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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 805808" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>Agreed and thus why in my response to Tourist I said the following:</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>The GPS and privacy issue being one part of that can of worms. The telematics devices in the package cars that so many drivers are concerned with are not just found in package car but all cars after a certain date of manufacture. The only question left is if and how anyone wants to access that data and is that data obtained in real time or at a later date and by who and how? As I said, can of worms and not easy.</p><p> </p><p>AV also made some good points about the money, who controls and in what manner it's distributed. You mentioned the small car user and it's impact on roads and some claim those high mileage cars aren't paying their fair share but I wonder at some point if the very opposite is true. Same thing said of more rural states who have less traffic and even less heavy weight traffic, are they overpaying into States who have both heavy traffic in both volume and weight?</p><p> </p><p>Not totally on the subject but since we are discussing cars, philosopher and noted critic of institutionalism Ivan Illich once did a study of cars in society as a whole and he took all things that go into a car and gave it a time value. Like how much time total in going to and from work and then the work on the job goes into purchasing and maintaining a car. Lost time from accidents and then the labor to pay for those costs. All these elements, all the known factors he could think of went into his formula so as to arrive at an average speed that we travel in our cars. The total?</p><p> </p><p>3.7 miles per hour.</p><p> </p><p>Makes one ask the question, just what in the "friend" are we doing with our lives?</p><p><img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/happy-very.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":happy-very:" title="Happy Very :happy-very:" data-shortname=":happy-very:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 805808, member: 2189"] Agreed and thus why in my response to Tourist I said the following: The GPS and privacy issue being one part of that can of worms. The telematics devices in the package cars that so many drivers are concerned with are not just found in package car but all cars after a certain date of manufacture. The only question left is if and how anyone wants to access that data and is that data obtained in real time or at a later date and by who and how? As I said, can of worms and not easy. AV also made some good points about the money, who controls and in what manner it's distributed. You mentioned the small car user and it's impact on roads and some claim those high mileage cars aren't paying their fair share but I wonder at some point if the very opposite is true. Same thing said of more rural states who have less traffic and even less heavy weight traffic, are they overpaying into States who have both heavy traffic in both volume and weight? Not totally on the subject but since we are discussing cars, philosopher and noted critic of institutionalism Ivan Illich once did a study of cars in society as a whole and he took all things that go into a car and gave it a time value. Like how much time total in going to and from work and then the work on the job goes into purchasing and maintaining a car. Lost time from accidents and then the labor to pay for those costs. All these elements, all the known factors he could think of went into his formula so as to arrive at an average speed that we travel in our cars. The total? 3.7 miles per hour. Makes one ask the question, just what in the "friend" are we doing with our lives? :happy-very: [/QUOTE]
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