers should be explicitly informed of the fact that if they go 22.4 full time; they will have no OT protection and have to work up to 60 hours or more per week. UPS stating that they care about employees family time is disingenuous at best. This Contract only increases excessive OT. How can UPS and the Teamsters give no OT protections to at least 25% of the full time employees FOR 5 YEARS - Indefinitely?

    If 22.4s were allowed to be on the 9.5 list; they still could be forced to be at work for 11 hours due to the possible 1 and half hour wait between shifts. WITH NO 9.5 PROTECTIONS; 22.4S COULD BE FORCED TO BE AT UPS FOR 15 AND A HALF HOURS IN ONE DAY IF THEY HAVE THE HOUR AND A HALF SPLIT IN BETWEEN THEIR SHIFT.

    AND THEN THERE IS THIS FROM THE DOT: May the driver of a property-carrying vehicle be on duty for more than 14 hours? Yes. A driver can continue to work beyond the end of the 14th hour of the day, but may not drive a commercial motor vehicle (unless using one of the 16-hour exceptions). The additional on-duty time will reduce on-duty time available under the 60/70-hour time limit.

    22.4s deserve the right to spend time with their families. 9.5 PROTECTION FOR ALL.. IF UPS TRULY CARED ABOUT FAMILY TIME; WHY NOT OFFER ALL OT ON A VOLUNTARY BASIS? AND FORCE OT IN REVERSE? IS IT THAT THE 22.4S FAMILIES DO NOT MATTER?
     
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  2. He would still have to be off 10 hours before he started his next shift of it included driving.
     
  3. LagunaBrown

    LagunaBrown Well-Known Member

    and double time over 60 hours.
     
  4. Over 60 isn't an easy week.
     
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  5. LagunaBrown

    LagunaBrown Well-Known Member

    Some part timers are working two jobs for less money and commuting equaling 60 hours. There are plenty of people that are going to take that job trust me. We have had two tier drivers since 1997 and the positions are always filled by someone that needs the money for their family.
     
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  6. 60 hours is a lot when you are driving. When you work that many hours it's hard to focus on the task at hand .
     
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  7. browned out

    browned out Well-Known Member

    Why not offer OT on a voluntary basis?
     
  8. LagunaBrown

    LagunaBrown Well-Known Member

    There are Fedex ground guys doing it for $15 bucks and hour with crappy healthcare and no pension. There will be no shortage of UPS part timers applying for that 22.4 job at $30 dollars an hour, $12 dollars an hour to pension and accruing full time progression.
     
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    Last edited: Aug 4, 2018
  9. Not my fault they don't have a union.
     
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  10. reginald95

    reginald95 Active Member

    There are plenty of jobs out there where you hardly see you’re family. You either quit, don’t apply for the job, get educated and get a proffesion in that field or just be a man and work hard to provide for your family in the hopes your offspring will fare better than you.
     
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  11. llamainmypocket

    llamainmypocket Active Member

    14 hours is punch to punch. Also, as someone pointed out you still need a 10 hour reset. Combo jobs from twilight could work more than 14 hours but they couldn't drive the next day.

    Still it is going to suck if they just won't let us go home. 3:30 am to 5pm is no way to work.
     
  12. 1989

    1989 Well-Known Member

    60 hours a week for 40 weeks will more than max out your pension. Then take 12 weeks family leave.
     
  13. Pension is based on straight hours
     
  14. 1989

    1989 Well-Known Member

    Compensated hours here.
     
  15. LagunaBrown

    LagunaBrown Well-Known Member

    no wonder your voting no
     
  16. LagunaBrown

    LagunaBrown Well-Known Member

    Same here (one more reason to lovethe southwest rider)
     
  17. 1989

    1989 Well-Known Member

    That is so 2001
     
  18. LagunaBrown

    LagunaBrown Well-Known Member

    Do you get a 8 hour 5 consecutive day guarantee?
     
  19. Absolutely I do . Not a part timer like you
     
  20. LagunaBrown

    LagunaBrown Well-Known Member

    Sorry buddy, part time feeder drivers are in the new England Supplements not ours.