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Message: <blockquote data-quote="newfie" data-source="post: 4508370" data-attributes="member: 58700">looked like it to me , looked like he was able to move his head around too which would seem to indicate he was not pinned to the ground. If he's not pinned hes not being choked. I do think the cops stayed on him too long. They should have gotten off of him when they saw he was getting quiet. I honestly dont think the guy was suffocated I do believe he had some kind of medical emergency. its interesting when you watch video one you can even hear his buddy chewing him out for resisting when the cops had tried to  put him in the car. thats the part I want to see. How does a guy thats handcuffed fight off 4 cops for 10 minutes and end up on the other side of the car.</blockquote>